DJ Barry Hammond Posted 29 April 2018 Author Posted 29 April 2018 1 minute ago, Strokes said: Get Rudd gone, go for TM. Bring down the government and hopefully elect a pro brexit house and stay out the customs union. Good times. I sense this is the way its going (bring down the Government). The guardian have clearly worked on this a long time and built a solid case here. They drip fed the individual Windrush stories, waited for the government response and denials (as if they knew that's what would happen), only to produce contradictory evidence not once but twice. I'm certain there is more to come, the stuff being produced shows they have a solid source; and its not hard to think Theresa May might have pissed off a few people in the Home Office enough for them to keep it in mind and serve a cold dish of revenge at an opportune moment. In terms of Brexit though - this is not what you want Strokes, a change of Government (even if that's merely internally in the form of a new PM without going to the polls) add delays to the process and hand ties the UK's position even more. And given May's back tracking from a hard Brexit cliff edge, that would suggest they realise its not a pretty prospect to look at and is not a jump any government serious about getting re-elected should take.
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 10 minutes ago, Strokes said: Get Rudd gone, go for TM. Bring down the government and hopefully elect a pro brexit house and stay out the customs union. Good times. Hard Brexit is dead I'm afraid mate. Here if you need to talk.
Strokes Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 2 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: I sense this is the way its going (bring down the Government). The guardian have clearly worked on this a long time and built a solid case here. They drip fed the individual Windrush stories, waited for the government response and denials (as if they knew that's what would happen), only to produce contradictory evidence not once but twice. I'm certain there is more to come, the stuff being produced shows they have a solid source; and its not hard to think Theresa May might have pissed off a few people in the Home Office enough for them to keep it in mind and serve a cold dish of revenge at an opportune moment. In terms of Brexit though - this is not what you want Strokes, a change of Government (even if that's merely internally in the form of a new PM without going to the polls) add delays to the process and hand ties the UK's position even more. And given May's back tracking from a hard Brexit cliff edge, that would suggest they realise its not a pretty prospect to look at and is not a jump any government serious about getting re-elected should take. It is what I want, if it results in a GE. Plus it'd be quite amusing and I love elections.
Strokes Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 1 minute ago, toddybad said: Hard Brexit is dead I'm afraid mate. Here if you need to talk. It is if you keep changing the definition. Have you decided what it finally means yet?
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: It is if you keep changing the definition. Have you decided what it finally means yet? The definition is written on Jacob Rees Mogg's forehead. Fortunately, you don't actually need to read it. If text is visible it's because his forehead is taut and his smile is broad. If the text cannot be seen it's because his brow is furrowed and his demeanour that of an angry wasp. You can judge whether we're on course for a hard Brexit simply by watching him carefully.
Strokes Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 1 minute ago, toddybad said: The definition is written on Jacob Rees Mogg's forehead. Fortunately, you don't actually need to read it. If text is visible it's because his forehead is taut and his smile is broad. If the text cannot be seen it's because his brow is furrowed and his demeanour that of an angry wasp. You can judge whether we're on course for a hard Brexit simply by watching him carefully. So long as a soft brexit contains leaving the SM and CU, you can have my support for it.
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Strokes said: So long as a soft brexit contains leaving the SM and CU, you can have my support for it. That could only really work with the mother of all free trade deals. It isn't impossible but it also isn't very likely. I've said before that free trade is my test of whether it's hard or soft but as we've learnt more it appears we won't have a full free trade deal without SM and CU so it seems to me there's a continuum that starts at soft Brexit in the SM and ends with no deal. Exactly where on that continuum hard Brexit begins I don't know but clearly there are softer and harder versions along the way. Edited 29 April 2018 by Guest
Strokes Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 2 minutes ago, toddybad said: That could only really work with the mother of all free trade deals. It isn't impossible but it also isn't very likely. I've said before that free trade is my test of whether it's hard or soft but as we've learnt more it appears we won't have a full free trade deal without SM and CU so it seems to me there's a continuum that starts at soft Brexit in the SM and ends with no deal. Exactly where on that continuum hard Brexit begins I don't know but clearly there are softer and harder versions along the way. Still keeping your options open.....Classic toddy
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 11 minutes ago, Strokes said: Still keeping your options open.....Classic toddy Soft Brexit = SM and CU Hard Brexit = No Deal In between = continuum
Rogstanley Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 1 hour ago, Strokes said: Get Rudd gone, go for TM. Bring down the government and hopefully elect a pro brexit house and stay out the customs union. Good times. Absolutely no chance the tories win a majority with any of your brexiteer incels as leader.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 29 April 2018 Author Posted 29 April 2018 3 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Absolutely no chance the tories win a majority with any of your brexiteer incels as leader. Well there is, because Corbyn's still in charge for Labour... I just don't think he'll ever find enough youths or Russian backing to win a FPTP contest.
Strokes Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 9 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Absolutely no chance the tories win a majority with any of your brexiteer incels as leader. There are plenty of pro brexit candidates on the left, I don’t care who wins so long as they deliver the right deal.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 The state of Amber Rudd, imagine getting scalped by Dianne Abbott. 3
Dr The Singh Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 4 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Breaking: Rudd has resigned Why do all the sexy ones go,.....
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 29 April 2018 Author Posted 29 April 2018 Just now, Dr The Singh said: Why do all the sexy ones go,..... I’ve not gone anywhere? And neither have you ? ? 1
Dr The Singh Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 Just now, DJ Barry Hammond said: I’ve not gone anywhere? And neither have you ? ? 1
Rogstanley Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 51 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Well there is, because Corbyn's still in charge for Labour... I just don't think he'll ever find enough youths or Russian backing to win a FPTP contest. May came across as quite harmless, moderate and sensible (how wrong we were!) and she couldn't beat Corbyn. No chance a brexit extremist incel like JRM or Gove improves on that performance imo.
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 4 hours ago, toddybad said: http://hasamberruddresignedyet.com/
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 29 April 2018 Author Posted 29 April 2018 4 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: May came across as quite harmless, moderate and sensible (how wrong we were!) and she couldn't beat Corbyn. No chance a brexit extremist incel like JRM or Gove improves on that performance imo. Well she did... despite a god awful campaign. She didn’t secure enough seats for a majority - but she is still Prime Minister (at least for now).
Jon the Hat Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 10 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: May came across as quite harmless, moderate and sensible (how wrong we were!) and she couldn't beat Corbyn. No chance a brexit extremist incel like JRM or Gove improves on that performance imo. You appear to completely misunderstand the term Incel given both JRM and Gove are married.
Guest Posted 29 April 2018 Posted 29 April 2018 Another remainer free to vote against the government too
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