Guest MattP Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 Re Jess Phillips on Question Time with her Cologne/Broad Street comparison. Over 800 women reported sex assaults in one night in Cologne. Five reported sex assaults in Brum's Broad Street in 12 weeks.
Wymsey Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 10,000+ migrant children missing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35453589
Thracian Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 I am "anyone" Matt. As regards the Swedish story maybe they are doing it because it would just be used as a cane for the migrants . As a Birmingham mp said in the papers this morning - rapes like in Germany on news years eve happen every day in Birmingham. It's not the migrant's in particular that are the problem - it's men! I'm sure you've seen that social experiment in the US repeated in Europe where a person pretends to be a drunk attractive woman who is lost and every man just tries to get her in the sack. No-one helps her because she is lost (or drunk). I've just heard horrific stories about an attack on a train in Birmingham and about a subsequent rape in the same area. Though it's hard to know an immigrant from an incomer, the culprits were described as migrants to me, and by someone who supposedly knew the girl (on the train) who was involved. As for "men" being the problem I'd have no second thoughts shutting the gates on any of them who didn't have provenly good and verifiable reason for coming here. It would perhaps give women a chance to grow up or live in a safer environment than would otherwise be the case. But it won't happen. Labour would sell their souls for votes and Cameron doesn't want out of the EU at any price. He just bullshits on the subject.
Thracian Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 10,000+ migrant children missing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35453589 What a commentary on the greed and opportunistic evil of men. And to think there are similarly evil people sneaking through our borders every day. We must be communally insane.
Nick Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 What a commentary on the greed and opportunistic evil of men. And to think there are similarly evil people sneaking through our borders every day to set up their own trafficking organisations, to peddle their drugs, to undermine our country and to villify our women. We must be communally insane. Thread title states troll free?
Thracian Posted 31 January 2016 Posted 31 January 2016 Re Jess Phillips on Question Time with her Cologne/Broad Street comparison. Over 800 women reported sex assaults in one night in Cologne. Five reported sex assaults in Brum's Broad Street in 12 weeks. And how many not reported? Lots.
Rincewind Posted 1 February 2016 Posted 1 February 2016 As always Thracian is right. Crimes are not reported all over the world. At a higher or lower rate depending on the country, situation, severity and who commits the crime..They are reported on the need to know basis and it is those in charge that decides who needs to know what. The general public are at the bottom of the need to know ladder. I agree with everybody and disagree with all.
davieG Posted 1 February 2016 Posted 1 February 2016 I can't believe 21% of the UK are Muslim. Forget it, I've worked out what they mean now. Number of Muslims living in Leicester rises to 20% of population By Barry_Cooper1 | Posted: February 01, 2016 The stats show that there are more than three million Muslims in the UK Comments (0)The number of Muslims living in Leicester has risen to 20 per cent, according to figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), with the overall figure in the UK topping three million for the first time. Leicester ranks above Manchester (18 per cent), but below the likes of Blackburn (29 per cent), Slough (26 per cent), Luton (25.7 per cent) while the total is 23 per cent in Birmingham. In East London, the picture is somewhat different, with 45.6 per cent of the population reporting to be Muslim. Over the course of the last ten years, numbers have doubled thanks to higher birth rates and rising immigration based on the data published this week. The report from the ONS revealed that in London, almost half the population are Muslim and if things continue as they are, that area could be predominantly Islamic within the next few years. In Leicester, the most recent census which was carried out in 2011, showed that 19 per cent of the city's community were Muslim and it's expected that when the next survey is due in 2021, that figure will have increased in-line with the latest ONS figures and continued immigration and birth rates. More than half the three million Muslims that are currently living in Britain, were born away from these shores, with one in four children under ten years of age also being born abroad. Speaking to the Mail on Sunday, Lord Green of Deddington, a former diplomat and current chair of Migration Watch UK said: “This is clear evidence of the way in which mass immigration is rapidly changing the nature of our society. “The Home Secretary was right in her conference speech to point to the potential pressures on social cohesion." The stats revealed that there are currently 3,114,992 Muslims living in the UK of which 1,554022 born outside of the country making up 5.4 per cent of England and Wales' population. As part of the 2011 census, findings based on data supplied by the public showed that white Britons were in the minority in Leicester for the first time, with more than 50 per cent claiming to be either foreign or from an ethnic minority. Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Number-Muslims-reaches-million-Britain-time/story-28646856-detail/story.html#ixzz3yvYTt5dv Follow us: @@leicester_Merc on Twitter | leicestermercury on Facebook
Webbo Posted 1 February 2016 Posted 1 February 2016 As always Thracian is right. Crimes are not reported all over the world. At a higher or lower rate depending on the country, situation, severity and who commits the crime..They are reported on the need to know basis and it is those in charge that decides who needs to know what. The general public are at the bottom of the need to know ladder. I agree with everybody and disagree with all. Just so we know you're not just spouting bollox for the sake of it can you explain your point and where you stand in this debate?
