General News Thread

[Trav Le Bleu]

47 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

FM - give the people what they want. 

 

****ing clueless 

24 hour Love Island, Chicken Tikka Masala Pizza, Kebab-flavour vapes, extra long flumes at leisure pools and 6G data coverage?

 

Dunno, sounds risky.

[st albans fox]

The tax take hike from the increase in fuel costs is unexpected and income that the treasury wouldn’t have counted on.

 

so why can’t reeves give a temporary reduction in fuel duties whilst prices are high and also announce a windfall tax on the fuel companies re their extra profits over this period. 
 

They should have done this weeks ago - their lack of response is the reason why they’re in the position they are with the public. 

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

The UK needs to align and collaborate with someone internationally, and that going to be either the US, the Chinese or the Europeans/Scandinavians/CANAUSNZ collection. 

活着为了什么？

[CrazyKopCorner]

28 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

24 hour Love Island, Chicken Tikka Masala Pizza, Kebab-flavour vapes, extra long flumes at leisure pools and 6G data coverage?

 

Dunno, sounds risky.

Don't forget Vodka and Coke on the NHS - the place will be ****ing bouncing

Edited 11 May by CrazyKopCorner

[CrazyKopCorner]

11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And the private sector doesn't do the above?

 

It's reasonably obvious you have an axe to grind here so go ahead and grind it, but please don't pretend this judgement is anything like objective. 

 

 

And the world has changed, vastly, in the last 10 years. 

 

The UK needs to align and collaborate with someone internationally, and that going to be either the US, the Chinese or the Europeans/Scandinavians/CANAUSNZ collection. 

 

A choice needs to be made. 

 

WRT immigration, @CornwallFox sadly appears to have it right in that it isn't an argument that can be "won". Some people simply want a white ethnostate, and they will raise hell until they have it. 

They are Ministers of the Realm - No axe to grind at all. 

 

They will be whiter than white, the grown ups have entered the room, a government of service to the people blah blah ****ing blah. 

 

Don't then turn out to be the biggest ligger in Parliament you scum bag 

[CornwallFox]

8 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

They are Ministers of the Realm - No axe to grind at all. 

 

They will be whiter than white, the grown ups have entered the room, a government of service to the people blah blah ****ing blah. 

 

Don't then turn out to be the biggest ligger in Parliament you scum bag 

You sound like you've been watching GB news 24/7

[leicsmac]

13 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

活着为了什么？

Well, I'd rather that be whatever European or Scandic language you care to name, but...

 

10 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

They are Ministers of the Realm - No axe to grind at all. 

 

They will be whiter than white, the grown ups have entered the room, a government of service to the people blah blah ****ing blah. 

 

Don't then turn out to be the biggest ligger in Parliament you scum bag 

Judging by previous and current tone of contributions, permit me to disbelieve you there. It sounds like me denying my own distaste for the current US administration. 

 

That being said, in these days of perception overwhelming facts, appearances are important (unless you apparently have the charisma to lie and cheat to people's faces and get by with it, which people like Trump and Farage have and Starmer doesn't.)

Edited 11 May by leicsmac

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 minute ago, CornwallFox said:

You sound like you've been watching GB news 24/7

Not true? 

 

He was miles out in front. 

 

Then gave back the rateable % since he's been PM? 

 

Also not true. 

 

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

26 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Well, I'd rather that be whatever European or Scandic language you care to name, but...

 

Judging by previous and current tone of contributions, permit me to disbelieve you there. It sounds like me denying my own distaste for the current US administration. 

 

That being said, in these days of perception overwhelming facts, appearances are important (unless you apparently have the charisma to lie and cheat to people's faces and get by with it, which people like Trump and Farage have and Starmer doesn't.)

I just don't like hypocrites and that front bench is full of them

 

Also, there's not one of them on their brief 

 

Edited 11 May by CrazyKopCorner

[OntarioFox]

38 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

They are Ministers of the Realm - No axe to grind at all. 

 

They will be whiter than white, the grown ups have entered the room, a government of service to the people blah blah ****ing blah. 

 

Don't then turn out to be the biggest ligger in Parliament you scum bag 

I'm sorry, the biggest what?

[CrazyKopCorner]

2 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

I'm sorry, the biggest what?

Good one 

[leicsmac]

27 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I just don't like hypocrites and that front bench is full of them

 

Also, there's not one of them on their brief 

 

Fair enough, goodness knows we could do with a better level of politician across all parties. 

 

Perhaps Burnham might at least help there. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

Can we rename this thread the argument thread?

 

 

[CornwallFox]

14 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Can we rename this thread the argument thread?

 

 

No, we can't actually

[Tommy G]

40 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Can we rename this thread the argument thread?

 

 

Makes a change from US politics 

[st albans fox]

Story doing the rounds that a Birmingham council seat was won by 6 votes

2 recounts - same result 

today the returning officer found 7 undiscovered and uncounted labour votes for the 3rd recount 

 

the labour councilor at risk was is the leader of brum council 

 

surely has to be nonsense ??

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Story doing the rounds that a Birmingham council seat was won by 6 votes

2 recounts - same result 

today the returning officer found 7 undiscovered and uncounted labour votes for the 3rd recount 

 

the labour councilor at risk was is the leader of brum council 

 

surely has to be nonsense ??

where were the 7 undiscovered from? and how were they suddenly found?

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

where were the 7 undiscovered from? and how were they suddenly found?

No idea ?

suppose they’d have to be in a vote box 

 

I mean it just sounds so dodgy that I can’t believe it’s true. 
 

EDIT: read a bit more and they weren’t found outside of the original vote count.  The complaint is that how come they were missed the first three times the vote was counted and seemed to have appeared after the weekend on Mondays recount. 

Edited 11 May by st albans fox

[st albans fox]

Mahmood apparently now pushing for Starmer to declare a leaving date

 

the writing was on the wall after the mandelson debacle in the commons - once you lose your authority then you’re politically toast 

[Spudulike]

5 hours ago, st albans fox said:

The tax take hike from the increase in fuel costs is unexpected and income that the treasury wouldn’t have counted on.

 

so why can’t reeves give a temporary reduction in fuel duties whilst prices are high and also announce a windfall tax on the fuel companies re their extra profits over this period. 
 

They should have done this weeks ago - their lack of response is the reason why they’re in the position they are with the public. 

 

We've seen before what happens when the Government reduce fuel duty. The petrol suppliers increase the per litre price by the amount reduced, drivers just pay the same and the suppliers pocket it 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

No, we can't actually

That's not an argument, that's just a contradiction.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

where were the 7 undiscovered from? and how were they suddenly found?

And surely if they've now only won by one vote, then there needs to be a recount?

[Trav Le Bleu]

11 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

We've seen before what happens when the Government reduce fuel duty. The petrol suppliers increase the per litre price by the amount reduced, drivers just pay the same and the suppliers pocket it 

Yup.

[CrazyKopCorner]

11 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Can we rename this thread the argument thread?

 

 

No we most certainly can't ........ outside you barsteward 

[Lionator]

Starmer needs to stay for the summer so they can get Burnham onto the ballot. Having a choice between Rayner and Streeting would be utterly appalling and would have us longing for the Starmer halcyon days within weeks.