Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 35 minutes ago, DanDare said: That's got to be the most stupid excuse for not sacking a totally inept manager I've ever heard. Unless the fans come up with a viable alternative we just keep him, no matter what? How good does the candidate have to be to be better than Rogers? Do we judge them on number of sideways passes or % possession in own half? Just out of interest can you name Burnley's new manager and the supporter who chose him. What? an unknown manager whose transformed a team without having to waste millions? Can't happen here though can it? Not if you listen to the Rogers PR machine So Chris Davies should be our next manager then? He has the passion, he got carded after the full time whistle! Calmness and careful decision making is now required, if Top sacks him, fine, if he doesn’t, fine.
HighPeakFox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: So Chris Davies should be our next manager then? He has the passion, he got carded after the full time whistle! Calmness and careful decision making is now required, if Top sacks him, fine, if he doesn’t, fine. I thank you for being an oasis of quietness and thought. 1 1
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Players really do get off shockingly lightly Yes, tactics and individual coaching is on Brendan and his staff, but blimey, the players are not radio controller mannequins, they have full autonomy on the pitch, they need to shoulder blame too. Player summary Barnes looked like a competition winner Vardy was garbage KDH was overawed by the occasion Youri was doing what Youri does recently, I.e.; not much Maddison, Fofana, JJ, Evans, maybe Lookman, a bit better than the rest, everyone else meh 4
DanDare Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 10 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: I think you’ve completely misunderstood what I’m saying. I’m saying the single most important factor in if you sack a manager is can you get a better one? If yes, then go and get that better manager, if no, then don’t get rid of what you have. If we want to be challenging for top six and winning trophies, I think that’s everyone’s expectations for the club right now? How about we judge a manager on what they’ve won? You judge what you like, how you like pal. We may have had one of our greatest days a year ago when winning the FA cup...but that's history. The up to date news is we are looking boring and clueless and totally predictable and one dimensional. I'm judging him on that and the fact he refuses to accept it isn't something worth changing. As for there not being any better managers out there...there's clearly non with better PR, but you can't surely believe there's no one who can improve on our style of walking the ball around our own half. You could probably delve into the conference and see more drive and commitment. Tell you what tho' let's see how he approaches the last few league games now we have nothing to lose and nothing to play for, then reassess. Perhaps he'll even try playing our best players in their best positions, just to see if that might work ie Lookman on the left, Madders at 10 and KDH central in front of back 4 driving the team forward as opposed to sideways or backwards. Not gonna hold my breath and not sure how I'd feel if we suddenly turned into a team that could have challenged for top 6. 2
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said: I thank you for being an oasis of quietness and thought. Then I went and spoilt it with a call for player accountability too.
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 7 hours ago, Bayfox said: They sacked him because it was going south rapidly. Infact I'd have sacked him in Nov/Dec the CL saved him. We aren't in danger of going down unless we start next season in taster peeler style. The money men/ Susan might not like it but 1 game a week next season may benefit us. Yes and it will be the same turgid outdated football tactics and pig headed refusal to accept that he got anything wrong. I and I'm sure I'm not alone dread next season if he's still in charge.
jmono84 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 7 hours ago, Webbo said: Excuse me, were we playing Plymouth Argyle? No we were playing a top European side, believe it or not, they were trying to win too. If we didn't attack as much as you'd like, it was because they defended well. We made their defending a lot lot easier than it should have been. Annoying thing is I knew when they went 1 up we wouldn’t create anything. It seems that’s what most of the complaints on here are after the game, you can lose a game but to lose it in that fashion is unacceptable. Either the players couldn’t be arsed or even they knew BR’s tactics wouldn’t break them down so just went through the motions until the final whistle. I don’t blame them in a way, imagine trying to play in Roma’s final third when their block is so low with all their players behind the ball and we insist on playing passing football when it really isn’t on. We need something else because we’re so predictable and easy to defend against. Was really a pathetic performance and it was either the lack of quality from the players or BR’s tactics. I think it’s both, BR wants these guys to play like a budget Man C. I still can’t believe we finished that game with our 3 CB’s in the same formation at the end.
DanDare Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 14 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: So Chris Davies should be our next manager then? He has the passion, he got carded after the full time whistle! Calmness and careful decision making is now required, if Top sacks him, fine, if he doesn’t, fine. If that's your idea of a smart arse comment and the best reasoning for being one. Good for you if you feel smug.
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 2 minutes ago, DanDare said: If that's your idea of a smart arse comment and the best reasoning for being one. Good for you if you feel smug. Well if you being naught but a naysayer makes you feel good, then go you! I would rather deal with actual suggestions rather than irate discourse. I do agree we lack drive and commitment, but before defaulting blame to the manager or any individual, I would rather look at all things that could be in involved.... (.....and then sack the manager )
Tommy Fresh Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 15 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Players really do get off shockingly lightly Yes, tactics and individual coaching is on Brendan and his staff, but blimey, the players are not radio controller mannequins, they have full autonomy on the pitch, they need to shoulder blame too. Player summary Barnes looked like a competition winner Vardy was garbage KDH was overawed by the occasion Youri was doing what Youri does recently, I.e.; not much Maddison, Fofana, JJ, Evans, maybe Lookman, a bit better than the rest, everyone else meh I think you could argue the players should take more of the grief for a one off game here and there, if they have made mistakes or not taken chances etc. However it isn't just a one off game, the style of play is passive, tactically we look naive and he doesn't seem to know how or want to address it. 1
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Well if you being naught but a naysayer makes you feel good, then go you! I would rather deal with actual suggestions rather than irate discourse. I do agree we lack drive and commitment, but before defaulting blame to the manager or any individual, I would rather look at all things that could be in involved.... (.....and then sack the manager ) ....then I fear you're in the wrong place, friend. Reactionary is the name of the game here. I would say to join us in Gen Chat again but that's not that much better.
