simoncccccc Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 My Best Guess at JV's Thinking: JV is very happy right now - playing brilliantly in a successful team, breaking records and representing his country. He also feels loyal to LCFC, who gave him his big break. However, he's almost 29, and knows that realistically he has around 4 years before things start to slow down. He's aware that 'bigger clubs' are sniffing around, and if he moves he could get a contract that would give him financial security for the rest of his life, along with Champions League football. The big question going through his mind in not 'Should I move?', but 'When should I move?'. His biggest fear is that the goals dry up and 'bigger clubs' lose interest. He's decided to stay in January, but he'll expect a much improved contract from LCFC (doubling his money from say £40,000pw to say £80,000pw). He's 90% certain he'll leave in the summer, when he'll be open to offers, and he's confident that LCFC won't stand in his way. What's your perception?
ramboacdc Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 there isn't any proof anyone is sniffing around, only media speculation. if some big team wants him they know now his price tag is possibly too high to even consider.
Focks Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 It's a very tough decision, I doubt he will be any happier at another club, but when you finally retire you'd want to be able to say that you played for Man U / Liverpool / Chelsea etc
Dan Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Vardy would be a mug to leave Leicester. The only thing that would improve is his pay check, and even then I think we'd be well up for paying him big money.
Captain... Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 He knows better than anyone how much he struggled to adapt to life at Leicester, life in the Championship, life in the Premiership, for England. He doesn't have a lot of time left of his career, he can't afford a season to adjust to a new team, possibly even a new league if you believe some rumours, he would be better off staying here and earning a shed load of money, maybe he can earn more elsewhere, but he is still earning an absolute fortune. If he stays here and builds on his reputation he will always have an option of a final pay day in the MLS or something, he will also develop his relationship with the club who will look after him should he want to go into coaching or other roles. If he was younger, I would expect him to be tempted by a shot at a bigger club or more money, but he could end up throwing it all away very quickly, look at Lloyd Dyer.
Dan Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 It's a very tough decision, I doubt he will be any happier at another club, but when you finally retire you'd want to be able to say that you played for Man U / Liverpool / Chelsea etc Might be just me but I'd have more pride in saying I was one of the key men in getting a completely unfancied team into Europe, rather than warming Chelsea's bench. There are absolutely no winners if Vardy leaves Leicester.
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Problem for people Vards is that we play to his strengths by playing a swift game, however those other clubs would want him to adapt to their style I'd have thought
shade Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 i know people 'live up' to how much money they earn, and that's fair enough, but surely a contract on £40,000 a week for say 4 years should set you up for life? by my reckoning, £40,000 would give you approx £2,000,000 a year, multiplied by 4 is £8,000,000. divide that by two for tax and what not and you're clearing £4,000,000. factor that over 50 years and without investing or making any more money you could take £80,000 a year. that's based on a paltry £40,000 a week contract.
Captain... Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Problem for people Vards is that we play to his strengths by playing a swift game, however those other clubs would want him to adapt to their style I'd have thought Vardy would have loved some of those balls played into Sturridge last night, Arsenal have laid plenty on a plate for Walcott over the years, Spurs reputedly cover more ground than any other team with a high energy high pressing game. He could fit into any of those sides, but they have better/younger/more rounded players in that role already. The problem is most of these teams play with one up front, and that isn't Vardy's strength, he needs others around him to help create the space exploit, he isn't as good as Aguero or Sturridge or even Kane and Costa at holding the ball up and bringing his team mates into play, in part this is why we concede so much possession, once you get the ball to Vardy within 10 seconds the attack is over, often with a goal, but it is a singlemindness in his approach that wouldn't work for other clubs/managers.
