Madrid the summary!

[mazarron fox]

Well just back from Madrid and got to say the city is amazing, friendly, we were in with the home fans  and they were fine all of us showing mutual respect. They sang their hearts out all match and the atmosphere in the ground was terrific. The metro is a good way to get around and some of the neighborhoods are classy. ( we were in delicias). Met some great people from Leicester but we also saw the absolute dregs of the city, hell bent on ruining for the rest of us. People without tickets just there to cause trouble and tarnish our city and the rest of us decent folk. Then the lads on the train pinching beer and videoing it, real quality that lads and if you worked for me you would be sacked.

I live in Spain and am immensely proud of my home city and the people in it , and enjoy this life and the people but am now getting stick from fellow expats asking why oh why? 

I feel I have to defend my city but it's the 1% who think it's great to kick off in a foreign capital city on world tv that are tarnishing our city our club everything. I think the open letter to us would be welcome to the champions league thanks for comoing but we hope you never come back!

 

feeling sad

[Gforce19]

People jealous of our success have been waiting for something like this for ages , (1) lads stealing drinks on train and videoing it . Idiots and hopefully they will get arrested with their own video evidence to prove their guilt .

How do you know these lads were from Leicester or genuine fans ?

(2) Stupid England songs from the 80's and general Nationslism , sang by lads who had been drinking all day .

Other than that they had not done anything wrong . There was no violence and yes some had gone too far by being so drunk but the true provocation came from the Spanish police who were completely unacceptable , it is not the way to go about clearing the area .

There were no reported issues in Porto , Copenhagen , Seville or Bruges .

The Spanish Police behaved like a militia controlling a coup , unacceptable and this caused the on going problems and Gibraltar/Brexit songs etc.

Leicester was one of the few areas along side London and Birmingham that the majority voted remain !!!!

The heavy handed approach was red rag to a bull !!!!'

 If they had not done this then you would not feel sad .

The actual fans in the Stadium were top class and I ask you to remember that as ultimately they are the fans of the club .

[mazarron fox]

Hi g force thanks for that but at about 3pm on Tuesday the moronic element were up to cause trouble. They told us they enjoyed it ' kicking off ' and would make sure it did. 

Thats not the fault of the Spanish police , Madrid citizens or the rest of the excellent fans. These lunatics have tarnished the cities reputation simple as

[Gforce19]

This is my point , those yobs wanting it to kick off were not   fans that the club would want to be associated with , they had their agenda and that is it  , but I agree our reputation has been severely tarnished but remember Hillsborough and the Sun newspaper , people outside of Leicester have their agenda , how do you know those lads were not infiltrated by others with different agendas .

Any true  LCFC  fan would not have been acting like that however the Spanish police could have dealt with the trouble makers not go round mindlessly arresting innocent people as well as dangerously beating genuine fans , kids and old people alike ,

I am pointing out that the Police handling was wrong , If a mindless drunk yob took a hit and was arrested  I doubt anyone would be complaining.

[AKCJ]

40 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

Hi g force thanks for that but at about 3pm on Tuesday the moronic element were up to cause trouble. They told us they enjoyed it ' kicking off ' and would make sure it did. 

Thats not the fault of the Spanish police , Madrid citizens or the rest of the excellent fans. These lunatics have tarnished the cities reputation simple as

 

Sorry mate but you can't have been in the square if thats what you think.

 

I was there and I saw a lot of Leicester fans having a good time drinking, no trouble whatsoever until the Madrid police decided it was time to stop it all. The police went from 0 to 100 in seconds and many innocent people were hurt. I saw people with massive bruises not through breaking the law but by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

The Spanish police were ****ing evil and hell bent on whacking as many Leicester fans as possible. I didn't feel safe wearing my City shirt and that shouldn't ever be the case.

[Wymsey]

Leicester - unlucky.

Athletico Madrid - were decent but we're lucky with the penalty and 50-50 decisions via the ref.

Diego Simeone - arrogant and disrespectful.

Madrid police - incompetent in their jobs, it appears, striking anyone with a blue shirt near them.

[mazarron fox]

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

 

Sorry mate but you can't have been in the square if thats what you think.

 

I was there and I saw a lot of Leicester fans having a good time drinking, no trouble whatsoever until the Madrid police decided it was time to stop it all. The police went from 0 to 100 in seconds and many innocent people were hurt. I saw people with massive bruises not through breaking the law but by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

The Spanish police were ****ing evil and hell bent on whacking as many Leicester fans as possible. I didn't feel safe wearing my City shirt and that shouldn't ever be the case.

