20 more men of mainly Pakistani Muslim background found guilty of grooming, raping and abusing kids.

[Dr The Singh]

This is shocking, but I'm glad this has come to light in mainstrain media:

 

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201811271070178426-grooming-gangs-sikh-coverup/

 

It substantiates what I have been saying, this is not a new phenomenon, and has been for many years ignored

 

A bombshell expose released November 26 revealed how gangs of predominantly Pakistani men have sexually preyed on Sikh girls in the UK for decades - and authorities "recklessly ignored" the abuse due to concerns over "political correctness".

The study, published by the Sikh Mediation and Rehabilitation Team charity, documented in shocking detail how young members of the Sikh community have been systematically groomed by Muslim men since the 1960s. Girls would be lured by "fashionably-dressed adult Pakistani men travelling in flamboyant vehicles to predominantly Sikh dominated areas and schools" — after initial contact, they'd be groomed by one man, who would then pass her on to other family members.

Labour MP Sarah Champion, who strongly endorsed the report, is calling for an independent investigation into the scandal.

"I was shocked when I first heard about the organised abuse of Sikh girls by Pakistani men. When I started speaking to Sikh women, I couldn't believe how widespread the grooming and abuse was — and this has been going on for decades. All forms of sexual exploitation must be prevented. We need to speak of the abuse of Sikh girls to take it out of the shadows and make sure the authorities take it seriously," she said.

Conspiracy of Silence

 

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UK Police Ignored Sex Abuse of Sikh Girls by Pakistani Men for Decades – Reports

While the report has provoked mainstream outcry, few British Sikhs were shocked by its contents — after all, Deepa Singh, senior member of Sikh Meditation and Rehabilitation Team, told Sputnik British Sikhs have been "battling" Muslim grooming gangs "for some time".

 

"This is a historical problem for us. The sexual abuse of young, vulnerable girls is evidently socially acceptable for certain members of the Muslim community — it's a minority, yes, but the characteristics of the perpetrators must be acknowledged and exposed. Sikhs have openly condemned this issue from day one, and alerted authorities back in the 1970s — and the 1980s and 1990s — but it was repeatedly brushed under the carpet," he said.

Lord Indarjit Singh, director of the Network of Sikh Organisations charity, is a prominent, respected and highly influential member of the British Sikh community — and he has witnessed official refusal to acknowledge the issue first-hand. Roughly a decade ago, he raised his concerns about Islamic grooming with the Inter Faith Network, a government-connected group dedicated to "promoting good relations between persons of different faiths". The Muslim representative on the body's board of governors said he was "well aware" of the problem, but "they just tended to ignore such people".

 

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"I've been raising it in various fora for years — the response has always been to push it to one side. It's a recurring theme with political correctness — pretend a problem doesn't exist and doesn't need to be investigated. The Quran's teachings in respect of women are very negative and Islamic culture isn't respectful of them. The ethnic backgrounds of perpetrators cannot and should not be ignored — neither should the fact victims of sexual grooming gangs are almost always non-Muslim," Lord Singh told Sputnik.

 

Indeed, such was official stonewalling, Deepa notes many Sikhs took it upon themselves to defend their families and communities from Islamic grooming gangs — they would be prosecuted and severely punished for their vigilantism. Peter McLoughlin, author of the 2014 work Easy Meat which delved into the issue of grooming gangs in forensic detail, believes these incidents as the earliest public manifestation of the phenomenon — and he can find no records indicating any member of a Muslim grooming gangs was the target of arrests and prosecutions at the time.

"In 1988 in Wolverhampton there were violent confrontations after Sikhs formed into gangs to protect young Sikh girls from being groomed by gangs of Muslim men. The main Sikh gang was called Shere Punjab. Some of the gang members received criminal convictions because of their attacks on Muslim gangs. It all started when the Sikh gang handed leaflets out saying "Muslim youths are coming round our schools… they are abducting our girls… and they are raping them and putting them into prostitution", a description entirely consistent with what's since finally been officially acknowledged about grooming gangs since. Shere Punjab claim to have given police the names and car registration details of those Muslims involved in grooming non-Muslim girls, and been told by officers they'd sort out the problem if the gang "stepped out the way" — but they did nothing to stop the sexual abuse gangs operating. Again, this is entirely consistent with the behaviour of authorities in other parts of the country since," Peter told Sputnik.

 

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Sex Grooming Gangs in UK: Society Protects Perpetrators, Not Victims – Author

As a result, he suggests, there is "every reason" to believe the grooming gangs continued operating, and were even "emboldened" by the "success of their operations". Social services, police and the media had sent a "clear message" to abusers he feels — "carry on with what you are doing, we are not going to stop you, we are not going to expose your crimes."

 

This may account for why the Sikh Awareness Society, set up in 1998 to provide support for Sikhs affected by grooming gangs, among other issues, is inundated with requests for help each and every day — founder Mohan Singh says the organization's 24-hour helpline "never stops ringing".