Richmondfox Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Do you write for the Sunday Supplement with that level of baseless speculation? The club don't have to double his wages as he already gets paid well and has two years left on his contract, maybe he'll have a goal bonus renegotiated. Clubs wont overpay for him, If he tries to force a move and play up he can rot in the reserves. He doesn't seem like that as he knows the struggles he's had and is playing the best football of his life. Whatever we would get for Vardy wouldn't make any difference to the owners war chest but we would have to pay over the odds to buy a big name striker in to fill the void left by JV. Maybe he should have a sit down with Loic Remy to talk about his big move to Chelsea. None of the big clubs would sign Jamie as their answer for the champions League as they don't play to his strength, Man Utd and Chelsea aren't using the players they have effectively as it is, he'd get a cup/ Europa League run/10 min sub in the Prem. I think he'll stay and only play for us in the prem. He'll go to the states on a free in two/three years time. He can be a star and club legend here or move to a big club under a weight of expectation he'll never meet and barely play.
stripeyfox Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Baseless speculation. There is no dilemma for Vardy until such time as a club makes an offer which meets Leicester's valuation (who knows what that would be). At that point, and only then, will there be a dilemma which will be the same as any "normal" person when faced with changing jobs. Do I stay with the company I know or move with all the risks/rewards involved. There are a multitude of things for anyone to consider depending on who is making the offer. But at the moment, there is no dilemma.
Gerard Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Might be just me but I'd have more pride in saying I was one of the key men in getting a completely unfancied team into Europe, rather than warming Chelsea's bench. There are absolutely no winners if Vardy leaves Leicester. Our whole team is set up to Vardy getting goals, as a striker you can't ask for better conditions than that. A lot of his goals are similar and play to his strengths, he gets to use his pace as a ball is slotted into him and he inevitably scores. If he went to another club he may get less game time and less opportunities as his new team generally play in front of their opponents rather than trying to break their lines quickly like we do at Leicester. I think he will stay as we will want more money for him than anyone else is willing to pay and with 2 years left on his contract and Vardy six months away from his 30th birthday this summer the club are in a strong position. If he score 25 goals this season I can see a new contract in the summer for £80-100k a week if he signs a new 3-4 year deal.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 I think the fact that he relatively late in his career will encourage him to make the move, rather than dissuade him. Depends how ambitious he is / how much of a legacy he wants really, wouldn't hold it against him but I hope he does realise how good he has it here and stays!
Gerard Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 i know people 'live up' to how much money they earn, and that's fair enough, but surely a contract on £40,000 a week for say 4 years should set you up for life? by my reckoning, £40,000 would give you approx £2,000,000 a year, multiplied by 4 is £8,000,000. divide that by two for tax and what not and you're clearing £4,000,000. factor that over 50 years and without investing or making any more money you could take £80,000 a year. that's based on a paltry £40,000 a week contract. That might sound great for you but for someone like Vardy it might not be enough to maintain his current lifestyle. Spend £2.5m on a house and cars and that £1.5m soon whittles away before he's 40 and then he has to downgrade his house, car and lifestyle. As wealth goes Vardy is only starting his career and he'll want to earn as much money in the next few years as he can and who can blame him?
Captain... Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 That might sound great for you but for someone like Vardy it might not be enough to maintain his current lifestyle. Spend £2.5m on a house and cars and that £1.5m soon whittles away before he's 40 and then he has to downgrade his house, car and lifestyle. As wealth goes Vardy is only starting his career and he'll want to earn as much money in the next few years as he can and who can blame him? You're confusing Vardy with someone who has been groomed for football success, and had it on a plate for the last 15 years. Vardy will know and appreciate the value of money better than Danny Simpson for example, who has been earning an obscene amount of money for years now, rocking up to his community service in a Lamborghini, he has come into money a little later in life than most of his colleagues and so will be more sensible with it, rather than spunk it up the walls.