You are right we weren't in the square at the time it kicked off, because much earlier we talked to ticketless fans who were hell bent on making it kick off. Now call me stupid or misreading something here but I thought it was more prudent drinking away from the square with let's say more like minded people and thus avoid a potential beating

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, mazarron fox said:

You are right we weren't in the square at the time it kicked off, because much earlier we talked to ticketless fans who were hell bent on making it kick off. Now call me stupid or misreading something here but I thought it was more prudent drinking away from the square with let's say more like minded people and thus avoid a potential beating

I enjoyed a good old sing song and a few beers in the square. I also had a ticket to the game.

Drop the high horse attitude mate.

[Koke]

We're not the first English side to have fans who behave like thugs nor will we be the last. Numerous English clubs hsve caused trouble abroad. Even Rangers fans rioted in Manchester. Will those those other British clubs also get a "thank you for coming but hope you never come back" letter?

 

 

[m4DD0gg]

4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I enjoyed a good old sing song and a few beers in the square. I also had a ticket to the game.

Drop the high horse attitude mate.

To be fair throwing bottles of beer and smoke bombs at notoriously over the top police is asking for it.

 

Whilst innocent city fans were caught up in the trouble the police wont look at it as objectively as that and tarnish all with the same brush.

 

Imo alcohol was the route cause of it all and usually is.

[Gforce19]

And I bet the real reason you left that area was because you knew from your experience of living in Spain that the Madrid Police were going to beat up LCFC fans indiscriminately and you were scared of being a victim of Spanish Police brutality . 

This is actually what you need to tell your friends !!!!!!!!!'

[Riot Van]

Every club has their EDL massive unfortunately 

[mazarron fox]

1 minute ago, Gforce19 said:

And I bet the real reason you left that area was because you knew from your experience of living in Spain that the Madrid Police were going to beat up LCFC fans indiscriminately and you were scared of being a victim of Spanish Police brutality . 

This is actually what you need to tell your friends !!!!!!!!!'

What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say I have lived here four years and never seen a Spanish policeman hit anyone with a baton or anything else. Also living here I don't see middle aged males getting excited about the thought of mixing it with the local police or on the various trains Iv travelled on seeing youths robbing the buffet car! Maybe I'm missing the point.

[Gforce19]

I am sorry but I know for a fact that the Guardia Civil are notorious , I was sat in a bar in Mijas Costa in Malaga with all Spanish friends and 2 Guardia Civil Officers came in,  my friends faces changed , every one was quiet and saying "don't look at them , don't get eye contact "etc . 

I replied why and my friends said genuinely scared that they would take someone outside and beat them up for no reason , this is fact and because I am English at the time I had no ideas of this reputation but my friends were Spanish and extremely scared .

As for saying you have never seen police brutality by Spanish police , one thing comes to mind , to quote a certain legend ,

"Are you an Ostrich?".

Re the theft on the train . Already said are these people from Leicester and whoever they are I hope they get nicked for this , it had absolutely nothing to do with LCFC , or the game or people from Leicester  as far as we know .

[mazarron fox]

1 minute ago, Gforce19 said:

I am sorry but I know for a fact that the Guardia Civil are notorious , I was sat in a bar in Mijas Costa in Malaga with all Spanish friends and 2 Guardia Civil Officers came in,  my friends faces changed , every one was quiet and saying "don't look at them , don't get eye contact "etc . 

I replied why and my friends said genuinely scared that they would take someone outside and beat them up for no reason , this is fact .

As for saying you have never seen police brutality by Spanish police , one thing comes to mind , to quite a certain legend ,

"Are you an Ostrich?".

Re the theft on the train . Already said are these people from Leicester and whoever they are I hope they get nicked for this , it had absolutely nothing to do with LCFC , or the game or people from Leicester  as far as we know .

The lads are from Leicester on the train as people have said in other posts they know them so the fools will prob get collared/ banned for it. Your view of the Spanish police is correct in so much as All and in particular the guardia civil get respect. Indiscriminate beatings? Sorry it don't happen to normal law abiding people

[lmtiazLCFC4LIFE]

The ones that caused the disruption should get banned from all Leicester games.

[mazarron fox]

1 minute ago, lmtiazLCFC4LIFE said:

The ones that caused the disruption should get banned from all Leicester games.

I agree and named and shamed. It's clear from the post and other posts on here that we all have different views of what Is normal and not normal behavior.

[Gforce19]

My points are still the same.  

The police indiscriminately beat up fans to clear the Plaza.

This is a fact that cannot be denied but in order to cover up their undoing the Spanish media and jealous English rival fans (many who work in English media) are making us put to be the cause .

If you were to take 7000 people from Leicester randomly , put them together in a warm square and fill them all with alcohol then some would misbehave .

