PROVIDE YOUR THOUGHTS ON SINGING SECTION TRIALS

[FoxesDeb]

So many people are going to completely lose their shit when our old faded plastic seats are replaced, given how attached to them they seem to be 

[BigMicky]

9 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

So you don't think the club offering a small section of the ground to encourage people who want to vocally support the team isn't 'right or good or a positive thing'? Even after Top has asked us to up our vocal support? 

Not in the way it's being  manufactured at present, no its not a good thing.

[BigMicky]

8 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

If the club were making the same area family friendly, or into an easily accessible area for those who struggle to manage steps, do you think you'd feel as strongly? 

Why are you changing the discussion? They aren't doing that so it's irrelevant. Happy to engage on that topic if it ever occurs. 

[BigMicky]

3 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

So many people are going to completely lose their shit when our old faded plastic seats are replaced, given how attached to them they seem to be 

And this is an example in its true form. Mocking people who may not want to move as they currently like the seat that they have sat in potentially for years. And you wonder why there is negativity towards it. 

[Buzzell]

3 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

So many people are going to completely lose their shit when our old faded plastic seats are replaced, given how attached to them they seem to be 

What about loyal people that have sat in SK1 since the ground was built, that now have to risk losing there seat to someone else because of the singing section?

 

The club have handled this poorly imo. They could have gave ST holders in SK1 2-3 days to renew, after that your seat is up for grabs for anyone who’s applied to move to the singing section. Now I’ve gotta hope and pray that I get through to the ticket office on the 7th to renew my Grandads, brothers and my ticket, but it’s first come first serve so I still might lose our seats. Wear I sit suits my Grandad to the ground, right next to the turnstile, on the end of the row, now we risk having to mess about to suit his needs again.

[CosbehFox]

Just now, buzzer_b said:

What about loyal people that have sat in SK1 since the ground was built, that now have to risk losing there seat to someone else because of the singing section?

 

The club have handled this poorly imo. They could have gave ST holders in SK1 2-3 days to renew, after that your seat is up for grabs for anyone who’s applied to move to the singing section. Now I’ve gotta hope and pray that I get through to the ticket office on the 7th to renew my Grandads, brothers and my ticket, but it’s first come first serve so I still might lose our seats. Wear I sit suits my Grandad to the ground, right next to the turnstile, on the end of the row, now we risk having to mess about to suit his needs again.

Have you contacted the club already? I would in your circumstance given your Grandad. 

[Mike the Metal Ed]

8 minutes ago, BigMicky said:

So you think forcing an atmosphere is the answer? Do you look at Palace and think brilliant I want to be part of that? 

UFS are not Palace though . I'd never pass the uniform requirements to be in the section of they were.

 

I just want to stand and sing at the football in a way that bothers the least possible people, and it's been a long enough road to manage even that. I'm proud of what the lads in UFS have achieved to that end.

[Buzzell]

4 minutes ago, BigMicky said:

And this is an example in its true form. Mocking people who may not want to move as they currently like the seat that they have sat in potentially for years. And you wonder why there is negativity towards it. 

It’s funny that fans think this is a great move when they don’t understand it from another point of view. Nobody is denying that helping improve the atmosphere at the KP is a bad thing, but the way the club have handled this situation takes the piss. Give people in SK1 priority over renewing their seat instead of making it a ‘first come, first serve’ situation. 

[Buzzell]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

Have you contacted the club already? I would in your circumstance given your Grandad. 

I have but I want to stay where I am. I don’t want to be shifted in a different area. We can’t go too high and don’t want to go much lower to where I sit. My seat is perfect to my Grandads needs so moving is such a big deal to me as we would need to find somewhere that’s near enough the same area as where we sit now which won’t be easy.

[An Away Move]

This thread just goes to prove how much people hate change. Even if it’s positive. I feel for those who have to be reluctantly relocated but the atmosphere at the KP has been awful and we need a positive change. This initiative is that positive change. End of. In a couple of seasons people will be saying what a good move it was. 

