Vestergaard

[Mickyblueeyes]

Best defender Jannick

[Chelmofox]

12 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

He's 33 so unless he goes to Saudi or back to Denmark, he isn't getting another offer from a Champ club, so now we find out whether his ridiculous contract here is more important to him than knowing hes actively preventing a huge portion of money going toward saving the football club. We are likely 12 months from administration, hopefully he accepts his time here is done and agrees a deal to move on and accept a lower wage for the sake of the club. 

Is that final years pay more important than this football club to him? I could understand if he was marginally on the high end of pay, but for league 1, these players are going to be actively holding the club back from any progress. 

Its a club that has frozen him out several times, and the fans have got on his back many times. He will not give a stuff.

[Stadt]

Maybe it's cope but some of the highly paid c unts with deals going beyond this summer will finally leave because despite all the evidence to the contrary.. they'll think League 1 is beneath them 

[Kinowe Soorie]

With my basic footballing knowledge… playing a high line with such slow defenders, is a monumental recipe for disaster.

Having the ability to run, should be a prerequisite, for any potential new signing!

[Kinowe Soorie]

Just now, Stadt said:

Maybe it's cope but some of the highly paid c unts with deals going beyond this summer will finally leave because despite all the evidence to the contrary.. they'll think League 1 is beneath them 

We can only hope for that my boy.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Maybe it's cope but some of the highly paid c unts with deals going beyond this summer will finally leave because despite all the evidence to the contrary.. they'll think League 1 is beneath them 

Prepare to be shocked for those with 1 year left in particular. I expect many of them to ride it out in some fashion until the Jan window and will cling on to their salaries for dear life.

Edited 22 April by Chelmofox

[cityfanlee23]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

Prepare to be shocked for those with 1 year left in particular. I expect many of them to ride it out in some fashion until the Jan window and will cling on to their salaries for dear life.

I think you're right especially with Vestergaard being 33, a year doesn't make a huge difference to him at this point. He would earn 1/3 of what he's on here to secure a 2 year contract in Denmark, or just ride it out here, get a 1 year deal back home and cash in. 
Might be different if he was 23, but I can see purely from a financial perspective him hanging on. I think a lot of us probably would if we were not LCFC fans, I'd like to think i'd do the right thing if my wage was going to contribute to collapsing a club, but you never know until you're in that situation. 

[Stadt]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Prepare to be shocked for those with 1 year left in particular. I expect many of them to ride it out in some fashion until the Jan window and will cling on to their salaries for dear life.

We're in a financial pickle, their agents will probably thinking we might have liquidity issues and payments might be late or not happen at all. A 2 year deal back in Denmark or whatever might appeal rather than sticking it out in this miserable environment.

 

Thomas is the one that will be here no matter what, hopefully Sheffield United come in with a 500k bid for Choudhury, **** him off. Reid will probably stay for one more year (slagged the deal off at the time and some defended it ffs). Kristiansen, Faes, Coulibaly, Souttar etc will get moves.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We're in a financial pickle, their agents will probably thinking we might have liquidity issues and payments might be late or not happen at all. A 2 year deal back in Denmark or whatever might appeal rather than sticking it out in this miserable environment.

 

Thomas is the one that will be here no matter what, hopefully Sheffield United come in with a 500k bid for Choudhury, **** him off. Reid will probably stay for one more year (slagged the deal off at the time and some defended it ffs). Kristiansen, Faes, Coulibaly, Souttar etc will get moves.

Hence why i said January. If you are 33, its probably worth the risk.

 

Don't expect these d1ckheads to care about anything.

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Hence why i said January. If you are 33, its probably worth the risk.

 

Don't expect these d1ckheads to care about anything.

Probably.

 

He's already had something like £12,000,000 out of the club, you might think the **** would finally **** off but he is absolutely shameless.

[Chelmofox]

Just now, Stadt said:

Probably.

 

He's already had something like £12,000,000 out of the club, you might think the **** would finally **** off but he is absolutely shameless.

Just makes me want to vomit. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Hopefully some Danish club loan/buy him on a free in the summer. 
 

