How green is LCFC?

[Grebfromgrebland]

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

270 mile round trip on mostly motorway in the winter. There would have to be a long stop for a recharge at some point which would make the day very long. 

If you had access to even a 3 pin plug at your destination you'd be fine as long as you were parked up for about 6-8 hours.

 

If you're concerned about the reliability of charging stations then getting a Tesla is your only real option. 

 

Fast chargers would mean you only have to stop / charge for about 20 minutes to half hour max if you couldn't charge at work

Edited 6 February 2022 by Grebfromgrebland

[Out Foxed]

who gives a ****

 

ask the question to the companies that actually pollute the shit out of the world like BP and Bayer

[Claridge]

Couldn’t care less how green we are as long as we beat forest 

[purpleronnie]

3 hours ago, Claridge said:

Couldn’t care less how green we are as long as we beat forest 

Good job because destroying forest isn't very green.

[Claridge]

3 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

Good job because destroying forest isn't very green.

Greenest club ever, barely snapped a twig

[Vardinio'sCat]

On 06/02/2022 at 09:38, Chocolate Teapot said:

And what you'd find is lots of chargers are out of service when you get to them (or used if they are working as most sites only have 2). I'm sure Bjorn Nyland would tell me its really simple though and dishonest for me to claim that.

 

About 10% are out of action at any one time, as far as the latest reports I have seen, which is absolutely unacceptable, although we should differentiate between rapid chargers and sad old trickle chargers when we talk about faulty ones.

 

I'm pleased to say that the woeful, out of date, Chademo optimised, Ecotricity motorway network has been taken over by Gridserve, who are rapidly installing modern and reliable 150kw chargers to replace the old ones. I saw the new ones at South Mimms the other day. That network was an absolute disgrace, and I can entirely understand the huge frustration they caused.

 

To my mind they were a clear sign that the alleged govt enthusiasm for the tech was greenwashing par excellence. Thankfully things are improving, although the subsidies seem to be dropping every 5 minutes.

 

Do you charge at home yourself? It is far tougher if you can't, I'm more than happy to admit.

Edited 22 February 2022 by Vardinio'sCat

[Vardinio'sCat]

On 06/02/2022 at 08:16, Spudulike said:

270 mile round trip on mostly motorway in the winter. There would have to be a long stop for a recharge at some point which would make the day very long. 

 

Unless you are prepared to shell out a lot of money for something like a Tesla, or can find an amazing lease deal, I would suggest you wait for now.

 

They are not for for people doing long-range high speed work quite yet, although charging speeds and range are improving. The latest 800v cars can charge pretty quick, but finding chargers that can throw 200kw plus down a cable right now is difficult.

 

If I understand you correctly, you are doing over 1000 miles a week, maybe 40k miles a year, so you are not a typical driver but your situation is not unusual. If you are paying for you own fuel, there are huge savings to be made by home charging if you have off road parking, but the tech is not cheap enough yet, at least in the UK.

Edited 22 February 2022 by Vardinio'sCat

[Spudulike]

43 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

Unless you are prepared to shell out a lot of money for something like a Tesla, or can find an amazing lease deal, I would suggest you wait for now.

 

They are not for for people doing long-range high speed work quite yet, although charging speeds and range are improving. The latest 800v cars can charge pretty quick, but finding chargers that can throw 200kw plus down a cable right now is difficult.

 

If I understand you correctly, you are doing over 1000 miles a week, maybe 40k miles a year, so you are not a typical driver but your situation is not unusual. If you are paying for you own fuel, there are huge savings to be made by home charging if you have off road parking, but the tech is not cheap enough yet, at least in the UK.

My 270 mile round trip is just for home matches. The rest of my mileage is mostly local so an EV would be fine for that. I would use the train for football if it wasn't so outrageously expensive and unreliable. 

[Wymsey]

Can imagine a lot of food waste from any unused burgers, meat etc.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Build a train station right near the ground and they'd instantly improve the matchday co2 emissions.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

9 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

About 10% are out of action at any one time, as far as the latest reports I have seen, which is absolutely unacceptable, although we should differentiate between rapid chargers and sad old trickle chargers when we talk about faulty ones.

 

I'm pleased to say that the woeful, out of date, Chademo optimised, Ecotricity motorway network has been taken over by Gridserve, who are rapidly installing modern and reliable 150kw chargers to replace the old ones. I saw the new ones at South Mimms the other day. That network was an absolute disgrace, and I can entirely understand the huge frustration they caused.

 

To my mind they were a clear sign that the alleged govt enthusiasm for the tech was greenwashing par excellence. Thankfully things are improving, although the subsidies seem to be dropping every 5 minutes.

 

Do you charge at home yourself? It is far tougher if you can't, I'm more than happy to admit.

I live in London so no chance of installing one at home. Fortunately I've got 4 within 10 mins walking distance but it's the same story. Networks down and they're often being used - can't leave it on charge overnight so its tricky. Very much first world problems but it's meant to be very easy for everyone and it's really not even when you live in an area with a lot of chargers around.

 

Good news about gridserve. I've never found one of those that work.

Edited 23 February 2022 by Chocolate Teapot