Hear No Evil

A palpable demonstration of this official conspiracy of silence in practice is provided by the example of Rotherham, which was home to the "biggest child protection scandal" in UK history.

There, organized child sexual abuse continued almost unchallenged by legal authorities from the late 1980s to the early 2010s, with up to 1,400 children affected. The abuse included gang rape, forcing children to watch rape, dousing victims with petrol and threatening to set them on fire, threatening to rape victims' mothers and younger sisters, and trafficking them to other towns. Several victims also became pregnant —one aged 12.

 

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EXCLUSIVE: How UK Authorities Cover Up Child Abuse by Muslim Grooming Gangs

Prior to the case making national headlines, the town had never been publicly associated with organized child abuse — although local government agencies there knew about local Islamic child abuse gangs as early as 1996, when Rotherham council conducted an investigation into organized grooming.

 

The next year, Rotherham council created a youth project, Risky Business, aimed at helping girls aged 11 — 25 at risk of sexual exploitation. Its chief, Jayne Senior, soon concluded a grooming network was operating in the town — and collected so much information police suggested she start forwarding it to an electronic dropbox on the South Yorkshire Police computer network. Senior, who earned an MBE in 2016 for her role in uncovering the scandal, later learned that police did not read anything she submitted to the dropbox, and its contents could not be accessed by other forces.

Moreover, a 2010 internal Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board memo stated "great care will be taken in drafting this report to ensure its findings embrace Rotherham's qualities of diversity. It is imperative suggestions of a wider cultural phenomenon are avoided."

 

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Underage Sexual Abuse: Another Grooming Gang on Loose in London

A 2013 independent inquiry headed by Professor Alexis Jay attributed official failure to address abuse in Rotherham to a number of factors relating to race, class and gender. These included contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward mostly working-class victims, fear perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations, the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority, and a desire to protect the town's reputation.

 

"As every month passes, the argument in Easy Meat proves more and more prescient. My book came out nearly five years ago. It was an attempt to wake the public up, get them to demand civilized solutions to the problem. However, I fear by 2024 it'll still be years ahead of mainstream debate on grooming gangs. Any hope I had of the country changing course has faded now," Peter grimly concludes.

 

 

[Dr The Singh]

Also on Daily Mail:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6428197/Sexual-exploitation-British-Sikh-girls-grooming-gangs-ignored-claims-report.html

 

 

[Buce]

One of the Rotherham rapists gets chance to be part of his victim’s child’s life because he’s the father and has his ‘Human Rights’. 

 

Speechless. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46368991

[Guest MattP]

1 hour ago, Buce said:

One of the Rotherham rapists gets chance to be part of his victim’s child’s life because he’s the father and has his ‘Human Rights’. 

 

Speechless. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46368991

Sickening, but not in the least bit surprised. When I read this in the paper yesterday and they wouldn't name the council I knew it was going to be Rotherham. They'll probably go into denial again about like they did back in 2012 when the original allegations played out.

 

People will look back on this lot with amazement historically, barred children from being fostered by UKIP/Christian councillors but turned a blind eye to mass gang rape and even after the exposure of it tried to hook up the kids back with the perpetrators of it.

It's quite baffling we still don't have a law in place that a child conceived by rape can't be contacted by the father.

[urban.spaceman]

The profound incompetence is just staggering. 

[boots60]

All rapists regardless of ethnic origin should be castrated without anesthetic. 

 

Problem solved.

[Finnaldo]

39 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

The profound incompetence is just staggering. 

 

Incompetency suggests innocence, of simply not being equipped to succeeded or up to the task. What we've seen following Rotherham isn't incompetence, it's an intentional attempt to cover up and erase an entire catalogue of some of the most degenerate and damaging crimes you can inflict on a person. After all we went through with Rotherham, there's absolutely no excuse for the fact so many other cases have remained buried, and now this in Rotherham itself. This action will only lead to further ethnic strife and division in communities, they'll be massive shame when we look back in 20 years at what we allowed.

[urban.spaceman]

11 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

 

Incompetency suggests innocence, of simply not being equipped to succeeded or up to the task. What we've seen following Rotherham isn't incompetence, it's an intentional attempt to cover up and erase an entire catalogue of some of the most degenerate and damaging crimes you can inflict on a person. After all we went through with Rotherham, there's absolutely no excuse for the fact so many other cases have remained buried, and now this in Rotherham itself. This action will only lead to further ethnic strife and division in communities, they'll be massive shame when we look back in 20 years at what we allowed.

Absolutely. Just like the Catholic Church, the ‘higher ups’ put the actual protection of children at the very bottom of the list of priorities and in doing so made themselves complicit. The difference is that you can actually hold Rotherham council to account. 

[Guest Col city fan]

19 hours ago, Buce said:

One of the Rotherham rapists gets chance to be part of his victim’s child’s life because he’s the father and has his ‘Human Rights’. 

