VAR to be used in PL from 2019

[That_Dude]

15 hours ago, Papasmurf said:

Fine if you're sat at home watching on the TV but going to be absolutely tedious sat in the ground scratching your arse waiting for the ref to finish watching the replay countless times before we're allowed to politely applaud a goal in a controlled orderly fashion.

 

10 mins of added time every week to look forward to.

Yeah, rather lose a game because of an unfair decision and rage about it for about two weeks.

[fuchsntf]

These posts on time wasting are quite poor analyse on any match.

 

Players,surrounding the ref,probably loses 5-7 minutes,in majority of games.

Walls,that push,bawk,and still waste time,even with the refs spray!!

 

Oh something massive,but gets conveniently forgotten with the bias of all fans!!!

Is the down right pathetic cheating of 80% of our playing heroes...

Again we can't be like spoilt brats....there still will be mistakes,errors,and varying opinions on perspectives.

However ,IMO it's better than the present situation. We have the technic..football is watched by people living modern techy lives.

Get on with it!!!

 

Edited 16 November 2018 by fuchsntf

[Hanan96]

I wish the VAR didn't include replay on the pitch, but rather just referee communication with the VAR. Too much time delay and tempo distraction to wait the ref run onto the TV and watch the reply. 

[yorkie1999]

14 hours ago, MadKaw said:

We're into our 2nd season with VAR over here in Aus and like most, I thought it would be better than the sh!t refereeing we had.

Unfortunately, it just moved the sh!t referees into room with a TV.

 

At first we thought it was just teething issues and would improve, it hasn't...

Don't like it......

 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/mark-bosnich-launches-impassioned-var-plea-after-sydney-derby-drama/news-story/91a70a9d89c93e54b32d44a8327d437d

 

But wasn't it the correct decision? 

[Gamble92]

There was alot of moaning during the world cup that too many penalties were being awarded. All it shows is that there is too much cheating going on and this will clear it up.

 

Not to mention the bias of the big clubs will go. Prediction: that top 6 won't be the same once this is introduced. It's nothing like the hold Man United had over referees in the 90s (went something like 8 years without a penalty against them at old Trafford by the way) but its still so prominent in our game and needs to be gone for good.

[yorkie1999]

4 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

There was alot of moaning during the world cup that too many penalties were being awarded. All it shows is that there is too much cheating going on and this will clear it up.

 

Not to mention the bias of the big clubs will go. Prediction: that top 6 won't be the same once this is introduced. It's nothing like the hold Man United had over referees in the 90s (went something like 8 years without a penalty against them at old Trafford by the way) but its still so prominent in our game and needs to be gone for good.

Personally i think we will get more "diving" as any slight contact that results in a possible penalty will be reviewed with greater detail with the "divee" having the knowledge contact was made.

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Hanan96 said:

I wish the VAR didn't include replay on the pitch, but rather just referee communication with the VAR. Too much time delay and tempo distraction to wait the ref run onto the TV and watch the reply. 

But wasting time by players,is ok..

[Gamble92]

40 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Personally i think we will get more "diving" as any slight contact that results in a possible penalty will be reviewed with greater detail with the "divee" having the knowledge contact was made.

Purposely diving should just be a red card now. Or a retrospective ban, regardless of whether it was dealt with at the time or not.

[Hanan96]

6 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

But wasting time by players,is ok..

Because, for that one, there's yet to be solution. 

Taking free kick, throw in, goal kick for too long is easier to judge and booked. But when player were down and pretend to be injury, we are yet to find out way to prove it. 

 

About the ref, there's way like I wrote above so it's possible, although unlikely given how Var work so far

[fuchsntf]

7 hours ago, Hanan96 said:

Because, for that one, there's yet to be solution. 

Taking free kick, throw in, goal kick for too long is easier to judge and booked. But when player were down and pretend to be injury, we are yet to find out way to prove it. 

 

About the ref, there's way like I wrote above so it's possible, although unlikely given how Var work so far

I am mainly thinking of the set pieces..where from foul/corner -jostling!! Hell of a lot more time than VAR loses.

[Guest]

16 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

Personally i think we will get more "diving" as any slight contact that results in a possible penalty will be reviewed with greater detail with the "divee" having the knowledge contact was made.