Again, like Winks and Stiffy though…we’ll likely be supplementing % of wages.

[shen]

On 19/04/2026 at 03:19, filbertway said:

Tbf to the guy today, he seemed like he was genuinely trying his best.

 

Its league one on big money thanks to Enzo or Danish prem. Similar levels but he'll earn more with us

 

Enzo was already gone or on his way out when Vestergaard was extended. Tbf he was good in our promotion season and we had little or no money to get a quality centerback in anyway. Nelson has proved this season he wasn't the answer - and that's in a division lower.  The issue was extending Vestergaard's deal by three years which was insane and proves the club have learnt nothing from their past mistakes.

 

1 hour ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

A major start in the decline signing him.

He wasn't the reason we started to decline. It might've coincided with our downturn in fortunes, but he rarely figured under Rodgers anyway which was bizarre as he was the manager that wanted him. We signed Faes as Fofana's replacement and we paid a king's salary to Bertrand who was never available, so effectively deadwood during his entire stay. 
At least Vestergaard has been available and contributed meaningfully to our promotion back to the PL.

 

5 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Probably.

 

He's already had something like £12,000,000 out of the club, you might think the **** would finally **** off but he is absolutely shameless.

Like all the other players on astronomical wages - is it really their fault for negotiating good deals for themselves? In a cutthroat business and short career paths like elite football usually is, that's what any reasonable person would do.
If were tarring Vestergaard with this, then we might do the same to Thomas and Choudhury (whose careers were enabled by this club) and all the other overpaid players over the last ten years.

[shen]

11 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Hopefully some Danish club loan/buy him on a free in the summer. 
 

Again, like Winks and Stiffy though…we’ll likely be supplementing % of wages.

Yeah, maybe that's the best hope. That he'll want to move back with his family to Denmark. Not unrealistic, but it would definitely cost is in severance pay of sorts.

[desertfox2]

37 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Maybe it's cope but some of the highly paid c unts with deals going beyond this summer will finally leave because despite all the evidence to the contrary.. they'll think League 1 is beneath them 

I admire the optimism but the main reason we are in this mess is that so many of them thought that even the Championship was beneath them but couldn't find anyone to take them so they basically downed tools whilst taking a huge wage from us. That isn't going to change now they are League 1 players, if anything it will get worse and more toxic. Nobody is taking the players we want to get rid of for the same or more money in a league that they feel they should be playing in. Saudi are reducing their spend on a lot of sports and they are only allowed a few foreign players in the squad anyway. If you were managing a rich Saudi team and could only sign a handful of foreign players would you sign Vestergaard? One of the teams didn't even register Darwin Nunez having spent a fortune on him because they needed to register Benzema and didn't have the squad space. No Saudi team is signing Vestergaard or any of the players we want to get rid of nor is a Premier league side and anyone thinking he or they will do the honorable thing and leave to save the club money is in cuckoo land.

[Chelmofox]

3 minutes ago, shen said:

Enzo was already gone or on his way out when Vestergaard was extended. Tbf he was good in our promotion season and we had little or no money to get a quality centerback in anyway. Nelson has proved this season he wasn't the answer - and that's in a division lower.  The issue was extending Vestergaard's deal by three years which was insane and proves the club have learnt nothing from their past mistakes.

 

He wasn't the reason we started to decline. It might've coincided with our downturn in fortunes, but he rarely figured under Rodgers anyway which was bizarre as he was the manager that wanted him. We signed Faes as Fofana's replacement and we paid a king's salary to Bertrand who was never available, so effectively deadwood during his entire stay. 
At least Vestergaard has been available and contributed meaningfully to our promotion back to the PL.

 

Like all the other players on astronomical wages - is it really their fault for negotiating good deals for themselves? In a cutthroat business and short career paths like elite football usually is, that's what any reasonable person would do.
If were tarring Vestergaard with this, then we might do the same to Thomas and Choudhury (whose careers were enabled by this club) and all the other overpaid players over the last ten years.

A couple of things really bug me here.

