Hope that things will (eventually) get better

[Afraid of Chives]

4 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

No, that would be a huge mistake. It's the one thing that sets us apart from the likes of Bolton, Portsmouth, Derby etc

 

It makes us a massively more attractive proposition for investors

Sorry John.

I was quite angry when posting.

I accept your valid point.

I just feel - that despite our wonderful facilities, the current squad just aren't deserving of them.

But like you say, it is an attractive proposition for any future investment.

I'm not suggesting for one minute, we should resort to the halcyon days of "murder hills", more that they're just a bunch of pampered brats.

I just want effort and commitment. 

 

 

 

[Drain the Swamp]

Going down makes it less likely he sells. We're basically at the '08 Mandaric stage now where we need a decent manager and a couple of successful seasons to rebuild the club's value until it's worth his while selling. If we get to be a top 8 Championship club again with a manageable wage bill, Aiyawatt will have buyers.

[Drain the Swamp]

27 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

No, that would be a huge mistake. It's the one thing that sets us apart from the likes of Bolton, Portsmouth, Derby etc

 

It makes us a massively more attractive proposition for investors

100% agree. I actually think this makes us more saleable than the new stand would have been, which would have just left us with a liability that had more empty seats than Jeffrey Epstein's funeral.

 

Seagrave will produce tens of millions of pounds worth of talent regularly who can either form the nucleus of our squads or form saleable assets, which is not something that can yet be said of expanding the ground to 42k.

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

I guess none of the clubs mentioned won the PL or the FA cup in modern times, or played in the Champions League. So our fall from grace is a bigger one. 

 

That being said, got to admire a positive post on here!

This

[VLC86]

34 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

No, that would be a huge mistake. It's the one thing that sets us apart from the likes of Bolton, Portsmouth, Derby etc

 

It makes us a massively more attractive proposition for investors

To savy investors, I’m not so sure. It’s a hugely excessive facility with ridiculous running costs for where we are heading.

 

Probably irrelevant anyway, nobody buys it.

Edited 11 February by VLC86

[Drain the Swamp]

1 minute ago, VLC86 said:

To savy investors, I’m not so sure. It’s a hugely excessive facility with ridiculous running costs for where we are heading.

But worth it for the amount of players it could produce and money it could save on transfer fees.

 

Nelson, Aluko, Page, Silko, Monga, Braybrooke, Alves, Evans and Hutchinson cost not a bean between them. 

[VLC86]

2 minutes ago, Drain the Swamp said:

But worth it for the amount of players it could produce and money it could save on transfer fees.

 

Nelson, Aluko, Page, Silko, Monga, Braybrooke, Alves, Evans and Hutchinson cost not a bean between them. 

Fair to a certain degree (you’ve quoted some there who we would sell for about £500k) So will other training grounds which don’t cost as much to run.

 

I suspect that batch of players is equally as much of a result of our success over the last 10 years as the training ground.

[iancognito]

4 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

This is the lowest I've felt as a Leicester fan and I am convinced that we've not hit rock bottom yet. However, there is hope that we will one day return to some level of respectability under a different ownership. I just wanted to give everyone a bit of optimism. 

 

Just a few relatively recent examples:

 

- Seven or eight years ago Sunderland suffered back-to-back relegations and then went onto spend three seasons in league 1. They are now 11th in the premier league as a newly promoted team and the future looks bright. 

- Just four years ago, Derby County nearly went out of existence and are now knocking on the door of the play-offs. 

- Portsmouth plummeted down the leagues and very nearly went out of existence and despite taking a while to come back, are now likely to stay up again in the championship. 

- Coventry plummeted down the leagues, ended up playing home games in Northampton and Birmingham and could now get promoted  to premier league (I know this makes it more painful). 

 

All of these clubs went through turmoil, were taken over and have eventually come out the other side. 

 

In the meantime the objective should be clear...Do everything we can to get the current ownership gone. 

We shouldnt wait for that lowest ebb.

 

Last time down there Mandaric finally got lucky getting Pearson after all his previous 4 choices sent us down. I dont trust Aiyawatt to put on matching socks in the morning let alone pick a manager or turn the club round.

 

Football is cyclical - Liverpool, United, Forest, Leeds....they've all had highs and lows, we just need to make sure we've already had ours.

[murphy]

I think that our floor is league one.  The trouble is, that we will get there from a position of being at our absolute ceiling and beyond and it happened in the blink of an eye due to a blizzard of baffling cock ups. 

 

We have been down before but this is worse because we were in such a position of strength that we should have consolidated ourselves as a top-half Premier League club. 

