Gary Lineker steps down from MOTD

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, David Oldfields Gate said:

The German government in the 1930s were Nazis, it is possible and expected to extract inference from a statement, especially one using that period of time as the reference.

I agree his use of language himself was exceptionally poor, he could of made so much more progress on the issue by using less of a loaded statement!

 

 

That's not what Jon said. Jon meant Braverman's language and for the record Jon is an extremely entrenched Conservative voter who is agreeing with Lineker. As he should. 

 

It wasn't a "loaded statement", there was no ambiguity, he was comparing Braverman's rhetoric to that of the early rhetoric of the Nazi party when they began their policy of Othering. 

 

Non-far right political commentators and voices have been talking about the worrying rise of fascist rhetoric from increasingly authoritarian politicians and media outlets in America and Europe for the last couple of decades. Lineker is not the first to make these comparisons and he won't be the last until people start waking up en masse and realise we do have a problem. 

 

We will sleepwalk in to another emergence of fascism if people don't start crossing the political divide to say enough is enough. This country, under a Conservative prime minister, proudly stood against fascism in Europe last time. Labour and Tory voters alike should be appalled to see this kind of rhetoric return. 

 

Edited 11 March 2023 by Finnegan

[Mr Weller 2]

Just now, Lcfc82 said:

People will still watch it

Only for curiosity-but beyond that, I doubt it. It would be like watching YouTube videos. No commentators, no pundits, no interviews.

[ealingfox]

So here's to you, Gary Lineker,

With your free time help make Brendan go,

Woah o ohhh

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

9 hours ago, SecretPro said:

That's disingenuous. Lineker did not mention the Holocaust, he mentioned the dialogue of 1930s Germany. The Government have tried to tie his comments to the Holocaust, but thats typical Spin. Anybody with half a brain should see through that. 

 

It’s really important to remember Gary Linekers tweet was factually accurate; Germany in 1933 was a functioning democracy. Nationalism was on the rise and consistently described immigration as an ‘invasion’ and claimed it would collapse the country.

Thanks, however I would raise an eyebrow that "Germany in 1933 was a functioning democracy".

 

 

[whitlock]

[Guest Lcfc82]

2 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Only for curiosity-but beyond that, I doubt it. It would be like watching YouTube videos. No commentators, no pundits, no interviews.

I record MOTD and fast forward through everything apart from the match action. So having no pundits won’t make any difference to me.

 

There is going to be commentary they are using the PL world feed one

Edited 11 March 2023 by Lcfc82

[Mr Weller 2]

Just now, Finnegan said:

 

That's not what Jon said. Jon meant Braverman's language and for the record Jon is an extremely entrenched Conservative voter who is agreeing with Lineker. As he should. 

 

It wasn't a "loaded statement", there was no ambiguity, he was comparing Braverman's rhetoric to that of early rhetoric of the Nazi party when they began their policy of Othering. 

 

Non-far right politician commentators and voices have been talking about the worrying rise of fascist rhetoric from increasingly authoritarian politicians and media outlets in America and Europe for the last couple of decades. Lineker is not the first to make these comparisons and he won't be the last until people start waking up en masse and realise we do have a problem. 

 

We will sleepwalk in to another emergence of fascism if people don't start crossing the political divide to say enough is enough. This country, under a Conservative prime minister, proudly stood against fascism in Europe last time. Labour and Tory voters alike should be appalled to see this kind of rhetoric return. 

Arguably Trump was a modern fascist-don’t expect the new fascists to come complete with jackboots and Hitler moustaches.

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

That's not what Jon said. Jon meant Braverman's language and for the record Jon is an extremely entrenched Conservative voter who is agreeing with Lineker. As he should. 

 

It wasn't a "loaded statement", there was no ambiguity, he was comparing Braverman's rhetoric to that of the early rhetoric of the Nazi party when they began their policy of Othering. 

 

Non-far right political commentators and voices have been talking about the worrying rise of fascist rhetoric from increasingly authoritarian politicians and media outlets in America and Europe for the last couple of decades. Lineker is not the first to make these comparisons and he won't be the last until people start waking up en masse and realise we do have a problem. 

 

We will sleepwalk in to another emergence of fascism if people don't start crossing the political divide to say enough is enough. This country, under a Conservative prime minister, proudly stood against fascism in Europe last time. Labour and Tory voters alike should be appalled to see this kind of rhetoric return. 

 

Thanks. It is an odd time when all my tory mates and all my socialist mates both think we are heading into authoritarian global governance yes both think more extremes are the answer.

 

 

[Mr Weller 2]

1 minute ago, Lcfc82 said:

I record MOTD and fast forward through everything apart from the match action. So having no pundits won’t make any difference to me.