Edited 19 May 2022 by An Away Move

[An Away Move]

5 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

I have but I want to stay where I am. I don’t want to be shifted in a different area. We can’t go too high and don’t want to go much lower to where I sit. My seat is perfect to my Grandads needs so moving is such a big deal to me as we would need to find somewhere that’s near enough the same area as where we sit now which won’t be easy.

I know you must feel miffed and concerned about your grandad, but there has to be other seats in the ground that are suitable for his needs. You shouldn’t have to pay more to sit in another area though. 
It’s just bad luck that this positive change for the greater good causes you short term stress and inconvenience. 

[FoxesDeb]

7 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

It’s funny that fans think this is a great move when they don’t understand it from another point of view. Nobody is denying that helping improve the atmosphere at the KP is a bad thing, but the way the club have handled this situation takes the piss. Give people in SK1 priority over renewing their seat instead of making it a ‘first come, first serve’ situation. 

I may have misunderstood, but I thought renewals did come before those who want to relocate in to the area? I'm also not sure I understand you correctly, you want to stay in your seats but not be part of the singing section? Have the club not offered you similarly accessible seats elsewhere in the ground? Fwiw I've also moved over the years due to children, so I do get that it's not ideal for everyone, but the support for the team has to come first imo, it's never going to suit everyone, just like when we moved from Filbert Street 

[walkerleeds]

1 hour ago, An Away Move said:

This thread just goes to prove how much people hate change. Even if it’s positive. I feel for those who have to reluctantly be located but the atmosphere at the KP has been awful and we need a positive change. This initiative is that positive change. End of. In a couple of seasons people will be saying what a good move it was. 

 

Some of the responses are fascinating and are a pretty decent reflection of the society as a whole. We find change really uncomfortable and matched with high anxieties with life in general, it's not a great recipe.

Edited 19 May 2022 by walkerleeds

[FoxesDeb]

24 minutes ago, BigMicky said:

Not in the way it's being  manufactured at present, no its not a good thing.

So what would you do instead? 

22 minutes ago, BigMicky said:

Why are you changing the discussion? They aren't doing that so it's irrelevant. Happy to engage on that topic if it ever occurs. 

Just interested in what people think is an acceptable reason to move seats, that's all 

[Unabomber]

17 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

It’s funny that fans think this is a great move when they don’t understand it from another point of view. Nobody is denying that helping improve the atmosphere at the KP is a bad thing, but the way the club have handled this situation takes the piss. Give people in SK1 priority over renewing their seat instead of making it a ‘first come, first serve’ situation. 

The problem with that is what if every season ticket holder in the section renewed but didn’t want to sing etc? That would mean no singing section which is the opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

[Buzzell]

8 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

I know you must feel miffed and concerned about your grandad, but there has to be other seats in the ground that are suitable for his needs. You shouldn’t have to pay more to sit in another area though. 
It’s just bad luck that this positive change for the greater good causes you short term stress and inconvenience. 

Ohh no you are right. I have been informed that the club will not charge us for moving, it’s just a nightmare of moving because it’s very suitable to us and also we get on with everyone around us. I also have nothing against making the atmosphere better, in fact I’m hoping to stay where we are and join in with the singing section. I just doubt i will be able to claim our seats because of the ‘first come first serve’ situation.

[Buzzell]

2 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

The problem with that is what if every season ticket holder in the section renewed but didn’t want to sing etc? That would mean no singing section which is the opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

I understand that but people have been there since the ground was built. I can understand from both sides but for me it’s a nightmare because I want to stay there.

[Spudulike]

25 minutes ago, BigMicky said:

So you think forcing an atmosphere is the answer? Do you look at Palace and think brilliant I want to be part of that? 

It's really not about trying to force an atmosphere. It's about opening up an area to allow a large group of like minded individuals to gather and support the team in a way they can't in the current stadium format. 