And hopefully they'll be given a yellow card for trying to subvert the game. they won't dive a second time.

[Guest]

time wasting is an epidemic in Football. Substitutions are ridiculous. Just get off the pitch at the closest point. You're injured then get treatment off the pitch or be forced to wait as long off the pitch as you wasted on the pitch - surely the injury must have been bad to need such a long recovery time.

 

Actual football time - ball in play - seems to be less and less each year. Must be under 45 minutes these days.

[jamesmilner]

The Premier league were down Holmes Park last week testing and training all involved with a few U18's games . They'll keep this up with all Prem teams until its introduced . Went well . 

Of course its not perfect but blatant wrongs will be put right and surely that's needed ?

[yorkie1999]

41 minutes ago, FIF said:

And hopefully they'll be given a yellow card for trying to subvert the game. they won't dive a second time.

No, my point is that, if a player has the ball in the box, 90% of the time he'll be trying to shoot, if he feels a slight tap he'll still go for goal and ride the slight challenge( unless his name is Raheem) because the chances are the ref won't see it anyway and the better option is to shoot. With VAR, they can zoom right in and can review a slight tap from a defender in far greater detail, the attacker knows this and will  feel far more confident in getting a decision for a penalty if he feels a tap,  therefore he is more likely to go over. I still think it should be a challenge based system where if it’s a good challenge you get another one, if not you don’t.

Edited 17 November 2018 by yorkie1999

[yorkie1999]

42 minutes ago, FIF said:

time wasting is an epidemic in Football. Substitutions are ridiculous. Just get off the pitch at the closest point. You're injured then get treatment off the pitch or be forced to wait as long off the pitch as you wasted on the pitch - surely the injury must have been bad to need such a long recovery time.

 

Actual football time - ball in play - seems to be less and less each year. Must be under 45 minutes these days.

Maybe stopping the clock for injuries etc wouldn't be a bad idea, i'm sure the players wouldn't want 3 hour matches anyway.

[Hanan96]

1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

I am mainly thinking of the set pieces..where from foul/corner -jostling!! Hell of a lot more time than VAR loses.

Jostling? You mean the one where player bring the ball to the corner? 

Tricky as well. Imagine with those already wasting time and tempo disruption, now you have more. 

[Izzy]

I'm probably as old skool and traditional as they come but I'm all for VAR.

 

The game is so quick these days that the officials have got no chance really unless they have some help.

 

I'm sure they'll be teething troubles and it won't be perfect, but hopefully it will eliminate the howlers and decisions that ultimately cost teams points and league positions.

[fuchsntf]

21 minutes ago, Hanan96 said:

Jostling? You mean the one where player bring the ball to the corner? 

Tricky as well. Imagine with those already wasting time and tempo disruption, now you have more. 

No when players are being repetitively warned by the ref,at corners /set pieces holding tugging,pushing,or just being a total pain in the ass.

I have noticed over the years,where players deliberately push not because of the normal argey-bargey,but to a final waste time!!

 

Something for me that is getting desperate the authorities have to now cut out,and that's the holding and pushing at corners,not even facing the kicker,

Holding ,or pushing for seconds the opponent...

Thats cheating,by the players,the team,the manager,the ref,the authorities,who ignore it!! Then once every 50 matches blow up for

It..like City vs W.ham title year!!  There should be 3-4 penalties everymatch,until the penny drops..

I hate it...

[lildave3]

So much of football is spent out of play, it baffles me when people complain about the ‘flow of the game’

[Hanan96]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

No when players are being repetitively warned by the ref,at corners /set pieces holding tugging,pushing,or just being a total pain in the ass.

I have noticed over the years,where players deliberately push not because of the normal argey-bargey,but to a final waste time!!

 

Something for me that is getting desperate the authorities have to now cut out,and that's the holding and pushing at corners,not even facing the kicker,

Holding ,or pushing for seconds the opponent...

Thats cheating,by the players,the team,the manager,the ref,the authorities,who ignore it!! Then once every 50 matches blow up for

It..like City vs W.ham title year!!  There should be 3-4 penalties everymatch,until the penny drops..

I hate it...

Aye get your point mate. The ref need to penalise those harsher, no player will be affraid to do that just with warning as caution!