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Just now, Tommy Fresh said: I think you could argue the players should take more of the grief for a one off game here and there, if they have made mistakes or not taken chances etc. However it isn't just a one off game, the style of play is passive, tactically we look naive and he doesn't seem to know how or want to address it. Thats a fair point. As suggested by (Lord) Brendan, can you coach aggression into Daniel Amartey? Can you make want to win the ball?
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: ....then I fear you're in the wrong place, friend. Reactionary is the name of the game here. I would say to join us in Gen Chat again but that's not that much better. Tbh, I should know better, after a loss such reactions are too be expected, I just need to not bite/read the forum, during these (testing) times 1
Guest ttfn Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Thats a fair point. As suggested by (Lord) Brendan, can you coach aggression into Daniel Amartey? Can you make want to win the ball? Rodgers has been here 3 years now, he’s had £150m to spend in that time and he has chosen not to supplement the squad with aggressive players, other than Fofana. The lack of aggression is not a bug, it’s a feature. Edit: To be fair he has also brought through KDH. Edited 6 May 2022 by ttfn
honeybradger Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 (edited) My biggest worry for a rebuild is that I don't trust Rodgers' vision for the team or judgement of players. I just can't see what he sees in Barnes currently that is making him build the forward line around him week in week out since the start of the season. This is coming at the expense of our strikers that need service that Barnes isnt supplying and our RW position where we've shoehorned Maddison into for most of the season despite him being our best player and deserving to play in his best position. He dropped our top scorer and most on form player from our second best ever season to play him as well and our play in the final third as well as iheanacho's form has suffered from that decision, for me when a player wins you a trophy it would be a wise decision to believe in his ability from then on and build the team around him, not drop him. Also his signing and favouritism of Perez when we were screaming for a quality RW option still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Edited 6 May 2022 by honeybradger 1
Sir Shep Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 He delivered us the FA cup and for that alone I will always look upon his time here fondly. Perhaps if we could go back to how we played then, then great, but we won't it seems sadly. Anyway, who made the deal with the devil? Deliver us the FA cup and we can be shite for all time after!
DanDare Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Well if you being naught but a naysayer makes you feel good, then go you! I would rather deal with actual suggestions rather than irate discourse. I do agree we lack drive and commitment, but before defaulting blame to the manager or any individual, I would rather look at all things that could be in involved.... (.....and then sack the manager ) So you've got your opinion on Rogers, well guess what popeye, ive got mine and no condescending comments gonna change it. Clear for you? You should get together with my ex mother in law. Now that would be a real battle for who can have the last word
Tommy Fresh Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Thats a fair point. As suggested by (Lord) Brendan, can you coach aggression into Daniel Amartey? Can you make want to win the ball? He's been here for 3 full seasons now, if he's identified players such as Amartey not being aggressive enough why hasn't he recruited to resolve the issue. Also the aggression point is weak, you don't need to be aggressive, you just need to be positive and attack a ball which is coachable particularly for set pieces.
norwichfox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 my opinion is after this non season where we performed well in a competition (which never existed before this season) we entered by tamely losing a really important European game a management change is necessary at season end before transfer window opens. Major drawback is the cost of parting with Rodgers and those he would take with him.
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: He's been here for 3 full seasons now, if he's identified players such as Amartey not being aggressive enough why hasn't he recruited to resolve the issue. Also the aggression point is weak, you don't need to be aggressive, you just need to be positive and attack a ball which is coachable particularly for set pieces. We only have so much money, the two highlighted areas sound like they are same problem.
Dahnsouff Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 8 minutes ago, DanDare said: So you've got your opinion on Rogers, well guess what popeye, ive got mine and no condescending comments gonna change it. Clear for you? You should get together with my ex mother in law. Now that would be a real battle for who can have the last word I get you Olive Oil
Happy Fox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 6 minutes ago, norwichfox said: my opinion is after this non season where we performed well in a competition (which never existed before this season) we entered by tamely losing a really important European game a management change is necessary at season end before transfer window opens. Major drawback is the cost of parting with Rodgers and those he would take with him. I imagine it will be easier now that we haven’t qualified for Europe. 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Just now, Dahnsouff said: We only have so much money, the two highlighted areas sound like they are same problem. But if it's such an issue he's had enough budget over the time he's been here to identify it. Aggression and positivity aren't the same but okay. Interested to know your thoughts on his young team comments?
Popular Post foxfanazer Posted 6 May 2022 Popular Post Posted 6 May 2022 Even the staunchest backer of Brendan must be struggling now The excuses are no longer there and we're suffering from his play style and lack of motivation in the squad. We played last night as if it was a end of season midtable league game 8
SafewayFox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 When you wake up and still have the same frustrations it’s pretty annoying isn’t it. I can hold my hand up and say I’ve been Rodgers out for some time but happy to be proven wrong as that would mean that Leicester are performing and most importantly learning from the same continued mistakes/flaws. A comment that I do want to throw out there is the suggestion that we as fans can’t want a manager out without naming a ready made replacement. Did any of us suggest Claudio and look what happened there? I’m pretty sure that Liverpool fans weren’t waving Klopp in banners/flags before he joined. Could name many more successful appointments recently that weren’t ideas directly from fans so can that very awful excuse please be put to bed?
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