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4 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We obviously were going to be in the relegation under cooper though. Winning very luckily at Southampton, one of the worst PL sides ever,  they went down to 10 and we had a penalty (they should have had one too but it wasn't given) gave us 3 points we didn't deserve.

 

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Ipswich went down to 10 for us to draw late on there too. 1 point from 15 in his final 5 games, he wasn't going to turn that around because he was an abysmal manager, we should never have appointed him. The RVN appointment was disastrous but the Cooper one ****ed us more.

Stats don't lie but until a fact is proven  its all hypothetical. Cooper didn't relegate us and neither did he take into the drop zone. Winning luckily and having openents sent off is all part and parcel of the game. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, everton carr said:

The fact they have been poor don't change the fact they both had good careers prior to Leicester.Ayew over 300 PL games over 100 international caps.And it's a team of 5 who have to agree on signings not just the manager.

I think it is reasonable to suspect that Cooper put those names forward.  They have his fingerprints all over them. 

 

Yes, they have played in the Premier League but you are in a seriously small minority if you think, or thought at the time, that they were what we needed.  The majority on here were horrified, as I was.  Especially after we had been linked to some quite exiting prospects. 

 

You seem to have bought into Cooper's PL experience fixation.  Let me remind you that Coady, Vestergaard, Edouard and Bertrand also had PL experience.  They were all hopeless and you could see it coming a mile off. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Freddy said:

Stats don't lie but until a fact is proven  its all hypothetical. Cooper didn't relegate us and neither did he take into the drop zone. Winning luckily and having openents sent off is all part and parcel of the game. 

It took two of the worst PL sides ever going down to 10 for us to take 4 points off them. With a 2-4-6 record that's 10 point from 12 games, 0.83 ppg. 

 

So 31.5 points over the course of the season, we didn't play Liverpool or Man City either but did play the bottom two. If Cooper would have stayed it would have probably been exactly the same points total, possibly worse as we'd be unlikely to have the 4 points from the new manager bounce.

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Posted
3 hours ago, murphy said:

For me it was always Peter Taylor for dismantling O'Neil's team, but that position has been usurped by Mr Snake Oil -  Brendan Rodgers.   

 

When he was appointed, I said it would all end in tears.  No one has caused more damage to this club. 

Rodgers has such a weird role in our history. He's like the DeMille epic movie (intermission included, by the way) adaptation of the thirty-minute Peter Taylor episode: A brilliant start, some dizzying heights despite concerns about his ability to build, then a spectacular decline which crippled us for many years thereafter. Something similar happened, actually, with the guy who nearly won the league with us in the 1920s (Willie Orr), who achieved unprecedented success with a squad put together by Peter Hodge, couldn't add to it, and left with us spiralling towards the drop zone.

 

Rodgers, unlike Taylor, can genuinely lay claim to being both one of our best and worst managers. He'll appear in rankings at both ends of the scale, a bit like where Bowie might sit in Best Artists and Worst Artists of the 1980s. I always had a very personal dislike for the man (Rodgers, not Bowie that is), so I don't think I can speak about him with a great deal of sensible objectivity.

 

Where Taylor's concerned, I suppose you must have something about you as a coach to have a side top of the EPL in October, or 4th in March, or even 13th over the course of a full season. There is actually a level of achievement there, unlike the reigns of McLintock, Pleat, Bassett, Sousa, Ruud or Cifuentes. But it was with someone else's squad, and we finally crumbled under the weight of his own sheer incompetence as both a recruiter and a matchday manager. Until Rodgers, I don't think any manager in our entire history had such a dire legacy. He's got to feature on any list, even when he's got competition from so many bosses who literally never experienced anything other than failure.

 

For the very worst, I'd have Holloway down there too, even though I agree with the points people have made in his defence. People who worked with him said he seemed to completely lose his grip on things - as understandable as that was in the circumstances - and as a result we reached our lowest of lows to date. I'm not sure that can happen under your watch without you being considered one of a club's poorest managers. We were 17th and still looking up the table when he took over.

 

For those who mentioned Tom Mather's 0% win record, I should add that this was only because he never took charge of a league game. His wartime record was awful too, but a bit higher than 0%! For bad old managers (based on Fossils and Foxes / Foxestalk History / my grandad!) I reckon George Johnson, in spite of getting our first ever promotion, and Louis Ford are worth a very debatable shout, but as a general rule you'll find the direst of the dire in the past fifty years.

