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Grebfromgrebland

Grebfromgrebland

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56 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Is anyone really surprised at the blatant market manipulation?

 

As others have said, it's not about the money, it's about the power and getting off on it.

It's also about money. These guys are money obsessed. If it's not making money it's of zero value.

 

This is recent what he did in his first stint as president too. Manipulate the markets to make billions and billins.

 

The problem is that he also wants world domination..

leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

It's also about money. These guys are money obsessed. If it's not making money it's of zero value.

 

This is recent what he did in his first stint as president too. Manipulate the markets to make billions and billins.

 

The problem is that he also wants world domination..

Yeah, but the money is but a tool for the overall objective of power over people.

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grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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Oh wow...omg...woah...whaddya know, the markets rebounded, what a shock..... Good news for all those sh1tting their knickers about their pensions but the consequence of your freakouts will be orangeman laying claim to THE GREATEST MARKET BOUNCE WE HAVE EVER SEEN EVER THE GREATEST. 

Zear0

Zear0

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1 minute ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Oh wow...omg...woah...whaddya know, the markets rebounded, what a shock..... Good news for all those sh1tting their knickers about their pensions but the consequence of your freakouts will be orangeman laying claim to THE GREATEST MARKET BOUNCE WE HAVE EVER SEEN EVER THE GREATEST. 

Sleepy Joe never made a move that raised the markets by this much in a day. 

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Mike Oxlong

Mike Oxlong

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I wish I had the balls to chuck a shed load of money at the rebound and realise the profit when the market has bounced reasonably upwards but I’m too much of a melt to take a reasonably safe short term risk. 

grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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24 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

I wish I had the balls to chuck a shed load of money at the rebound and realise the profit when the market has bounced reasonably upwards but I’m too much of a melt to take a reasonably safe short term risk. 

Do appreciate that but this one was so obvious!! All the needless panicking and posturing about paper pension losses were always hysterical. Reading back at some of the comments on here from Friday, almost feel sorry for those poor schmucks. You were given an insider trading tip on the eve of a new ISA year. Literally handed a money tree.

Mike Oxlong

Mike Oxlong

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2 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Do appreciate that but this one was so obvious!! All the needless panicking and posturing about paper pension losses were always hysterical. Reading back at some of the comments on here from Friday, almost feel sorry for those poor schmucks. You were given an insider trading tip on the eve of a new ISA year. Literally handed a money tree.

Yeah, I know it was obvious. That's why I hate my pea sized cajones 

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bmt

bmt

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2 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Do appreciate that but this one was so obvious!! All the needless panicking and posturing about paper pension losses were always hysterical. Reading back at some of the comments on here from Friday, almost feel sorry for those poor schmucks. You were given an insider trading tip on the eve of a new ISA year. Literally handed a money tree.

Agree with the main point but there will (in my opinion) be long term losses from this to people's pensions, which I can understand, given the nature of how pensions work, pissing people off. 

 

When the markets went down there is fiduciary duty of asset owners and asset managers to derisk their portfolios to reduce the amount of the potential future losses they are happy to take. Doing this reduces their capacity to fully realise the upside. I work for an asset manager (with primarily pension fund clients) and while I've not got access to day to day performance I'd be very surprised if any of our funds haven't made a net loss over the past 6 or 7 days.

grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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8 minutes ago, bmt said:

Agree with the main point but there will (in my opinion) be long term losses from this to people's pensions, which I can understand, given the nature of how pensions work, pissing people off. 

 

When the markets went down there is fiduciary duty of asset owners and asset managers to derisk their portfolios to reduce the amount of the potential future losses they are happy to take. Doing this reduces their capacity to fully realise the upside. I work for an asset manager (with primarily pension fund clients) and while I've not got access to day to day performance I'd be very surprised if any of our funds haven't made a net loss over the past 6 or 7 days.

Yeh good point, have you seen stop losses triggered to a large extent? I can only comment on mine where there's been an immaterial equity percentage sell down. Bonds were and still are crazy

bmt

bmt

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16 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Yeh good point, have you seen stop losses triggered to a large extent? I can only comment on mine where there's been an immaterial equity percentage sell down. Bonds were and still are crazy

Not really my sector but as a long only equity asset manager, with long term investment horizons, I'm not sure we use them. They're more stock specific and investment thesis-driven, but will sell off reactively if the risk of holding a stock goes above the percieved long term benefit. Probably the worst type of asset management in such a circumstance. Will update when I see the next performance figures

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Lako42

Lako42

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2 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

Market is tanking again today.

 

Up and down more than a pornstar.

This is why time in the market is more important than timing the market. 

Raj

Raj

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On 10/04/2025 at 15:26, grobyfox1990 said:

Yeh good point, have you seen stop losses triggered to a large extent? I can only comment on mine where there's been an immaterial equity percentage sell down. Bonds were and still are crazy

 

On 10/04/2025 at 15:45, bmt said:

Not really my sector but as a long only equity asset manager, with long term investment horizons, I'm not sure we use them. They're more stock specific and investment thesis-driven, but will sell off reactively if the risk of holding a stock goes above the percieved long term benefit. Probably the worst type of asset management in such a circumstance. Will update when I see the next performance figures

You boys in the financial sector innit?

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