Stadt Posted 1 February 2016 Posted 1 February 2016 Comments (0)The number of Muslims living in Leicester has risen to 20 per cent, according to figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), with the overall figure in the UK topping three million for the first time. Leicester ranks above Manchester (18 per cent), but below the likes of Blackburn (29 per cent), Slough (26 per cent), Luton (25.7 per cent) while the total is 23 per cent in Birmingham. In East London, the picture is somewhat different, with 45.6 per cent of the population reporting to be Muslim. Over the course of the last ten years, numbers have doubled thanks to higher birth rates and rising immigration based on the data published this week. That's more alarming than immigration
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 Just so we know you're not just spouting bollox for the sake of it can you explain your point and where you stand in this debate? Easy. I ask the same.Do you think all crimes are reported across the world? Do yo think the reporting of said crimes depends on the situation, person reliability evidence or status. (BBC Jimmy Saville) Do you agree with Thracian that not all attacks on girls on Birmingham trains are reported? Or attacks by migrants, or anyone else are reported? Where I stand in the forum is that those responsible for sexual attacks on women should be punished and those innocent of said crimes should not. Is that clear enough? I hope my reply did not come across the wrong way. Thracian asked the question 'How many of these incidents are not reported?p my reply was to explain that in my view not reporting a crime of this nature was not unique across the world and there were many factors involved. I have nothing more to add.
Guest MattP Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 The above is the definition of a drunken incoherent ramble. I'm more confuses now as to where you stand on the migrant issue than I was before. You make it sound like some people don't want guilty people to be punished and innocent ones not to be.
Webbo Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 Easy. I ask the same.Do you think all crimes are reported across the world? Do yo think the reporting of said crimes depends on the situation, person reliability evidence or status. (BBC Jimmy Saville) Do you agree with Thracian that not all attacks on girls on Birmingham trains are reported? Or attacks by migrants, or anyone else are reported? Where I stand in the forum is that those responsible for sexual attacks on women should be punished and those innocent of said crimes should not. Is that clear enough? I hope my reply did not come across the wrong way. Thracian asked the question 'How many of these incidents are not reported?p my reply was to explain that in my view not reporting a crime of this nature was not unique across the world and there were many factors involved. I have nothing more to add. I've read that 4 or 5 times and I still have no idea what you're on about.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 And how many not reported? Lots. I've read that 4 or 5 times and I still have no idea what you're on about.
Thracian Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 That's more alarming than immigration They're both alarming and a graphic illustration of the flawed idealology and reckless stupidity of our leadership since the time of Tony Blair. And have we recognised that stupidity? Yes, even past leading lights of the increasingly usurped Labour Party have publicly acknowledged the folly of it but only in the manner of someone deliberately shooting someone dead then saying "sorry", as if it somehow helps when it doesn't. And has anything been done to curb the continuance of such stupidity and so many belated apologies? Nothing. Nor, even as someone who's voted Conservative on occasions and who increasingly loathes today's Labour party, do I believe that Cameron will ever do anything about it. At least nothing that has any effect other than to give an impression of something being done.