 

Still, the very worst, and thank god I wasn't there to see it, must have been McLintock. He took over a side which had just finished 11th, albeit in poor form. And while fans felt the squad needed some younger blood, the average age was still only about 27, and he was given the most ample funding anyone had enjoyed in almost a decade. To be so dramatically relegated, blame everyone else for your failings, and leave the club unable to re-establish itself as a top-half top flight force for two decades, with no manager being trusted with such relatively ample financial resources until the mid-90s, really is shocking.

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Posted
22 hours ago, Finnegan said:

If you're measuring managers as managers not just as head coaches (ie, their impact on the whole club not just on-field performance) then I don't think there's any argument here. 

 

It's Brendan Rodgers by a massive, massive, massive distance. 

 

Forget your hate for King Power for a moment, forget that Rudkin and Top enabled him and were ultimately responsible for letting him run riot. 

 

He took a club that had had been fairly successful in the transfer market, had built and given him a pretty decent squad and had a general philosophy of mostly signing assets that could be up-sold with room to grow both in talent and value and he said **** that.

 

He implemented his "broken players" ideology, filled the squad full of his nonsense, horrifically mismanaged all of his own approved signings, plummeted everyone's value, tanked the squad's personality and then morale, erased all culture of graft, hard work and fight and then moaned about it.

 

The financial problems we're still in now can be traced back to the wage bill he helped inflate for the players he got us to sign, plenty of whom aren't good enough even for this level. If we go down to League One this year with the highest wage bill ever to be relegated from the Championship, which is likely, to go with our record for the highest wage bill to ever be relegated from the Premier League then he'll deserve significant blame for both.

 

We're still drowning now trying to tread water under the weight of his contributions to the club. Taylor, Pleat, Holloway, Allen and Co never, ever had this sort of lasting impact. 

 

Yeah, Rodgers had a "Director of Football" above him that shielded him from some of the responsibility on paper but we all know one of Rudkin's biggest failings has been surrendering control to his managers and that Rodgers was mostly pulling the strings. 

 

Liverpool knew how much of a disaster he was and curbed his influence there. We had no such sense. 

 

Was he our worst ever Head Coach? No. We've many worse, including those immediately before him and most since. But worst ever manager of the football club? For sure. 

 

You've put together the most accurate assessment of his ultimately calamitous effect on the club I've hitherto read. 

As a comment on the ego of the man, I read this on the 'Upshot' this morning:

 

With his Gucci belt and envelope-based motivational methods, we didn’t need any more proof that Brendan Rodgers is football’s very own David Brent.

But Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall has provided it anyway, by recalling the time the former Leicester gaffer organised a mandatory pool tournament for his players:

 

"Everyone had to join in. I was young at the time – wasn’t a first-team player – but was drawn to play him in the first round.

I said to the lads: “Do I try my hardest?” Because he was going: “I’m really good at pool” and all the lads thought he fancied himself to win the whole thing.

Quite a few people were watching and I beat him 3-0 and you could tell he was raging. A week later I got sent out on loan to Blackpool."

 

That's the insecurity of the man in full view. His need for acknowledgement and position overwhelmed any other consideration and ultimately it eroded the Club's potential to hold its status in the Premier. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Stadt said:

This was a bigger issue than "You just dont like him cos Forest", we never had a problem with Morgan and O'Neil is arguably our best ever manager.

 

The problem was he's a shit PL manager with an abysmal win rate, that was apparent before we appointed him. His recruitment input is rubbish too, as we've found out.

It made no sense at the time. He was sacked because they were seriously in trouble with the majority of the squad who subsequently performed for Nuno (an example of somebody who is popular there but a capable operator and would be a good appointment if we were attractive to him despite his past).

 

Let's not forget that van Nistelrooy managed the same amount of points from the 12 matches Cooper had.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Corky said:

It made no sense at the time. He was sacked because they were seriously in trouble with the majority of the squad who subsequently performed for Nuno (an example of somebody who is popular there but a capable operator and would be a good appointment if we were attractive to him despite his past).

 

Let's not forget that van Nistelrooy managed the same amount of points from the 12 matches Cooper had.