 

Speechless. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46368991

[Guest Col city fan]

14 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

 

Incompetency suggests innocence, of simply not being equipped to succeeded or up to the task. What we've seen following Rotherham isn't incompetence, it's an intentional attempt to cover up and erase an entire catalogue of some of the most degenerate and damaging crimes you can inflict on a person. After all we went through with Rotherham, there's absolutely no excuse for the fact so many other cases have remained buried, and now this in Rotherham itself. This action will only lead to further ethnic strife and division in communities, they'll be massive shame when we look back in 20 years at what we allowed.

Good post. This isn’t incompetence. It looks like a persistent cover up, avoidance and purposeful ignorance of what is going on, due to fear of backlash.

Staggering that we have this, in Britain, in 2018

[Countryfox]

19 hours ago, boots60 said:

All rapists regardless of ethnic origin should be castrated by blow lamp without anesthetic. 

 

Problem solved.

Fixed.    Burn the fookers balls off.

[urban.spaceman]

On 28/11/2018 at 16:09, boots60 said:

All rapists regardless of ethnic origin should be castrated without anesthetic. 

 

Problem solved.

I’d love to agree but there’s still so many unsafe convictions out there. And especially with the climate MeToo has created. Just look at Ched Evans. Convicted of rape and serves 2 and a half years before being released, retrialed and found not guilty. And then there was a less high profile student this year who spent years in prison before his defence team were able to prove that text messages sent after the alleged rape by the ‘victim’ proved that the sex was consensual and that she made malicious accusations. Probably the most famous case I can think of is Steven Avery of Making A Murderer; spent 18 years in prison for a sexual assault before it was proven he was nowhere near the incident at all. 

 

Sadly rape and sexual assault cases are very difficult all round and the people that really suffer are those that have their lives ruined over false accusations and wrongful convictions, but more importantly the real victims who must relive their ordeal in in excruciating detail and still might not get justice.

 

Those that have been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, like these 20 cvnts this thread is about, should definitely be castrated though.

[boots60]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

I’d love to agree but there’s still so many unsafe convictions out there. And especially with the climate MeToo has created. Just look at Ched Evans. Convicted of rape and serves 2 and a half years before being released, retrialed and found not guilty. And then there was a less high profile student this year who spent years in prison before his defence team were able to prove that text messages sent after the alleged rape by the ‘victim’ proved that the sex was consensual and that she made malicious accusations. Probably the most famous case I can think of is Steven Avery of Making A Murderer; spent 18 years in prison for a sexual assault before it was proven he was nowhere near the incident at all. 

 

Sadly rape and sexual assault cases are very difficult all round and the people that really suffer are those that have their lives ruined over false accusations and wrongful convictions, but more importantly the real victims who must relive their ordeal in in excruciating detail and still might not get justice.

 

Those that have been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, like these 20 cvnts this thread is about, should definitely be castrated though.

Fair point, I was on my high horse when posting 

 

Revised thought

 

"Those that have been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, like these 20 cvnts this thread is about, should definitely be castrated though"

[Buce]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

I’d love to agree but there’s still so many unsafe convictions out there. And especially with the climate MeToo has created. Just look at Ched Evans. Convicted of rape and serves 2 and a half years before being released, retrialed and found not guilty. And then there was a less high profile student this year who spent years in prison before his defence team were able to prove that text messages sent after the alleged rape by the ‘victim’ proved that the sex was consensual and that she made malicious accusations. Probably the most famous case I can think of is Steven Avery of Making A Murderer; spent 18 years in prison for a sexual assault before it was proven he was nowhere near the incident at all. 

 

Sadly rape and sexual assault cases are very difficult all round and the people that really suffer are those that have their lives ruined over false accusations and wrongful convictions, but more importantly the real victims who must relive their ordeal in in excruciating detail and still might not get justice.

 

Those that have been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, like these 20 cvnts this thread is about, should definitely be castrated though.

 

Just playing Devil's advocate for a moment, were these 20 rapists not also convicted largely on witness testimony like the two cases you mentioned?

[urban.spaceman]

47 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Just playing Devil's advocate for a moment, were these 20 rapists not also convicted largely on witness testimony like the two cases you mentioned?

That’s why due process needs to be followed, proper and thorough police work must go into the cases. With grooming gangs they I’m sure they had lots more evidence like communications or DNA etc.

[Buce]

16 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

That’s why due process needs to be followed, proper and thorough police work must go into the cases. With grooming gangs they I’m sure they had lots more evidence like communications or DNA etc.

 

I doubt that’s the case, actually - certainly as regards DNA - these charges date back years. 

 

The simple fact is, cases of sexual assault almost always rely on witness testimony, which is why conviction rates are so low. 

[urban.spaceman]

38 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I doubt that’s the case, actually - certainly as regards DNA - these charges date back years. 

 

The simple fact is, cases of sexual assault almost always rely on witness testimony, which is why conviction rates are so low. 

Absolutely true (though some cases the DNA of the resulting children could be enough proof, like in Sammy Woodhouse’s case).

 

This is why it’s so important that rape victims are shown the care and support they need as soon as possible so that DNA can be retrieved from an attack.