You left the square yourself because you knew the Spanish Police were going to wade in and did not want to be one of the innocents standing in the wrong place .

Your sadness is misplaced as the fans in the stadium and following the club throughout Europe do not deserve to be all tarnished with the same reputation.

 

[CockneyFox]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

 

Sorry mate but you can't have been in the square if thats what you think.

 

I was there and I saw a lot of Leicester fans having a good time drinking, no trouble whatsoever until the Madrid police decided it was time to stop it all. The police went from 0 to 100 in seconds and many innocent people were hurt. I saw people with massive bruises not through breaking the law but by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

The Spanish police were ****ing evil and hell bent on whacking as many Leicester fans as possible. I didn't feel safe wearing my City shirt and that shouldn't ever be the case.

Sorry but that is just nonsense. Just after 5pm a mob of around 100 or so Leicester "fans" decided it would be a good idea to approach the Spanish "Nacional" riot police - aggressive chanting, lots of beer cans thrown etc - who then restored order in the only way they know. Fully sympathise that a number of innocent fans got caught up in the response but to suggest the Nacional police made the first move is just ridiculous.

[mazarron fox]

I havnt tarnished all the fans at all I said 1% of the cretins who ruin it the post by cockney fox above sums it up for me 

[st albans fox]

As ever, the truth is somewhere inbetween all the different reports 

 

had there not been any flares in the square then the afternoon could have potentially concluded without incident - however, would probably have gone off after the game as some fans were intent on some kind of confrontation. 

 

And the Spanish civil guard were willing adversaries.  The recipe of sunshine and an unending supply of beer in the plaza which had plenty of space plus the police having a pretty well zero tolerance  to any provocation was pretty well bound to result in trouble. Don't underestimate events on Tuesday evening which meant any possible goodwill between police and fans was a struggle. (there was potential for trouble in sevilla during the wed afternoon but the smaller sized groups plus the more sensible attitude of the police kept it under control - LCFC stewards were more visible amongst the smaller crowds also).

 

anyway, some of the people there, apparently  in the name of our club (probably about 30/40) were complete nobs. That pretty well ruined the day for thousands - was really looking forward to the walk to the ground and I'm certain the subsequent poor atmosphere in the away end was to do with concerns about what the police might do at any time, during and after the game. 

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

We're not the first English side to have fans who behave like thugs nor will we be the last. Numerous English clubs hsve caused trouble abroad. Even Rangers fans rioted in Manchester. Will those those other British clubs also get a "thank you for coming but hope you never come back" letter?

 

 

I read a Liverpool fan on twitter saying we were a disgrace in Europe, now if that's not the pot calling the kettle I don't know what is. I just replyed with one word. Hysel 

[VLC86]

10 minutes ago, CockneyFox said:

Sorry but that is just nonsense. Just after 5pm a mob of around 100 or so Leicester "fans" decided it would be a good idea to approach the Spanish "Nacional" riot police - aggressive chanting, lots of beer cans thrown etc - who then restored order in the only way they know. Fully sympathise that a number of innocent fans got caught up in the response but to suggest the Nacional police made the first move is just ridiculous.

I was watching from my balcony and saw 3 cans go flying through the air, then a flare and then the police kicked into gear.

 

Very sad that a few individuals caused 100s of innocent people to get battered.

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, CockneyFox said:

Sorry but that is just nonsense. Just after 5pm a mob of around 100 or so Leicester "fans" decided it would be a good idea to approach the Spanish "Nacional" riot police - aggressive chanting, lots of beer cans thrown etc - who then restored order in the only way they know. Fully sympathise that a number of innocent fans got caught up in the response but to suggest the Nacional police made the first move is just ridiculous.

Pretty well agree with that although I'm sure had the Tuesday evening stuff not occurred, the situation wouldn't have  escalated so quickly yesterday.

 

the appearance of the initial flare for the TV cameras brought the police into the away fans to retrieve it (they weren't threatening at that point ) and the nobs immediately used their presence to ratchet it up, soon bringing out a number of other flares and firecrackers - I don't suppose the police appreciated the repeated echo of loud bangs in the city given the current security situation. 

[VLC86]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Pretty well agree with that although I'm sure had the Tuesday evening stuff not occurred, the situation wouldn't have  escalated so quickly yesterday.

 

the appearance of the initial flare for the TV cameras brought the police into the away fans to retrieve it (they weren't threatening at that point ) and the nobs immediately used their presence to ratchet it up, soon bringing out a number of other flares and firecrackers - I don't suppose the police appreciated the repeated echo of loud bangs in the city given the current security situation. 

Also bare in mind this square is one of the main tourist attractions in Spain, it wasn't like we solely had access to it.