I think Cooper had won like 1 in 15 of his last Forest games. Add the 2 in 12 with us to get 3 in 27 PL games. He's just a poor manager at this level and he only got the gig because our myopic managerial recruitment is so bad.

 

 

Matches W D L Goals Points PPM
67 14 20 33 70:121 62 0.93
Posted
1 hour ago, Stadt said:

This was a bigger issue than "You just dont like him cos Forest", we never had a problem with Morgan and O'Neil is arguably our best ever manager.

 

The problem was he's a shit PL manager with an abysmal win rate, that was apparent before we appointed him. His recruitment input is rubbish too, as we've found out.

Thought we had established manager has very little say in signings.Did he not keep Forest in the PL yes it no

Posted
8 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I think Cooper had won like 1 in 15 of his last Forest games. Add the 2 in 12 with us to get 3 in 27 PL games. He's just a poor manager at this level and he only got the gig because our myopic managerial recruitment is so bad.

 

 

Matches W D L Goals Points PPM
67 14 20 33 70:121 62 0.93

Yes they were on a bad run of form although they were not in the bottom 3 when he left

Posted
5 minutes ago, everton carr said:

Thought we had established manager has very little say in signings.Did he not keep Forest in the PL yes it no

We've established that Reid, Ayew and Skipp have all the hallmarks of Cooper signings, do you fancy him or something?

 

He kept Forest in the PL once on 38 points, then in his second season they were abysmal - they weren't in the bottom 3 but would have been in a matter of games.

"Forest, who are 17th in the Premier League, have won once in their past 13 top-flight games, taking eight points in that period".

 

 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We've established that Reid, Ayew and Skipp have all the hallmarks of Cooper signings, do you fancy him or something?

 

He kept Forest in the PL once on 38 points, then in his second season they were abysmal - they weren't in the bottom 3 but would have been in a matter of games.

"Forest, who are 17th in the Premier League, have won once in their past 13 top-flight games, taking eight points in that period".

 

 

 

I'm not even a Cooper fan  in particular but trying to be balanced.When Cooper left Forest he had taken 14 points from 15 matches Nuno took 18 points from 23 matches so in effect he was even worse.They only needed 27 to stay up.It was the following season helped by a number of signings that they improved massively

Posted
23 hours ago, Finnegan said:

If you're measuring managers as managers not just as head coaches (ie, their impact on the whole club not just on-field performance) then I don't think there's any argument here. 

 

It's Brendan Rodgers by a massive, massive, massive distance. 

 

Forget your hate for King Power for a moment, forget that Rudkin and Top enabled him and were ultimately responsible for letting him run riot. 

 

He took a club that had had been fairly successful in the transfer market, had built and given him a pretty decent squad and had a general philosophy of mostly signing assets that could be up-sold with room to grow both in talent and value and he said **** that.

 

He implemented his "broken players" ideology, filled the squad full of his nonsense, horrifically mismanaged all of his own approved signings, plummeted everyone's value, tanked the squad's personality and then morale, erased all culture of graft, hard work and fight and then moaned about it.

 

The financial problems we're still in now can be traced back to the wage bill he helped inflate for the players he got us to sign, plenty of whom aren't good enough even for this level. If we go down to League One this year with the highest wage bill ever to be relegated from the Championship, which is likely, to go with our record for the highest wage bill to ever be relegated from the Premier League then he'll deserve significant blame for both.

 

We're still drowning now trying to tread water under the weight of his contributions to the club. Taylor, Pleat, Holloway, Allen and Co never, ever had this sort of lasting impact. 

 

Yeah, Rodgers had a "Director of Football" above him that shielded him from some of the responsibility on paper but we all know one of Rudkin's biggest failings has been surrendering control to his managers and that Rodgers was mostly pulling the strings. 

 

Liverpool knew how much of a disaster he was and curbed his influence there. We had no such sense. 

 

Was he our worst ever Head Coach? No. We've many worse, including those immediately before him and most since. But worst ever manager of the football club? For sure. 

 

Really good post. I'm not sure I know enough about the old, old days to say that there was nobody worse as a 'manager'. And I suppose it's hard to separate the Head Coach from the manager when it comes to winning trophies, as he did. But I certainly get your point.

 

I also suppose you have to place things in the context of club-level mismanagement which carried on for years after Rodgers I mean, it's not as if recruitment can entirely be pinned on him when, Pearson era and (very debatably) Puel aside, most of it under KP has been shockingly bad. But yes his legacy is unbelievably grim, and may yet prove to be the outright worst of any City boss.

