General News Thread

[foxfanazer]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Can't believe you tried to downplay the atrocities he carried out. 

Stan mate.........**** off

[Lionator]

While it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person, extra judicial killings in our prisons are certainly not worth celebrating, 

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Stan mate.........**** off

How do you know his middle name?

[st albans fox]

One step further 

all living hostages handed over to ICRC

 

2000 prisoners/detainees to go home to Gaza/West Bank today 

 

and then it’s the dead hostages which will no doubt take some time. 

 

trump revelling in the limelight. (Is this orchestrated to the level that trump can announce ‘all the living hostages are inside Israel’ during his speech ? ) 

Edited 13 October 2025 by st albans fox

[Trav Le Bleu]

37 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Trump revelling in the limelight. (Is this orchestrated to the level that trump can announce ‘all the living hostages are inside Israel’ during his speech ? ) 

He will descend out of the sky over the Dome of the Rock, wreathed in light, to a fanfare of angelic horns and M-16s.

[Samilktray]

Something quite bizarre about the crowds celebrating the return of these hostages, cant put my finger on exactly what but just seems a bit odd to watch 

[st albans fox]

22 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Something quite bizarre about the crowds celebrating the return of these hostages, cant put my finger on exactly what but just seems a bit odd to watch 

The national trauma surrounding this isn’t something that nearly all westerners can relate to.  Not sure why it seems odd.  Agree that it doesn’t need to be broadcast in such detail but media have chosen to do so (including Al Jazeera). 

 

netenyahu is apparently now travelling to Egypt later.  I’d be tied to trump if I were him.  And how can the Spanish PM bring himself to be in the same room given what he’s said??  The same is true of erdogan and other regional leaders. This is trump trying to bully everyone into agreements.  the visuals could be well worth waiting for. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

 This is trump trying to bully everyone into agreements.  the visuals could be well worth waiting for. 

A case of the end justifying the need?

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

The national trauma surrounding this isn’t something that nearly all westerners can relate to.  Not sure why it seems odd.  Agree that it doesn’t need to be broadcast in such detail but media have chosen to do so (including Al Jazeera). 

 

netenyahu is apparently now travelling to Egypt later.  I’d be tied to trump if I were him.  And how can the Spanish PM bring himself to be in the same room given what he’s said??  The same is true of erdogan and other regional leaders. This is trump trying to bully everyone into agreements.  the visuals could be well worth waiting for. 

 

1 minute ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

A case of the end justifying the need?

Could make a point about a pair of arsonists then acting as firefighters too. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

Could make a point about a pair of arsonists then acting as firefighters too. 

Firebreaks work

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Firebreaks work

They do, even when the ones responsible for starting or stoking that fire then put them up. 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

netenyahu is apparently now travelling to Egypt later.  I’d be tied to trump if I were him.  And how can the Spanish PM bring himself to be in the same room given what he’s said??  The same is true of erdogan and other regional leaders. This is trump trying to bully everyone into agreements.  the visuals could be well worth waiting for. 

Now not going 

excuse that it’s a Jewish holiday this evening 

that’s true but he’s not very religious 

 

I reckon some of the leaders said that if he turned up then they’d not be able to attend. 

[Alf Bentley]

16 hours ago, Lionator said:

While it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person, extra judicial killings in our prisons are certainly not worth celebrating, 

 

Yep. Despicable as Watkins was, in a democratic society, the rule of law should apply - not vigilante killings, even of those proven guilty of awful crimes. And what if someone wrongly convicted were to be murdered by imprisoned vigilantes? Doesn't apply to Watkins, but plenty of others have been wrongly convicted of foul crimes over the years.

 

The two alleged killers have now been charged:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ian-watkins-death-lostprophets-singer-man-charged-wakefield-priosn-b1252604.html

 

Here's food for thought for anyone inclined to celebrate their actions (based on a quick Google News search)....

 

- Alleged killer 1 was serving life for murdering an innocent man. Stabbed him repeatedly while he was lying on the ground in a case of mistaken identity over a drugs/gang feud:

https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/23699846.sven-badzaks-killers-jailed-life-murder/

 

- Alleged killer 2 was serving 23 years for kidnapping a woman unknown to him, holding her prisoner and raping her 5 times:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-46551039

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Could make a point about a pair of arsonists then acting as firefighters too. 

You could also make the point that we, in our green and pleasant land, live in a house made exclusively of glass.

[leicsmac]

19 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

You could also make the point that we, in our green and pleasant land, live in a house made exclusively of glass.

No doubt about that. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Now not going 

excuse that it’s a Jewish holiday this evening 

that’s true but he’s not very religious 

 

I reckon some of the leaders said that if he turned up then they’d not be able to attend. 

Is his arrest warrant still in effect?

[Spudulike]

Can we expect the end of the Palestine marches around Whitehall every weekend now? 

 

What's the next cause for the useful idiots to demonstrate about and pick fights with the police? Is Extinction Rebellion still a thing?

[leicsmac]

35 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Can we expect the end of the Palestine marches around Whitehall every weekend now? 

 

What's the next cause for the useful idiots to demonstrate about and pick fights with the police? Is Extinction Rebellion still a thing?

Depends.

 

Are global average temperatures still rising as fast as biodiversity levels are falling? Are both those with power and without mostly treating it as a low-priority issue at best and flat-out denying there's a problem at worst?

[Spudulike]

Dunno, but I expect that Greta and thousands of others will be at a loose end on Saturdays and will be looking for something else to seek attention about.

[leicsmac]

18 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Dunno, but I expect that Greta and thousands of others will be at a loose end on Saturdays and will be looking for something else to seek attention about.

Fair enough - I wasn't aware that the above matters were firstly something just to "seek attention about" and secondly someone else's problem, as opposed to, you know, everyone's. 

[Tommy G]

Trump making Starmer look like such a pick me clown on the world stage 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Trump making Starmer look like such a pick me clown on the world stage 

A clown with the biggest clown of them all, then. Fitting. 

 

I guess all of us here have the privilege of being able to find it funny. For now, anyway. 

[Tommy G]

30 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

A clown with the biggest clown of them all, then. Fitting. 

 

I guess all of us here have the privilege of being able to find it funny. For now, anyway. 

Didn’t say Trump isn’t a clown, just pointing out how awkward Starmer is on these kind of occasions. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Didn’t say Trump isn’t a clown, just pointing out how awkward Starmer is on these kind of occasions. 

No, he's not a person who can play to a crowd, whether from an inspirational angle or a con artist angle. 

 

But speaking personally, I'd rather there be less of the slick deceptive exponents of realpolitik with all self- interest and no substance in international relations anyway. 

[st albans fox]

8 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Is his arrest warrant still in effect?

Not certain but I doubt Egypt is a signatory 

autocracies generally aren’t keen on that type of thing