Rocket-Ron Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 It's a very tough decision, I doubt he will be any happier at another club, but when you finally retire you'd want to be able to say that you played for Man U / Liverpool / Chelsea etc he can say that he has scored in 11 (and hopefully counting) consecutive games. No other premiership player can say that (yet). Not a bad thing to look back on when you retire
Len Finsbury Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Vardy has no real ties to Leicester other than the employers that gave him a chance, but how many of us are still with the company that did that for us? There are pros and cons against moving to a larger club. Only he knows what he wants from his career, perhaps he wants a more spectacular ending to his story which includes a top European side. I do wonder how much emphasis we put on players wanting to play every week when they're on really large contracts. Even if he did sign for one of these clubs, he will always be able to say he played for them. Sometimes having pride in your success is the most important thing you can have. Financially, we'll be able to match anything he can get elsewhere so I don't think that'll be an issue. If he did want to increase his income, he needs to strike while the iron's hot and start merchandising his V9 gear or whatever he calls it. Endorsements from sports companies is quite lucrative, I believe. He's in a good place really. Everyone wants to be wanted, whether it's by us to stay or other clubs to join them. He'll end up doing whatever he feels is best for his career and his future and good luck to him, he deserves it. I bet he wished he was 5 years younger, but then don't we all?
stripeyfox Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Why would he move? He said he's happy end of.Why would he say anything else? At the moment, he's "happy" and doing well. But if a "big" club came in for him, he'd be mad not to think about it. There's no real reason to assume he'd be loyal to us and just because he could end up like another Ricky Lambert doesn't mean that in his own mind he will believe that he could replicate his form at another club.I think the asking price will be the biggest obstacle to him leaving, but if someone comes in with £20M or whatever than I think he'd be off. He's almost 29 - it's now or never... (hypothetically, of course)
Gerard Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 You're confusing Vardy with someone who has been groomed for football success, and had it on a plate for the last 15 years. Vardy will know and appreciate the value of money better than Danny Simpson for example, who has been earning an obscene amount of money for years now, rocking up to his community service in a Lamborghini, he has come into money a little later in life than most of his colleagues and so will be more sensible with it, rather than spunk it up the walls. No matter what age you are you soon get used to the money you earn. He will want the nice house, cars, holidays, lifestyle, etc.
stripeyfox Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 No matter what age you are you soon get used to the money you earn. He will want the nice house, cars, holidays, lifestyle, etc. Especially if you've got "WAG" spending it like it's going out of fashion...
richardsfoxes Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 If a big club comes in for him, he's gone in my opinion, not only will he want to go but if they are offering 20M + we cant reject that, you only have to look at southampton to see the power of the big clubs compared to clubs like us and southampton. Chance of 3x his wages, champions league, chance of winning something etc etc.
Langley Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 Why would he say anything else? At the moment, he's "happy" and doing well. But if a "big" club came in for him, he'd be mad not to think about it. There's no real reason to assume he'd be loyal to us and just because he could end up like another Ricky Lambert doesn't mean that in his own mind he will believe that he could replicate his form at another club. I think the asking price will be the biggest obstacle to him leaving, but if someone comes in with £20M or whatever than I think he'd be off. He's almost 29 - it's now or never... (hypothetically, of course) I don't buy this big club nonsense. Huddersfield were a big club. So were Wolves, Preston and Burnley. Who cares what you can say in twenty, thirty years time that you played for Liverpool or Manchester United. Liverpool haven't won the league in years. Man United are only up there because they send everyone to sleep and get the odd goal. We're playing the most exciting football in our history with the best team I've ever seen. Where would he fit in? Nowhere plays his style.
stripeyfox Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 I don't buy this big club nonsense. Huddersfield were a big club. So were Wolves, Preston and Burnley. Who cares what you can say in twenty, thirty years time that you played for Liverpool or Manchester United. Liverpool haven't won the league in years. Man United are only up there because they send everyone to sleep and get the odd goal. We're playing the most exciting football in our history with the best team I've ever seen. Where would he fit in? Nowhere plays his style. I see where you're coming from which is why I described a "big" club in inverted commas. It is a subjective term, and as you say, the big clubs change over time. But if one of the current "big" clubs - I guess you'd say Arsenal, Man United, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham would have enough "pull" to turn Vardy's head - came in then I think he'd go. Whether he would fit into their plans is another matter of course.
CharlieCharles Posted 3 December 2015 Posted 3 December 2015 If he was to go he would have to leave now as 28 is classed as your peak. Although i dont think he will go, not when we are doing as well as we are. Id imagine clubs are more interested in Mahrez, 24 years old. 7 goals, 5 assists.
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