 

As others have said, football is cyclical and we will get our mojo back and start to climb again.  I don't know when that will be, but first, the remainder of this squad of malingerers needs culling and one thing is for certain, the man that has overseen all of this as director of football needs to go and we should not be appeased by the sleight of hand of moving him upstairs.  That would be a scandal.  He needs to empty his desk right now. 

 

 

[Steve Earle]

3 hours ago, Rubbersoul said:

Going down to League One doesn’t have to be the end. 
 

But it is until he sells. 

We all know that’s the only solution that could possibly lead to our resurgence. 
But the fact that Top doesn’t know this, see this or feel this is astonishing.

And his fault: plainly, people aren’t recruited or promoted because they speak truth to power. Instead, incompetent lickspittles surround Top, and if you’re reasonably competent and/or have a view that differs from Top & Rudkin, you’re out (bye Susan).

It sickens me that this nepo baby has any influence at all over my club, never mind autocratic control.

My first season was 1965-66. This is the most disconnected I’ve ever been and despite being a ST holder, I’ve been to only three matches this season. I went to every home game in our one previous foray into League One, because our owner, manger & players cared. 
 

This lot? Not so much. So why should I?

[OntarioFox]

51 minutes ago, Drain the Swamp said:

Going down makes it less likely he sells. We're basically at the '08 Mandaric stage now where we need a decent manager and a couple of successful seasons to rebuild the club's value until it's worth his while selling. If we get to be a top 8 Championship club again with a manageable wage bill, Aiyawatt will have buyers.

Issue is, if the Prem is on the horizon again who's to say he won't decide to stick around? The whole thing seems to be a vessel for him to show off to his mates in Thai high society at this point, as the cringefest following promotion last time out showed.

 

There surely comes a point where the lack of media exposure becomes terminal, which is why I agree that L1 relegation will accelerate a sale. In a different timeline where we went down and stayed down in that Great Escape season, himself (or I guess Vichai) would have lost interest and sold to the next interested party looking for a shiny toy.

 

The Championship is now getting a little more exposure with improved TV deals and global airings but League One is the total doldrums. There isn't a soul outside of the most obsessive LCFC fanbase who will go to the trouble of trying to watch us in the third tier. The potential commercial revenue from brand exposure for Top and KP is basically zero.

Edited 11 February by OntarioFox

[1972 Fox]

2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

The only hope we’ve got is this technical director is a near enough genius because otherwise we will continue to sink as this child won’t sell up no matter what league we are in. 

Do you actually believe there will be a technical director coming in? I'm very doubtful myself.

[Cropwellfox]

If we go down, we have one shot of getting back up. Fail to do that and with the new rules coming in, the banks calling in their debt, we go to the wall, it’s a simple as that. Forest end up at Seagrave and the Phoenix club goes back to Belvoir Drive. 

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, 1972 Fox said:

Do you actually believe there will be a technical director coming in? I'm very doubtful myself.

I think it’ll happen yes but it’ll be pointless. 

[BenTheFox]

12 hours ago, Cropwellfox said:

If we go down, we have one shot of getting back up. Fail to do that and with the new rules coming in, the banks calling in their debt, we go to the wall, it’s a simple as that. Forest end up at Seagrave and the Phoenix club goes back to Belvoir Drive. 

Means we might actually eventually appoint Potter, it just won't be Graham Potter...

[FoxinNotts]

Best case scenario (realistic), from the dire current position that we are in:

 

Next fortnight-or-so:

Appoint an available manager, who is respected, and up for a dog fight (by Sunday, latest)

Leave Kingy to work as a coach along side the new manager

Appoint a DoF with some pedigree (ideally Nigel Pearson or Steve Walsh)

Get some clean sheets

Get Daka Scoring

Keep the remaining first choice 11 fit

 

Remainder of season:

Get some of those injured back fit (JJ, Ramsey)

Survive in the league

 

Off Season:

Buy James Jordan

Keep Fatawu

Get in the best striker we can find on a free/cheap for the Championship

Push on for the new play-off system spots 

 

[murphy]

39 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Best case scenario (realistic), from the dire current position that we are in:

 

Next fortnight-or-so:

Appoint an available manager, who is respected, and up for a dog fight (by Sunday, latest)

Leave Kingy to work as a coach along side the new manager

Appoint a DoF with some pedigree (ideally Nigel Pearson or Steve Walsh)

Get some clean sheets

Get Daka Scoring

Keep the remaining first choice 11 fit

 

Remainder of season:

Get some of those injured back fit (JJ, Ramsey)

Survive in the league

 

Off Season:

Buy James Jordan

Keep Fatawu

Get in the best striker we can find on a free/cheap for the Championship

Push on for the new play-off system spots 

 

OKJ, but why do we need to keep King on?  He hasn't shown anything worth keeping hold of to me.  We can't afford to be sentimental and we can't afford jobs for the boys.