 

The club are not telling anyone they are unwelcome and are doing their best to accommodate everyone to best suit their needs. The stadium is big enough for all. 

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

I understand that but people have been there since the ground was built. I can understand from both sides but for me it’s a nightmare because I want to stay there.

Yeah I understand. I guess there was always going to be situations like yours wherever they chose for the section. Hope you get sorted. 

[Buzzell]

23 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

I may have misunderstood, but I thought renewals did come before those who want to relocate in to the area? I'm also not sure I understand you correctly, you want to stay in your seats but not be part of the singing section? Have the club not offered you similarly accessible seats elsewhere in the ground? Fwiw I've also moved over the years due to children, so I do get that it's not ideal for everyone, but the support for the team has to come first imo, it's never going to suit everyone, just like when we moved from Filbert Street 

As far as I’m aware you apply to sit in SK1 and have to do this before the end of the month. Then on 7th June you need to ring up and claim your seat/seats on a first come first serve basis to everyone who applied to sit in SK1.

 

I don’t mind sitting in the singing section, in fact I love the fact that the club is moving towards improving the atmosphere of the ground but I love my seat and enjoy the people around me, it suits my grandads needs and more importantly I’ve also saw us lift the title in my seat so I’d be well gutted if I would have to move, even if it was for a better view.

[filbertway]

41 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Have you contacted the club already? I would in your circumstance given your Grandad. 

Easy enough isn't it. Talk to the club like Tommy G did and im sure they'll try and cater to displaced fans as much as possible.

 

Its certainly going to be more beneficial than crying about it on here.

 

This is a positive move, people by nature dont like embracing change, but it happens. Having to move to another area of a ground where the view is excellent wherever you sit is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Especially for something that will hopefully benefit the atmosphere more and more as time passes on

[Guest TamworthFoxes]

6 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

As far as I’m aware you apply to sit in SK1 and have to do this before the end of the month. Then on 7th June you need to ring up and claim your seat/seats on a first come first serve basis to everyone who applied to sit in SK1.

 

I don’t mind sitting in the singing section, in fact I love the fact that the club is moving towards improving the atmosphere of the ground but I love my seat and enjoy the people around me, it suits my grandads needs and more importantly I’ve also saw us lift the title in my seat so I’d be well gutted if I would have to move, even if it was for a better view.

I imagine the idea is that most people will be standing in the singing section and the stewards will turn a blind eye as it’s the singing section?

Might be beneficial to move if your grandad won’t be able to stand, especially if someone joins the section in the seats in front and wants to stand for 90 minutes?

[grobyfox1990]

1 hour ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

UFS are not Palace though . I'd never pass the uniform requirements to be in the section of they were.

 

I just want to stand and sing at the football in a way that bothers the least possible people, and it's been a long enough road to manage even that. I'm proud of what the lads in UFS have achieved to that end.

Out of very keen interest, do you know the 'requirements' you need to pass to sit with the ULTRAAAS at palace? Is there an initiation or anything?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

6 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Out of very keen interest, do you know the 'requirements' you need to pass to sit with the ULTRAAAS at palace? Is there an initiation or anything?

No idea. Wear black coats, contribute one song stolen from the Bundesliga as verbatim as possible?

[Finnaldo]

1 hour ago, BigMicky said:

So you think forcing an atmosphere is the answer? Do you look at Palace and think brilliant I want to be part of that? 

 

1 hour ago, BigMicky said:

And this is an example in its true form. Mocking people who may not want to move as they currently like the seat that they have sat in potentially for years. And you wonder why there is negativity towards it. 

So on one hand it’s ‘forcing an atmosphere’ to make a standing section, but then it’s also not right to block folk’s views? So what exactly is the solution? Do people just stand and sing wherever they are in the ground and fvck off anyone behind them? 
 

You seem to be contributing a lot of complaints without many solutions in terms of atmosphere, isn’t the whole idea of a Kop ultimately supposed to be ‘the singing section’?