 

The only thing I'd dispute is what you say about no other manager having such a lasting negative impact on us, and then including Taylor in your examples. The club couldn't re-establish itself as a top flight team for fourteen years after his departure, and we were cash-strapped for nearly a decade (almost going out of business along the way). And to think the decline started with an 8th place top flight side, and recent cup winners - it's staggering. Within a couple of seasons we were a bottom half second tier side and, financially hamstrung, we limped towards an eventual drop to the third tier.

 

Bearing in mind our post-2022 collapse also saw us dropping from 8th in the PL to the lower echelons of the second tier with a whole host of potentially-terminal financial problems along the way, a short-lived and fairly pointless promotion, and possibly a relegation to the third tier a little further down the line, you could argue that that bears some similarities to what happened post-O'Neill.

 

And, with regard to your well-made points on Head Coaches / managers, you could say that even the nature of the managers in question is comparable - both hands-on Head Coach types, well-hyped within the game, supposedly tactically astute, initially impressive on the training ground, but catastrophically inept at club level.

 

Of course, if we go out of business then, while that may well have a good deal more to do with Top and co. than Rodgers, you'll be proven 100% right. But as it stands, I'd say the two of them are jostling for the Worst Ever Legacy accolade.

 

I am nitpicking though!

Posted
46 minutes ago, Corky said:

It made no sense at the time. He was sacked because they were seriously in trouble with the majority of the squad who subsequently performed for Nuno (an example of somebody who is popular there but a capable operator and would be a good appointment if we were attractive to him despite his past).

 

Let's not forget that van Nistelrooy managed the same amount of points from the 12 matches Cooper had.

They didn't perform under Nuno until the following season they were even worse. They were lucky they only needed 27 points to stay up

Posted
On 05/03/2026 at 11:56, Bazly said:

A trip down memory lane up to last month, unfortunately I'm old enough to remember most of them. I'd personally hand the trophy to Holloway as the only manager who ever managed (to date) to get the team relegated to the third tier of English football.

Tom Mather P2 Win ratio 0%
Kevin MacDonald P3 Win ratio 0%
Mike Stowell P2 Win ratio 0%
Andy King P4, Win ratio 0%

Then those who had a decent run of games.


Board P18 Win ratio 16%
Frank McLintock P 40 Win ratio 12.5%
Dave Bassett P32 Win ratio 12.5%
Ian Holloway P32 Win ratio 28%

 

Firstly - you are being harsh on Stowell - many seem to only remember his caretaking manager role in 2023 - which helped by Sadler was 0 pts from 2 games as we crashed from the Premier League.

 

However he was also caretaker in 07, 10, 11, 17 & 19 - in total P10, win ratio 50%

 

Adam Sadler on the other hand P2 L2 in 2023 and was the senior advisor to King for another 4 matches.

 

Worst Managers in my lifetime:

 

Holloway slept walked us into league 1

Bassett offered nothing after we started the season awfully - we should have given Adams the job from the off

RVN just didn't change anything when it was so clearly failing

 

Posted
22 hours ago, Stadt said:

Skipp, Ayew and Reid have all the hallmarks of Cooper signings. 
 

Skipp - England U17s under Cooper, took MGW to Forest on th back this link and similar at Swansea.

 

Ayew - signed his brother twice ffs

 

Reid - PL experience is something he parked for at Forest, you cod tell who were his signings and who were the clubs.

 

BEK and Okoli were pretty obviously not his players. Buonanotte, no idea on that one.

He didn't pick Skipp initially though, so I do wonder about that one. I groaned audibly when he signed Reid and Ayew, but he felt we needed experience - which we might have - and so, with next to no funds at hand, we went for what was readily available for next to nothing. Very poor signings, but not entirely beyond comprehension.

 

I honestly couldn't go into the dynamics of who signed who with any conviction. I'm sure he made suggestions and imagine he gave his green light, but the only thing I can say for sure is that recruitment was awful for years before him, and hasn't been up to much since. It's hard to pick Cooper out as a standout bad manager on that score, from the current era.

 

As regards the Forest side of things, you only have to go back and look at this forum at the time to see how much was made of that, and his looks, and this slightly odd notion that we were way too good for a boss who'd done well in the second tier (better, you could easily argue, than Maresca) and kept a side up in the PL.