[FoxinNotts]

Just now, murphy said:

OKJ, but why do we need to keep King on?  He hasn't shown anything worth keeping hold of to me.  We can't afford to be sentimental and we can't afford jobs for the boys.

Fair comment. Can't really argue with that. Up to whoever the new manager is, I guess

[LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall]

On 11/02/2026 at 14:08, BenTheFox said:

This is the lowest I've felt as a Leicester fan and I am convinced that we've not hit rock bottom yet. However, there is hope that we will one day return to some level of respectability under a different ownership. I just wanted to give everyone a bit of optimism. 

 

Just a few relatively recent examples:

 

- Seven or eight years ago Sunderland suffered back-to-back relegations and then went onto spend three seasons in league 1. They are now 11th in the premier league as a newly promoted team and the future looks bright. 

- Just four years ago, Derby County nearly went out of existence and are now knocking on the door of the play-offs. 

- Portsmouth plummeted down the leagues and very nearly went out of existence and despite taking a while to come back, are now likely to stay up again in the championship. 

- Coventry plummeted down the leagues, ended up playing home games in Northampton and Birmingham and could now get promoted  to premier league (I know this makes it more painful). 

 

All of these clubs went through turmoil, were taken over and have eventually come out the other side. 

 

In the meantime the objective should be clear...Do everything we can to get the current ownership gone. 

 

[Warks_Mackem]

It will turn, football goes in cycles.

 

The night Leicester beat Southampton 9-0 I was watching that game in a pub in Desford with a load of work colleague Leicester fans. The next day I drove to Shrewsbury to watch Sunderland lose 1-0 in a monsoon. We were in the bottom half of League 1 after that result.

 

keep the faith.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

OKJ, but why do we need to keep King on?  He hasn't shown anything worth keeping hold of to me.  We can't afford to be sentimental and we can't afford jobs for the boys.

I'm glad you know exactly what Andy King has done as a coach and exactly what players have or haven't learnt from him.

[splinterdream]

On 11/02/2026 at 14:15, Rubbersoul said:

Going down to League One doesn’t have to be the end. 
 

But it is until he sells. 

Going down to league 1 could bust the finances, we go into administration, we get a huge points deduction, we get relegated again

[Pliskin]

35 minutes ago, Warks_Mackem said:

It will turn, football goes in cycles.

 

The night Leicester beat Southampton 9-0 I was watching that game in a pub in Desford with a load of work colleague Leicester fans. The next day I drove to Shrewsbury to watch Sunderland lose 1-0 in a monsoon. We were in the bottom half of League 1 after that result.

 

keep the faith.

It will likely be the end for us. 
 

We will automatically breach their FFP regs, because we won’t be able to shift the wages off the bill again, unless we start terminating contracts prematurely, we’ve got huge maintenance costs of the stadium, and two training grounds, loans coming out of our arses and a massive drop in revenue.
 

But the biggest issue, is that the board won’t be even thinking about relegation, league one won’t be on their radar, so they won’t be planning for it which is ultimately what will finish us off.  

[murphy]

15 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I'm glad you know exactly what Andy King has done as a coach and exactly what players have or haven't learnt from him.

 He has been part of martis team of failure and has hardly covered himself in glory with 100% loss record and that craven second half alone showed his naivety. 

 

Maybe you think he's worth keeping on but then I'd ask you the same question.  Why?   He has shown nothing. 

 

A new manager will want his own coaches.  No point keeping Andy King purely for sentimental reasons. 

 

[Tommy Fresh]

36 minutes ago, murphy said:

 He has been part of martis team of failure and has hardly covered himself in glory with 100% loss record and that craven second half alone showed his naivety. 

 

Maybe you think he's worth keeping on but then I'd ask you the same question.  Why?   He has shown nothing. 

 

A new manager will want his own coaches.  No point keeping Andy King purely for sentimental reasons. 

 

100% loss record of a job he didn't want? You do realise a coach like King would just be working under what a head coach wants him to do right? 

I'm not the one putting opinion across as fact, when in reality you have zero idea of his influence as a coach. 

Did you think Ranieri should just bring in all his own staff and bin off Pearsons backroom team?