Languages

[Izzy]

4 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Spanish

Dos San Miguel pour favour 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

4 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Dos San Miguel pour favour 

Lo siento, amigo mío, pero no soy camarero ni miembro del personal del bar. Sin ofender pero por favor fucckoffo senor gingero basstardo

[Dr The Singh]

I got a C at English Language

[Wolfox]

I describe myself as better than ‘get by’ in French…. I have Swiss French family and my Mum lives there.  I also went to University in Limoges for 6 months in my early twenties 

 

I even managed to interview French customers in Paris using my French last March and got COVID for my troubles!

 

Language needs to be kept alive…. Practice whenever you can and don’t be afraid to make mistakes…. Just get yourself understood…. You get so much more out of your visit to a country if you make an effort 

[Webbo]

10 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Lo siento, amigo mío, pero no soy camarero ni miembro del personal del bar. Sin ofender pero por favor fucckoffo senor gingero basstardo

No estoy.

[Vacamion]

3 minutes ago, Webbo said:

No estoy.

 

You sure about that? 

 

Do they not use "ser" to describe roles in life?

 

"Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan" (in the song La Bamba).

 

 

I stand to be corrected.  My Spanish is fairly rusty.   

 

 

[Webbo]

Just now, Vacamion said:

 

You sure about that? 

 

Do they not use "ser" to describe roles in life?

 

"Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan" (in the song La Bamba).

 

 

I stand to be corrected.  My Spanish is fairly rusty.   

 

 

You're probably more qualified to know than me but I was taught that Ser was for permenant conditions like nationality and Estar was for temporary conditions like jobs. Again I'm sure you know better than me, Im only got grade 2 GCSE. 

[Guest the fox]

11 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

 

Is French taught in school in Algeria? Obviously with its history I didn’t know if that’s something that was carried over with independence. 
 

It’s interesting you bring up learning it a lot through TV (with some at school as well) I know that’s been brought up as a tool alongside actually learning the language through more dedicated resources, but I’ve known a lot of folks who English is a second language and a lot of them said they learnt through TV, but I’d have no idea where I’d start with that avenue! Do you just pick up words you recognise and begin to fit it’s function? Kind of trial and error?

People know, there isn't really something called "independence" today. 132 years of colonization will leave a mark. Most of the people who were born before the 60's were illiterate. A few went to other countries to study, some managed to learn in French-controlled schools, and the lucky few managed to pick-up some Arabic studying in the masques that survived.

 

French is taught in elementary schools (3rd year and above). In middle school and highschool. English starts in the first year of middle school.

 

There is a lot of quality shows in English so it helps . What I understood about learning English is, your mind registers voices and subtitles. If you have 10 different sentences, but they share 1 simple word in common (like the word "yes") your mind will make the connection and registers the word. You collect a sizeable amount of simple words, so when you have 5 sentences with all the simple words except 1 difficult word, your mind will use subtitles to fill the blank. And the more you learn words, the easier it gets to learn new words. It's like momentum, the more you learn, the faster you pick up on new words.

 

Start with basic shows with clear subtitles because slangs and dialects will make it harder. Try and learn a language that's similar to your native language. If you speak English, try French. If you learn French, try Spanish. And so on. 

 

Edited 29 August 2020 by the fox

[fuchsntf]

48 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

You sure about that? 

 

Do they not use "ser" to describe roles in life?

 

"Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan" (in the song La Bamba).

 

 

I stand to be corrected.  My Spanish is fairly rusty.   

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Webbo said:

You're probably more qualified to know than me but I was taught that Ser was for permenant conditions like nationality and Estar was for temporary conditions like jobs. Again I'm sure you know better than me, Im only got grade 2 GCSE. 

Jobs/occupation is seen has permanent ,its what your are..Soy (ser)....

But I am Presently unemployed...actualamente Estoy desempleado

 

[fuchsntf]

11 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

I got a C at English Language

There wasnt enough Letters in the alphabet, for my grade... 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

No estoy.

 

1 hour ago, Vacamion said:

You sure about that? 

Do they not use "ser" to describe roles in life?

 

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

You're probably more qualified to know than me but I was taught that Ser was for permenant conditions like nationality and Estar was for temporary conditions like jobs. Again I'm sure you know better than me, Im only got grade 2 GCSE. 

