Thailand Cave Rescue

[Webbo]

24 minutes ago, simFox said:

What he "thought" should have stayed in his head if he had any decency. Him and Musk are both on the same level imo.

Tbf, he didn't accuse Musk of being a paedo.

[Finnegan]

"Your sub won't work in this tiny cave complex, we're fine with just some divers tbf" 

 

 

"You're a paedophile" 

 

 

Same level imo. 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, simFox said:

What he "thought" should have stayed in his head if he had any decency. Him and Musk are both on the same level imo.

 

You cant be serious?

Edited 16 July 2018 by MPH

[Bellend Sebastian]

Why does Elon Musk have a tiny submarine for transporting children anyway?

[Xen]

17 hours ago, simFox said:

Why did unsworth tell him to stick it? Musk was trying to help and his submarine may help someone in future or the MK2 might. He could have just thanked him for his contribution but sadly this time it was not required. What would have been wrong with that? Instead he went on a rant and told him to stick it!

 

I'm not defending Musk, he's a c0cksocket too.

 

Musk inserted himself into a disaster situation, tried to play the hero by developing a 'solution' that was never viable for this particular case (the sub wouldn't fit through parts of the cave), and tweeting self-gratifications throughout. If anything, he probably got in the way and wasted time distracting from the main operation.

 

As an actual part of the rescue operation, Unsworth has every right to feel aggrieved at what Musk has (not) done and then claimed praise for.

[lifted*fox]

mmm, yeah Musk hasn't really covered himself in glory by reaching for the pedo card. 

 

Musk might be an egotistical self-serving kinda guy but his companies and his willingness to create tech like that in very quick time-frames will have benefits, no doubt.

 

look at the massive battery array he created to help the Puerto Rico situation. 

 

swings and roundabouts really but drawing for pedo like that is jokes. playground level shit. 

[Finnegan]

It's not really jokes playground level shit though is it? 

 

"You smell" and "your mom is fat" to a friend or acquaintance in the street in front of two or three people is jokes playground shit. 

 

Being labelled a paedophile, which is probably one of the most significantly damaging insults you can throw at anyone, by one of the most followed and read social media accounts in the world is a bit above that. 

[simFox]

5 hours ago, Xen said:

Musk inserted himself into a disaster situation, tried to play the hero by developing a 'solution' that was never viable for this particular case (the sub wouldn't fit through parts of the cave), and tweeting self-gratifications throughout. If anything, he probably got in the way and wasted time distracting from the main operation.

 

As an actual part of the rescue operation, Unsworth has every right to feel aggrieved at what Musk has (not) done and then claimed praise for.

Musk was asked to contribute after he offered his services. Whether they were used or not doesn't make them any less of a contribution. I'm not justifying calling unsworth a pedo, certainly not, but unsworth didn't cover himself in glory and fired the first shot.

 

Btw, can you just clarify unsworths "actual" contribution. 

Edited 17 July 2018 by simFox

[Xen]

41 minutes ago, simFox said:

Musk was asked to contribute after he offered his services. Whether they were used or not doesn't make them any less of a contribution. I'm not justifying calling unsworth a pedo, certainly not, but unsworth didn't cover himself in glory and fired the first shot.

 

Btw, can you just clarify unsworths "actual" contribution. 

 

 

Musk wasn't asked to contribute. He stated he could help and immediately started developing a solution and flying his staff over to Thailand. Whether or not there was ever any agreement from the Thai authorities or the rescue operation is unclear, but seeing as they never once stopped working on their own solutions, and completely ignored anything he came up with, I think it's a fair assertion that they weren't overly enthusiastic about Musk imposing himself on the situation.

 

Okay: Unsworth co-led the entire operation.

 

I fail to see how anyone can take Musk's side in this. Whether or not you believe it to be a PR stunt, he offered far less to the rescue operation than Unsworth and the rest of the crew, and is sputtering out far worse insults than anyone else with no basis whatsoever, purely because his ego was bruised.

[simFox]

Unsworth lived nearby and contributed knowledge of the cave network. He wasn't on the rescue team that saved them, he's just a recreational cave diver. Co-led the operation is a bit of a media news fakery. He recommended the British cave rescue experts, as being a cave diver himself; he knew about them, but then so do all cave divers.

 

Read the Aussie doctors thankyou note on Facebook, not one mention of Vernon Unsworth...

[simFox]

https://www.facebook.com/DoctorHarry/posts/1021438...

[davieG]

Tech entrepreneur Elon Musk has apologised to a British cave diver he called "pedo guy" in a row over the cave rescue in Thailand.

He said he had "spoken in anger" after Vern Unsworth ridiculed a mini-submarine he had commissioned for the rescue effort as a "PR stunt".

"His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologise," Mr Musk said.

Mr Unsworth told reporters on Monday he was considering legal action.

Thailand's cave boys to leave hospital
The full story of Thailand’s extraordinary cave rescue
Twelve boys and their football coach were rescued from deep within a cave earlier this month after being trapped for more than two weeks.

Mr Unsworth's knowledge of the cave complex is said to have played a key role in the rescue effort.

He travelled into the caves in the first days after the boys went missing and helped bring in top international cave rescue experts for the mission.

Mr Musk, head of the SpaceX and Tesla companies, visited the command centre in Thailand during the rescue, announcing he had left the rescuers a mini-submarine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44870303

 

[Webbo]

A rather large donation to a Thai hospital would go a long way if he really is sorry.

[davieG]

Twelve boys and their football coach who were rescued from a flooded cave in northern Thailand have left hospital in preparation for returning home.

They had been in the Chiang Rai clinic since last week, when they were pulled from the Tham Luang cave complex in a three-day operation.

The group will make their first public appearance at a news conference and answer questions about their ordeal.

After that they will go back to their homes and families, officials say.

"Media can ask them questions and after that they can go back to live their normal lives without media bothering them," Thailand's chief government spokesman Sunsern Kaewkumnerd told news agency AFP.

Chiang Rai's provincial governor Prachon Pratsukan added that it would be their "only official media interview", saying that there would "be no more speaking with the press after this".

Questions submitted by journalists were vetted ahead of time, and have been screened by a child psychiatrist to ensure they don't distress the boys.

Media captionThai cave rescue: Saying sorry to cave spirit Nang Norn
The press conference is due to begin at around 18:00 local time (11:00 GMT).

There are also plans for the boys to be ordained as Buddhist monks for a short period of time, a tradition for males in Thailand who have experienced a misfortune.

[lifted*fox]

 

LOL