Cooper - OUT

[guest123]

48 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

The point is, Potter plays a non dissimilar style of play top Maresca (When he was with us) and people moaned about his patient style, so why go for such a manager to only reap the same results?

Maybe Potter has changed, but its not an ideal footprint for a new manager.

we won the league

[glenparva boy]

Ranieri - OUT!  Puel - OUT! Shakespeare - OUT! Rodgers - OUT! Maresca - OUT!  Same tune, different words.  Pity we can't resurrect Matt Gillies who served us loyally for fifteen seasons before, he too, was OUT!  Nothing like watching a blame game unfold.   

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, guest123 said:

we won the league

We won the championship

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

Who do we bring in for those 4 games? 

How long is it going to take a new manager to assess the team and bring in their style of play? 

Those 4 games are gone either way. 

To a level better than we're being managed now? 2 days? Maybe 3

 

We have no style of play other than being an ultra defensive team who can't defend. His in game management and substitutions are laughable and I don't think he has the respect of the players. We owe this man nothing and he's shown already he's not up to the job

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, glenparva boy said:

Ranieri - OUT!  Puel - OUT! Shakespeare - OUT! Rodgers - OUT! Maresca - OUT!  Same tune, different words.  Pity we can't resurrect Matt Gillies who served us loyally for fifteen seasons before, he too, was OUT!  Nothing like watching a blame game unfold.   

So what would you suggest? Because the calls for Rodgers out were valid but the club waited too long. Let's just make the same mistake again and then get fisted by the EFL next season 

 

[Heskey2011]

Myopic goons, yobs in glasses?

[The Doctor]

6 minutes ago, glenparva boy said:

Ranieri - OUT!  Puel - OUT! Shakespeare - OUT! Rodgers - OUT! Maresca - OUT!  Same tune, different words.  Pity we can't resurrect Matt Gillies who served us loyally for fifteen seasons before, he too, was OUT!  Nothing like watching a blame game unfold.   

and with the exception of Maresca, who was head hunted, and dare I say Puel (Tielemans was the missing part of the puzzle for his side imo), they were right to go when they did 

[coolhandfox]

12 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

Who do we bring in for those 4 games? 

How long is it going to take a new manager to assess the team and bring in their style of play? 

Those 4 games are gone either way. 

Puel on a run of 1 win in 7, we sack Puel, Rodger comes in 26 of February, managed his first game on 3rd of March and win 4 out of 5.

 

Shakespeare on a run of 1 win in 7, sacked 17th of October, we Puel comes in on the 25th of October wins 4 and Draw 2 of the next 7.

 

Just from our own history it's possible to have a quick change on fortunes with little time on the training ground.

Edited 29 September 2024 by coolhandfox

[guest123]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

We won the championship

which was the league we were in...

 

so in summary, you are saying the idea of Potter needs to go in the bin because some people will moan about him playing a similar style to the last manager who won the league. you know that sounds ridiculous don't you

[FrankieADZ]

would love to know the reasons why we should stick with Cooper, as ive not seen many valid so far

 

as all the stats, performances tactics etc its plain to see hes not the right man

Edited 29 September 2024 by FrankieADZ

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, guest123 said:

which was the league we were in...

 

so in summary, you are saying the idea of Potter needs to go in the bin because some people will moan about him playing a similar style to the last manager who won the league. you know that sounds ridiculous don't you

So you are saying winning the Championship should allow us to set the same expectation when competing in the EPL? Did you not see how many fully expected Maresca to do really badly with our squad in the EPL? You must be trolling.

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

would love to know the reasons why we should stick with Cooper, as ive not seen many valid so far

 

as all the stats, performances tactics etc its plain to see hes not the right man

1) he's a nice guy 

 

2) would be unfair to sack him after 6 games but 10 is fair apparently 

 

3) Top and Rudkin should go first 

 

4) We was in league one 15 years ago

 

5) Results have been better than we expected (3 points from a possible 18)

 

Which of those aren't valid mate? 

[Mike the Metal Ed]

14 minutes ago, glenparva boy said:

Ranieri - OUT!  Puel - OUT! Shakespeare - OUT! Rodgers - OUT! Maresca - OUT!  Same tune, different words.  Pity we can't resurrect Matt Gillies who served us loyally for fifteen seasons before, he too, was OUT!  Nothing like watching a blame game unfold.   

Should never have gotten rid of Tom Bromilow for me. 

 

Do you have a point beyond realising football managers aren't eternal?

