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Posted
32 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Too many loose ends there 

primary one being leavitt saying that - I mean you just wouldn’t 

gunman was staying at the hotel - do American hotels have metal detectors on flyers? 
Any reason why didn’t he attend the dinner last spring? 

And yet it happened at a time when Trump needs a distraction and additional fuel for his ballroom fully, in a place that he has had no interest in visiting before now (he's on record as being too thin skinned for the Correspondents Dinner) in a fashion that created a fuss but little in the way of actual general threat. 

 

The tides of coincidence must be very coincidental.

Posted
1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

And yet it happened at a time when Trump needs a distraction and additional fuel for his ballroom fully, in a place that he has had no interest in visiting before now (he's on record as being too thin skinned for the Correspondents Dinner) in a fashion that created a fuss but little in the way of actual general threat. 

 

The tides of coincidence must be very coincidental.

I get that

i just have an aversion to everything being labelled ‘false flag’ and conspiracy 

very few things actually are once the dust has settled 

Posted
7 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I get that

i just have an aversion to everything being labelled ‘false flag’ and conspiracy 

very few things actually are once the dust has settled 

It already seems to be spreading to the idea that the press are in on it.  Are they taking advantage of the situation?  Of course.    Did they arrange it?  No of course not.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Jimmy Kimmel not pulling his punches, then. 

I think he's great. Always enjoy watching his previous nights monologue while eating my cornflakes in the morning

 

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Well, that's all just...

 

*insert misanthropic comment here*

 

 

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We spend more money on military than three countries that are actually at war.

 

That's crazy.

Posted
49 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

We spend more money on military than three countries that are actually at war.

 

That's crazy.

And yet apparently to some it's not enough. 

 

That's pretty crazy too.

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Posted

I try not to make a habit of sharing Guardian articles but as this doesn't seem to be getting any traction anywhere else, here you go:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/27/britain-becoming-soft-target-for-russian-propaganda-says-security-expert

 

I do think we will sit here, hopefully not amongst the still hot ashes of our previous existence, in a few years and look back on this period incredulous at how completely incurious we were as a society about where the information we were being bombarded with actually came from, instead far too often accepting it without question, allowing it to not only underpin our opinions but influence our life choices

 

Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

I try not to make a habit of sharing Guardian articles but as this doesn't seem to be getting any traction anywhere else, here you go:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/27/britain-becoming-soft-target-for-russian-propaganda-says-security-expert

 

I do think we will sit here, hopefully not amongst the still hot ashes of our previous existence, in a few years and look back on this period incredulous at how completely incurious we were as a society about where the information we were being bombarded with actually came from, instead far too often accepting it without question, allowing it to not only underpin our opinions but influence our life choices

 

Unfortunately I don't think this is either a terribly new problem or one that Russia is uniquely responsible for. 

 

There are sadly far too many people, nationality irrelevant, who enjoy the power they have, enjoy abusing the power they have and are both able and willing to spread this kind of misinformation in order to keep doing so. 

 

Either it is addressed or everyone but the purveyors (short term) and everyone including the purveyors (long term) pay the price for decision-making based on something less than empirical fact. 

 

And that price will be at best very high, and at worst, absolute.

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Posted
3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Seems that our new USA ambassador has a loose tongue 

 

how do they find these people!  

He is right though

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Seems that our new USA ambassador has a loose tongue 

 

how do they find these people!  

 

10 minutes ago, Izzy said:

He is right though

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l25qd43nro

 

Yeah, every single word of that is correct and if people feel it's more diplomatic to lie in this case, then they're welcome to that point of view, as erroneous as it may be. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Izzy said:

I think he's great. Always enjoy watching his previous nights monologue while eating my cornflakes in the morning

 

 

 

Try Seth Myers’ “ A Closer Look” . Very funny and acerbic 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l25qd43nro

 

Yeah, every single word of that is correct and if people feel it's more diplomatic to lie in this case, then they're welcome to that point of view, as erroneous as it may be. 

He’s the ambassador to washington

he should be careful about what he says to whom

 

private conversations with colleagues is one thing 

 

the report I read included stuff about Starmer and his future (which was what I considered most questionable)

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

He’s the ambassador to washington

he should be careful about what he says to whom

 

private conversations with colleagues is one thing 

 

the report I read included stuff about Starmer and his future (which was what I considered most questionable)

 

In the same way the current US administration is careful about what they say to everyone, including the UK, no matter the level of politeness towards them?

 

Sorry, if it's not clear at the present time that additional decorum without telling difficult truth gives absolutely no advantage when dealing with that cabal of sociopaths, then I'm not sure when it will be. Turning the other cheek simply isn't going to work here.

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