Thracian Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 I've read that 4 or 5 times and I still have no idea what you're on about. When you've worked it out, I'd appreciate you letting me know too. Cos I've no idea either.
Rincewind Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 When you've worked it out, I'd appreciate you letting me know too. Cos I've no idea either. Well clearly you have not read your own post. You asked how many attacks on women were not reported I said that unreported attacks on women happened throughout the world. Is that simple enough?
Stadt Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 They're both alarming and a graphic illustration of the flawed idealology and reckless stupidity of our leadership since the time of Tony Blair. And have we recognised that stupidity? Yes, even past leading lights of the increasingly usurped Labour Party have publicly acknowledged the folly of it but only in the manner of someone deliberately shooting someone dead then saying "sorry", as if it somehow helps when it doesn't. And has anything been done to curb the continuance of such stupidity and so many belated apologies? Nothing. Nor, even as someone who's voted Conservative on occasions and who increasingly loathes today's Labour party, do I believe that Cameron will ever do anything about it. At least nothing that has any effect other than to give an impression of something being done. That's my biggest problem with the Tories now, Cameron alludes to solving problems but he rarely delivers. The best of a bad bunch.
Guest Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 Well clearly you have not read your own post. You asked how many attacks on women were not reported I said that unreported attacks on women happened throughout the world. Is that simple enough? They're just winding you up Rince. Your meaning was clear.
Webbo Posted 2 February 2016 Posted 2 February 2016 They're just winding you up Rince. Your meaning was clear. Perhaps you can explain it then?
Guest Posted 4 February 2016 Posted 4 February 2016 Perhaps you can explain it then? What? your continual ragging on Rincey? It's worse than any disagreements Moose and I have had.
Webbo Posted 4 February 2016 Posted 4 February 2016 What? your continual ragging on Rincey? It's worse than any disagreements Moose and I have had. That's a no then? I've no problem with Ken if he wants to contribute to the thread but just taking pot shots at others and acting superior while sitting on the fence is a bit of a no no for me.
Guest MattP Posted 4 February 2016 Posted 4 February 2016 Given that FIF appears to be the only one who understood it I wouldn't mind an explanation either.
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2016 Posted 4 February 2016 That's a no then? I've no problem with Ken if he wants to contribute to the thread but just taking pot shots at others and acting superior while sitting on the fence is a bit of a no no for me. Who was I having a pot shot at? It seems that I am the subject of pot shots. I see them as a bit of fun trying to get negative responses. I am not that easy to react with abuse. You'll have to try harder. All I was saying in response to Thrachian's question 'How many attacks are unreported?' was that it was a little sad that all crimes against women were not reported and it was a global thing not just in Birmingham on trains. Something others have said on here previously. As I have said before I do not think there are any easy solutions because of the complex nature of the situation. There are many factors to it going back years. It would not seem right to say I have all the answers when I do not so am just being honest.
Guest Posted 4 February 2016 Posted 4 February 2016 Who was I having a pot shot at? It seems that I am the subject of pot shots. I see them as a bit of fun trying to get negative responses. I am not that easy to react with abuse. You'll have to try harder. All I was saying in response to Thrachian's question 'How many attacks are unreported?' was that it was a little sad that all crimes against women were not reported and it was a global thing not just in Birmingham on trains. Something others have said on here previously. As I have said before I do not think there are any easy solutions because of the complex nature of the situation. There are many factors to it going back years. It would not seem right to say I have all the answers when I do not so am just being honest. Can't understand why Mattp and Webbo can't understand what you're saying. I agree that you seem to be the target for a few attacks. They should just accept you are what you are and then not read what you're posting
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