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What about John Mousinho? He seems to have had a decent start to managerial life at Pompey and there's no prospect of his team going down, despite very limited resources and a rank injury list, having just won promotion. 

 

He seems pragmatic, flexible and appears to be quite articulate. 

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17 hours ago, Royston. said:

:claude:

I would, without a hint of irony, take him in an upstairs recruitment or DoF role. His transfer window in 2018 was the best we've had in years.

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13 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Still want Urs Fischer 

 

Fell apart a bit at the end at Union Berlin but his record was remarkable

 

They finished 8th in the second division before he took over, got them promoted to the Bundesliga for the first time since it formed in 1990 in his first full season.

 

Finished 11th, 7th, 5th, 4th in his 4 season in the Bundesliga. Progressed from Conference League to Europa League to Champions League season on season.

 

Only spent about 100 mil over 5 seasons with only one signing over 10 mil. 

 

In 20/21 lost Andersson, his top scorer of the previous 2 seasons, signed Max Kruse who was top scorer for a season and then lost him to Wolfsburg 18 months later, signed Awoniyi who became top scorer and then also lost him after just one season. Sheraldo Becker was top scorer next and again lost him after one season. So in 4 consecutive seasons the top scorer from the previous season left and each time they kept progressing and finishing higher until it eventually caught up with them. 

 

As well as Kruse they also lost Friedrich (starting CB) in January and Andrich (Starting CM) in the summer of 2021. So they went from 7th to 5th whilst losing 3 key players. 

 

So he took a midtable second division side to the Conference League, Europa League, and Champions League in 5 seasons, finished higher each consecutive season whilst spending minimal amounts and consistently losing key players every season. 

 

His sides don't play particularly pretty football but it is efficient and effective. In 20/21 they had the 4th best defence in the league, 3rd best in 21/22, and when they finished 4th in 22/23 they only conceded 38 goals in 34 games, the joint lowest with Bayern. They play disciplined, rigid, well drilled football.  

I think I remember calling for him around the time that Rodgers appeared on the brink, and it was felt that a combination of the hierarchy not wanting his style of football and the fact that Union were flying made him impossible. 

 

I like the idea, but being unemployed for two years and never managed in England are red flags.

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10 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I think I remember calling for him around the time that Rodgers appeared on the brink, and it was felt that a combination of the hierarchy not wanting his style of football and the fact that Union were flying made him impossible. 

 

I like the idea, but being unemployed for two years and never managed in England are red flags.

I get the point about being unemployed for 2 years but never managing in England shouldn’t be. Lots of examples of managers coming over here and doing fine without any experience in this country. Nuno and Bielsa and more recently Le Bris at Sunderland this season. 

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2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I get the point about being unemployed for 2 years but never managing in England shouldn’t be. Lots of examples of managers coming over here and doing fine without any experience in this country. Nuno and Bielsa and more recently Le Bris at Sunderland this season. 

Nuno had managed Wolves and Spurs before going to Forest, but I take the point. You could also argue that Potter was unemployed for two years before going to West Ham, and we'd all have taken him over RVN.

 

The problem is that our board have probably never heard of him and would burst a blood vessel if they watched Union games under him or saw their xG stats.

 

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1 minute ago, Bilo said:

Nuno had managed Wolves and Spurs before going to Forest, but I take the point. You could also argue that Potter was unemployed for two years before going to West Ham, and we'd all have taken him over RVN.

 

The problem is that our board have probably never heard of him and would burst a blood vessel if they watched Union games under him or saw their xG stats.

 

It’s like when Rodgers was messing it up and there were so many decent foreign managers available who we could get. Fischer, Slot, Hutter and Glasner are ones that I seem to remember. 

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I know they are only betting odds but Rohl has slipped from being odds on at Southampton to 2/1 and Gary O’Neills odds are shortening. I know Rohl has been linked to Leipzig as well so maybe an indication that’s where he is headed?

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2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Not sure that's correct. Enzo turned us down after we sacked Rodgers as wanted to finish the season with Man City. He was always the number one choice.

You’re right that Enzo was initially approached after Rodgers was sacked. But I’m pretty sure I remember reading a piece by a connected journalist (was it Tom Collomosse?) that said Scott Parker was seen as a specialist ‘get-out-of-the-championship’ manager, and was their first choice at the start of the summer?

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4 hours ago, Bilo said:

Slight caveat on Carrick is that he'd have to adapt, and fast, if we got promoted.

 

The data shows that Boro play a slower and intricate style, which is what the club hierarchy wants but is demonstrably unsuccessful for newly promoted sides in the Premier League. 

 

 

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I find this interesting, so the promotion fighting clubs are doing the opposite of whats needed at the top level. Based on this Sheff Utd will do the best out of the promoted clubs next season if promoted.

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8 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

I find this interesting, so the promotion fighting clubs are doing the opposite of whats needed at the top level. Based on this Sheff Utd will do the best out of the promoted clubs next season if promoted.

They played the same way the last time they went up and it didn’t do them any good. 

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8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

They played the same way the last time they went up and it didn’t do them any good. 

I didnt say they will survive.  The picture also still shows them in right box, so they not that fast and direct.

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On 10/04/2025 at 17:50, cityfanlee23 said:


Fully expecting Russell Martin to be our next manager, I quite liked him as a player, he was a bit of a rogue and was a hard hitter, so watching this to get his side. God I hope he has changed his ways if he ends up here though, his football was a snooze-fest. 

 

Just listened to this, thanks for sharing. 

 

Thought he came across really well overall. Haven't previously had a lot of time for him as from what I'd seen in previous interviews he always came across like Rodgers with sound bites. The only red flag for me was when he was asked would he change his approach and he said no, then seemed to go along with Gary's suggestion of tweaking, though it didn't seem like that was at the forefront of his mind. 

 

I think he'd do a decent job given the opportunity here. The squad for me is better than any he's had previously so I think some of the issues he experienced at both Swansea and Southampton wouldn't be so big an issue here. 

 

I wouldn't necessarily champion him for the role, but I think we could do a lot worse. 

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1 hour ago, bigpapagoldy said:

Not taking the piss, but what about Bielsa, the way he had that Leeds side playing was refreshing!!!

Said he doesn't want to manage another English club

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All out of work managers talk well to the media, very easy to talk a good game, completely different once you are appointed and the pressure is on to get results. 

I would rather we appointed a manager based on recent achievements of on basis of good reputation rather than media sound bites or punditry. 

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22 minutes ago, fleshdaddy said:

Would anyone take Maresca back? :ph34r:

If they don’t make the champions league he will be sacked you’d think! I laughed at someone mentioning big ange on here the other day but he looks to be certain to be sacked aswell and where else could he potentially go ?

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On 12/04/2025 at 14:40, Claudio Fannieri said:

All out of work managers talk well to the media, very easy to talk a good game, completely different once you are appointed and the pressure is on to get results. 

I would rather we appointed a manager based on recent achievements of on basis of good reputation rather than media sound bites or punditry. 

Yes. Very easy to sit down and come across well in a soft interview, doubt he'd get the same reaction on here when he says how well we played after a 2-0 defeat.

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