 

First, Vestergaard wasnt really that good in our promotion season. He largely worked because teams parked the bus against us, but his defensive frailties were obvious and many of us on here very fearful of us offering him a deal in the Premier League. 2nd half of the Enzo season when teams had us sussed - he wasnt very good at all.

 

Also, 'Nelson wasn't the answer'. Nelson struggled this season for sure, but our setup put so much pressure on the defence / keeper with no coach willing to change it. No single CB has stood out, but Nelson is no worse than any of those we have spent big money on. Why then is it ok for Vestergaard to get chance after chance after chance and be an abject failure, yet Nelson gets a % of a season? Nelson is 22 and still has learning to do, I am convinced has a higher ceiling. He is exactly the sort of player we should be looking to retain. 

 

Lastly, I don't recall meaningful contributions from Vestergaard. Just being available becuase noone else wants him is not good enough.

[foxfanazer]

6"6 gormless shite

[Richmondfox]

6 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

A couple of things really bug me here.

 

First, Vestergaard wasnt really that good in our promotion season. He largely worked because teams parked the bus against us, but his defensive frailties were obvious and many of us on here very fearful of us offering him a deal in the Premier League. 2nd half of the Enzo season when teams had us sussed - he wasnt very good at all.

 

Also, 'Nelson wasn't the answer'. Nelson struggled this season for sure, but our setup put so much pressure on the defence / keeper with no coach willing to change it. No single CB has stood out, but Nelson is no worse than any of those we have spent big money on. Why then is it ok for Vestergaard to get chance after chance after chance and be an abject failure, yet Nelson gets a % of a season? Nelson is 22 and still has learning to do, I am convinced has a higher ceiling. He is exactly the sort of player we should be looking to retain. 

 

Lastly, I don't recall meaningful contributions from Vestergaard. Just being available becuase noone else wants him is not good enough.

Passing the ball out of the back quicker was the solution to teams parking the bus.  These clowns thought it was slowing down even more.  He has zero pace, isn't strong.  What gets me the most of the cope from fans that he's the best passer.  That is redundant if that pass is always to Ayew or Daka, it's failed for the last two season so of course every manager and the players have kept it up.  I can't wait till all of the back line and coaches are gone so we never have to see the walking football, ignore players to the do the fake kick, roll back get pressed and cause a counter attack.

 

With the new signings they should not just look for character but I think IQ testing should be high up the list.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Passing the ball out of the back quicker was the solution to teams parking the bus.  These clowns thought it was slowing down even more.  He has zero pace, isn't strong.  What gets me the most of the cope from fans that he's the best passer.  That is redundant if that pass is always to Ayew or Daka, it's failed for the last two season so of course every manager and the players have kept it up.  I can't wait till all of the back line and coaches are gone so we never have to see the walking football, ignore players to the do the fake kick, roll back get pressed and cause a counter attack.

 

With the new signings they should not just look for character but I think IQ testing should be high up the list.

Just don't give the test to Fatawu - i think we would be shocked with the result.

[shen]

17 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

A couple of things really bug me here.

 

First, Vestergaard wasnt really that good in our promotion season. He largely worked because teams parked the bus against us, but his defensive frailties were obvious and many of us on here very fearful of us offering him a deal in the Premier League. 2nd half of the Enzo season when teams had us sussed - he wasnt very good at all.

I didn't say he was 'good', I said he 'contributed meaningfully'. In Maresca's system, he was quite effective in setting up the play. His weakness was often exposed by us pushing up so high and as it played out in front of us, it looked even worse. The reality was that he and his teammates recovered most of the time, stats will back this up. It was calculated risk from Maresca I suppose, but to us fans, it messes with our heart rhythms!

 

17 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Also, 'Nelson wasn't the answer'. Nelson struggled this season for sure, but our setup put so much pressure on the defence / keeper with no coach willing to change it. No single CB has stood out, but Nelson is no worse than any of those we have spent big money on. Why then is it ok for Vestergaard to get chance after chance after chance and be an abject failure, yet Nelson gets a % of a season? Nelson is 22 and still has learning to do, I am convinced has a higher ceiling. He is exactly the sort of player we should be looking to retain. 