 

16 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Jobs/occupation is seen has permanent ,its what your are..Soy (ser)....

But I am Presently unemployed...actualamente Estoy desempleado

I was told 'soy' is permanent, so 'soy Ingles' I Am English

And 'estoy' was temporary, so 'estoy bien' I Am Fine 

 

Then again my Spanish is very, very limited and I make it up as I go along !!!

[fuchsntf]

1 minute ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

 

 

I was told 'soy' is permanent, so 'soy Ingles' I Am English

And 'estoy' was temporary, so 'estoy bien' I Am Fine 

 

Then again my Spanish is very, very limited and I make it up as I go along !!!

Buen chico illegaras lejos....

[fuchsntf]

28 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

 

Jobs/occupation is seen has permanent ,its what your are..Soy (ser)....

But I am Presently unemployed...actualamente Estoy desempleado

 

Then again to confuse some, add..tener....Tengo hambre...

[FerrisBueller]

Can sort of get by reading French, at least get the gist.

 

Currently learning Danish via Duolingo and a very enthusiastic other half. Actually getting on quite well with it, moving there in two weeks and hope to be fluent in a few years.

 

Can also sing the Spanish (Portuguese?) bit in ‘Sun King’ by The Beatles, that counts right?

[Guest Electric Yetis]

My mum was a French teacher and she lived there for a while. Instead of using this valuable resource I shunned any opportunity to learn.

Now would love to learn another language but still have no interest in French.

[Vacamion]

7 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

 

Jobs/occupation is seen has permanent ,its what your are..Soy (ser)....

But I am Presently unemployed...actualamente Estoy desempleado

 

 

Fuchsntf, whilst you are in helpful problem-solving mode, I would appreciate your input into one of the thorniest dilemmas of the age:

 

"die Nutella" oder "das Nutella"  ?

 

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, Vacamion said:

 

Fuchsntf, whilst you are in helpful problem-solving mode, I would appreciate your input into one of the thorniest dilemmas of the age:

 

"die Nutella" oder "das Nutella"  ?

 

 

Something I learnt years ago,from my Deutsche-lehre & then German friends....which Now One can find on google...

 

 

DER Brotaufstrich, DIE Nuss-Nougat-Creme und DAS leckerste Frühstück!

nutella ist ein im Markenregister eingetragenes Fantasiewort. Entscheide also selbst, welchen Artikel du vor nutella setzt.“

[Vacamion]

1 minute ago, fuchsntf said:

Something I learnt years ago,from my Deutsche-lehre & then German friends....which Now One can find on google...

 

 

DER Brotaufstrich, DIE Nuss-Nougat-Creme und DAS leckerste Frühstück!

nutella ist ein im Markenregister eingetragenes Fantasiewort. Entscheide also selbst, welchen Artikel du vor nutella setzt.“

 

Also DAS Wort, deshalb DAS Nutella...  

[The Blur]

I am bit biased as I am deaf and a British Sign Language (BSL) user but I would recommend learning BSL.    Without appearing to be disrespectful to other languages which I am sure all are worthy pursuits in their own right,  I feel in the general people are more likely to meet deaf people in the everyday life than a person of a specfic nationality so there may be immediate reward in learning BSL.   It is also an unique language to learn as you would use your hands instead of speaking but I do get for some,  the thrill may be mastering the pronunciations or making the connection between similar spoken languages.    

 

Lastly,  of course it would benefit deaf population if more people know BSL-  I am not saying that all learners need to be able to hold a conversation about Rwanda's nuclear energy policy or whatever but the likes of simple hello,  do you want the receipt with that or god,  the weather is shit again at a grocery store would do wonders for an average deaf person's day.   

Edited 30 August 2020 by The Blur

[Guest worth_the_wait]

Got 'O' level french.

 

I always hoped to be able to say "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir?" to some beautiful french brunette.

 

Never got the chance unfortunately ..........  

[fuchsntf]

5 hours ago, worth_the_wait said:

Got 'O' level french.

 

I always hoped to be able to say "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir?" to some beautiful french brunette.

 

Never got the chance unfortunately ..........  

The craic is...to get The French Brünette to ask you......

When you have more experience, you'll start to understand...