 

The people who didn't like Maresca aren't exactly the exact same who think Cooper isn't up to this job, in case it escaped your notice.

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

1) he's a nice guy 

 

2) would be unfair to sack him after 6 games but 10 is fair apparently 

 

3) Top and Rudkin should go first 

 

4) We was in league one 15 years ago

 

5) Results have been better than we expected (3 points from a possible 18)

 

Which of those aren't valid mate? 

they al seem about right about right there

another one i suppose is, we played well yesterday..........

and we've played alot of top 6 teams

 

 

36 ATTEMPTS AT GOAL

[guest123]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

So you are saying winning the Championship should allow us to set the same expectation when competing in the EPL? Did you not see how many fully expected Maresca to do really badly with our squad in the EPL? You must be trolling.

i've not said anything of the sort, i don't need to rewrite what i said as you can still see most last post, saying what you did is ridiculous. i also said ages ago there is many reasons for yay or naying someone, but sayin no because some people will moan because someone plays similar to a manager that won us the league is outright bonkers.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, FrankieADZ said:

they al seem about right about right there

another one i suppose is, we played well yesterday..........

and we've played alot of top 6 teams

 

 

36 ATTEMPTS AT GOAL

Using Arsenal as a justification for sacking Cooper is  kinda silly though…

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Using Arsenal as a justification for sacking Cooper is  kinda silly though…

tbf most who want him out arent, enough before that game to show hes not fit for the job

 

purely pointing out on the arsenal one to ones who think we did well, yeah did well to keep it to 4

[lcfcell]

Simply just how poor he is at making subs is enough for me to want him gone. 
Didn’t make a sub till the 85th!! Minute then makes 4 after the 92nd.

Fatawu & Edouard coming on in the 98th minute  is he trying to humiliate Abdul or something? 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, guest123 said:

i've not said anything of the sort, i don't need to rewrite what i said as you can still see most last post, saying what you did is ridiculous. i also said ages ago there is many reasons for yay or naying someone, but sayin no because some people will moan because someone plays similar to a manager that won us the league is outright bonkers.

You said “we won the league” with I assume Maresca which is obviously true, to which I said “it was the championship” which is also true.

We we’re discussing Potter, who is a bit similar to Maresca, and I made the point that

• Plenty of people were seemingly fed up with Maresca last season due to his patient style
• Plenty of people were also claiming he would be found out in the EPL with this squad (unlike in the Championship)

Therefore it is absolutely not ridiculous.

[sharpylcfc]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Using Arsenal as a justification for sacking Cooper is  kinda silly though…

Ok then if we can't use Arsenal, how about 17 attempts at goal for bottom of table Everton against us at home last week.

[ARTY_FOX]

Genuinely gobsmacked people want to give more time. 

 

Whats been shown to make them think its deserved? I need to know. 

 

Also anyone who's been involved in his hiring needs binning. 

[coolhandfox]

7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Using Arsenal as a justification for sacking Cooper is  kinda silly though…

I agree but you can't swing the Arsenal game as a positive.

 

Our stats for the game were similar to what Bolton managed midweek in the LC.

 

We looked like a plucky League 1 or 2 side in the cup.

Edited 29 September 2024 by coolhandfox

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

The point is, Potter plays a non dissimilar style of play top Maresca (When he was with us) and people moaned about his patient style, so why go for such a manager to only reap the same results?

Maybe Potter has changed, but its not an ideal footprint for a new manager.

 

The club have demonstrated repeatedly that that is the style of play the owners want. The current manager has openly said as such. We built a squad to play this way. 

 

He's just not delivering on it.

 

Unless Top absolutely bottles it and we hire someone Moyes-esque because he thinks we need to, Cooper's replacement will be another technician. 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, sharpylcfc said:

Ok then if we can't use Arsenal, how about 17 attempts at goal for bottom of table Everton against us at home last week.

I am not defending him, but focus should be on games we expect better, not Arsenal. Like you have done.  

[ARTY_FOX]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

You said “we won the league” with I assume Maresca which is obviously true, to which I said “it was the championship” which is also true.

We we’re discussing Potter, who is a bit similar to Maresca, and I made the point that

• Plenty of people were seemingly fed up with Maresca last season due to his patient style
• Plenty of people were also claiming he would be found out in the EPL with this squad (unlike in the Championship)

Therefore it is absolutely not ridiculous.

The same people that got the arse last season about us olaying it about with patience are now screaming keep the ball and pass it every time its launched. 

 

The geriatrics will never be happy. Don't aim to please them and get in Potter.