 

Lastly, I don't recall meaningful contributions from Vestergaard. Just being available becuase noone else wants him is not good enough.

Vestergaard doesn't get a free pass, nor am I writing off Nelson. The point I'm making is that we needed cover in defense after promotion as we couldn't afford to get someone of decent quality. A one-year extension would have been fine.
In hindsight, how do you think an even younger Nelson, without his Oxford experience, would've fared in that PL backline after you've seen his performances this season? 
That said, we've often overstated how good our academy prospects are only to mostly be League 1 level at best. Barnes, KDH and Chilwell are exceptions. Choudhury, Thomas, McAteer et al have been more like the norm. So jury is still out on Nelson, but he needs to start showing what he's supposedly capable of soon. Otherwise he's only going to hold us back further.

And finally, being fit and available is absolutely a factor. We've absolutely pi$$ed away money at Bertrand, Praet and Souttar, even Ricardo to an extent. If they're not on the pitch, their value to us is less than zero. At least Vestergaard has kept fit for the most part so our managers had choices. They never did with the aforementioned players. Huge difference in my book.

Edited 22 April by shen

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

So many goals this season have come from him not winning the header, losing the shoulder to shoulder or missing the tackle - I think back to that Wrexham goal where he got shoulder barged off the ball by the smallest player on the pitch. 

 

He's in for a real reality check next season when hes trying to play out on some of the mud baths like Blackpool away. 

[shen]

1 minute ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said:

So many goals this season have come from him not winning the header, losing the shoulder to shoulder or missing the tackle - I think back to that Wrexham goal where he got shoulder barged off the ball by the smallest player on the pitch. 

 

He's in for a real reality check next season when hes trying to play out on some of the mud baths like Blackpool away. 

He's been awful this season, like everyone else really. That play you describe was particularly galling. If it wasn't because Okoli and Nelson were as dreadful or worse, then he wouldn't have come back into the side.

[Stuntman_Mike]

For me this season, he'll just be remembered for being bullied off the ball against Wrexham for their equaliser. 

[Stadt]

59 minutes ago, shen said:

Enzo was already gone or on his way out when Vestergaard was extended. Tbf he was good in our promotion season and we had little or no money to get a quality centerback in anyway. Nelson has proved this season he wasn't the answer - and that's in a division lower.  The issue was extending Vestergaard's deal by three years which was insane and proves the club have learnt nothing from their past mistakes.

 

He wasn't the reason we started to decline. It might've coincided with our downturn in fortunes, but he rarely figured under Rodgers anyway which was bizarre as he was the manager that wanted him. We signed Faes as Fofana's replacement and we paid a king's salary to Bertrand who was never available, so effectively deadwood during his entire stay. 
At least Vestergaard has been available and contributed meaningfully to our promotion back to the PL.

 

Like all the other players on astronomical wages - is it really their fault for negotiating good deals for themselves? In a cutthroat business and short career paths like elite football usually is, that's what any reasonable person would do.
If were tarring Vestergaard with this, then we might do the same to Thomas and Choudhury (whose careers were enabled by this club) and all the other overpaid players over the last ten years.

[shen]

10 minutes ago, Stadt said:

For the record - I never wanted Vestergaard. I always thought he was quite rubbish or useful in niche circumstances at best. He had a decent career in Germany, but the signs were already obvious then.
As a person, he seems fine. I actually think he's a better egg than what people particularly on here seem to think, but he is a flawed player who we overpaid in fees and wages by a massive amount. And frankly, I never felt he was good enough for us. Signing him absolutely signaled to the world that we were on the decline and that our transfer dealings were completely off the mark.

 

But by the same token as the image above insinuates, I think Vestergaard gets far more criticism leveled at him compared to English/British players who in some cases have contributed the square root of nothing (i.e. Bertrand and Souttar) or been arguably worse than Vestergaard (Coady, Ward, Choudhury, Thomas) and cost the club dearly doing so. I suppose that's the crux of it. If you level criticism at Vestergaard for earning too much compared to his quality on the pitch, why single him out when the squad is full of these players?

And for the record, since my nationality is brought into this, Kristiansen can sod off as well.