 

There is going to be commentary they are using the PL world feed one

That’s not a commentary anyone wants or recognises 

[Trav Le Bleu]

21 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

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, he likened them to fascists and they responded with fascism. 

Exactly. It's not even like he was using the BBC as a platform for saying what he said.

 

I hope Royal Mail never find out my opinions.

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

10 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

Maybe you should read what he actually tweeted.

Thanks, I did. The original poster asked everyone's thoughts, which i gave.

Up the city!

 

[Finnegan]

Just now, Mr Weller 2 said:

Arguably Trump was a modern fascist-don’t expect the new fascists to come complete with jackboots and Hitler moustaches.

 

There's no arguably about it, Donald Trump is a fascist. 

 

This is exactly right. There are too many people that equate the term to mean literal 1940s Nazis from the war films, holocaust and all. 

[Greg2607]

11 hours ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

Look into the history of the publishing group further.....

 

Its basically the mirror group with loads of local publications and then later down the line the Express sold into it.

 

To say the Leicester Mercury is a right wing rang is boarding on the best joke in a decade.

Well if you want to look deeper it used to be owned by DMGT.  which is the daily mail.  

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

13 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

massive problem with the premise of this. 
Firstly, the government have removed the majority of “legitimate” means of entry into the country since 2010. 
 

Secondly, by the governments own guidelines, turning up on the beach in a boat is NOT illegal and it is a legitimate means of arrival. 
 

There is not a single law in this country as far as I’m aware that deems it unlawful entry, the governments own website advises people to arrive first, then make a claim. 
 

This idea we are fighting an “illegal invasion” it utter nonsense. It’s not illegal, it’s not unlawful. The government just keep saying it is because they know people are too lazy to actually check. 
 

 

Apologies perhaps the correct term is irregular entry. 

[Craig]

2 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

That’s not a commentary anyone wants or recognises 

[Guest Col city fan]

Putting all politics aside, I imagine watching MOTD without Gary will be very different. For me, it’ll be the same as Top Gear without Clarkson and his side-kicks.

ie actually nowhere near as enjoyable.

Sometimes a synergy DOES exist between things. Lineker and MOTD go together like beans on toast.

[Mr Weller 2]

1 minute ago, Greg2607 said:

Well if you want to look deeper it used to be owned by DMGT.  which is the daily mail.  

The Mercury is the Daily Fail in disguise

[Daggers]

They did have the best uniforms though, you have to give them that.

 

And the best looking tank.

 

And the best lines in Allo Allo.

[StanSP]

It's just all a bit of a farce, isn't it? Should never have got this far and only the Tories can be blamed. 

 

They don't like it when you speak out against them. So they try and divide those that support that person/group. 

 

The Tories are the reason this country has absolutely gone to shit and this whole Lineker situation is a fantastic reason why. Amongst several others. The people in the party are slimy, smarmy, corrupt, rude, abusive, divisive, immoral. They lack so much humanity. 

 

 

[Mr Weller 2]

Just now, Daggers said:

They did have the best uniforms though, you have to give them that.

 

And the best looking tank.

 

And the best lines in Allo Allo.

Erm…if you like that sort of thing

[Guest Col city fan]

Just now, StanSP said:

It's just all a bit of a farce, isn't it? Should never have got this far and only the Tories can be blamed. 

 

They don't like it when you speak out against them. So they try and divide those that support that person/group. 

 

The Tories are the reason this country has absolutely gone to shit and this whole Lineker situation is a fantastic reason why. Amongst several others. The people in the party are slimy, smarmy, corrupt, rude, abusive, divisive, immoral. They lack so much humanity. 

 

 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Daggers said:

They did have the best uniforms though, you have to give them that.

 

And the best looking tank.

 

And the best lines in Allo Allo.

Hugo Boss was a...well, boss, in that regard. Style.

[Mr Weller 2]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

It's just all a bit of a farce, isn't it? Should never have got this far and only the Tories can be blamed. 

 

They don't like it when you speak out against them. So they try and divide those that support that person/group. 

 

The Tories are the reason this country has absolutely gone to shit and this whole Lineker situation is a fantastic reason why. Amongst several others. The people in the party are slimy, smarmy, corrupt, rude, abusive, divisive, immoral. They lack so much humanity. 

 

 

Top post. Their vile bigotry is deeply disturbing 

[Daggers]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Hugo Boss was a...well, boss, in that regard. Style.

And your Adidas.

 

If they upped their PR game they could really win some converts.

[Voll Blau]

4 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Well if you want to look deeper it used to be owned by DMGT.  which is the daily mail.  

And which also had no bearing on the editorial policies of the local newspapers it owned.