 

O'Neill hadn't been at Forest for 15 years when he joined us, and even then we hated him for the first four months!

 

Granted, Cooper was never right for us and I agree that we'd have gone down under him, but I don't know the degree to which the players' reluctance to adapt to his methods, and the negativity around the ground towards him from the off, made it harder for him to do his job effectively. I think it would be a bit of a push to argue that those things (especially given our players' track record!) weren't factors.

 

People can be overly dramatic about managers at times. 'This guy is a competition winner' / 'that one's utterly incompetent' / 'he's nowhere near good enough for us'. Even bearing in mind how poor our board are at appointing managers, when you get to the point of saying that the last three were all total no-hopers, in spite of some of them being respected by other clubs at the same level, you do have to wonder whether we're looking in the right places.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Stadt said:

This was a bigger issue than "You just dont like him cos Forest", we never had a problem with Morgan and O'Neil is arguably our best ever manager.

 

The problem was he's a shit PL manager with an abysmal win rate, that was apparent before we appointed him. His recruitment input is rubbish too, as we've found out.

Cooper Blooper signed those players thinking he was here for the long haul too I think (3 years or so possibly), naively thinking he was buying a prime Ayew, BDCR for their experience to keep us up - and a 'huge potential' Skipp who we paid about four times his actual worth for, makes you wonder what he and the recruitment team after Enzo left were on!

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Posted
7 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

He didn't pick Skipp initially though, so I do wonder about that one. I groaned audibly when he signed Reid and Ayew, but he felt we needed experience - which we might have - and so, with next to no funds at hand, we went for what was readily available for next to nothing. Very poor signings, but not entirely beyond comprehension.

 

I honestly couldn't go into the dynamics of who signed who with any conviction. I'm sure he made suggestions and imagine he gave his green light, but the only thing I can say for sure is that recruitment was awful for years before him, and hasn't been up to much since. It's hard to pick Cooper out as a standout bad manager on that score, from the current era.

 

As regards the Forest side of things, you only have to go back and look at this forum at the time to see how much was made of that, and his looks, and this slightly odd notion that we were way too good for a boss who'd done well in the second tier (better, you could easily argue, than Maresca) and kept a side up in the PL.

 

O'Neill hadn't been at Forest for 15 years when he joined us, and even then we hated him for the first four months!

 

Granted, Cooper was never right for us and I agree that we'd have gone down under him, but I don't know the degree to which the players' reluctance to adapt to his methods, and the negativity around the ground towards him from the off, made it harder for him to do his job effectively. I think it would be a bit of a push to argue that those things (especially given our players' track record!) weren't factors.

 

People can be overly dramatic about managers at times. 'This guy is a competition winner' / 'that one's utterly incompetent' / 'he's nowhere near good enough for us'. Even bearing in mind how poor our board are at appointing managers, when you get to the point of saying that the last three were all total no-hopers, in spite of some of them being respected by other clubs at the same level, you do have to wonder whether we're looking in the right places.

The managerial recruitment is abysmal and it always has been. Rodgers was the only appointment with any vision behind it, given we've appointed c. 10 under KP it's a rubbish track recur that spans Vichai and Top's tenure.

 

Skipp took a while to get picked but he said this when signing:

“The staff here know me as well. Steve I have worked with at England so there’s definitely a good relationship there and I’m keen to push on and show what I can do." Seems too coincidental for our second biggest signing of the summer not to have been a Cooper one. He took loads of his U17s around with him 

 

Players Cooper later signed after managing them with England U17s

Player Club signed by Cooper Type Notes
Rhian Brewster Swansea City A.F.C. Loan (2020) Golden Boot at the 2017 U-17 World Cup; Cooper brought him in from Liverpool.
Marc Guehi Swansea Loan (2020) Chelsea CB who became key in Swansea’s playoff run.
Conor Gallagher Swansea Loan (2020–21) Another Chelsea midfielder Cooper trusted from youth internationals.
Morgan Gibbs-White Swansea (loan 2020–21) & Nottingham Forest F.C. (2022 permanent) Loan + Transfer One of Cooper’s key players at Forest. 
Callum Hudson-Odoi Nottingham Forest Transfer (2023) Reunited with Cooper after Chelsea career stalled. 
Jonathan Panzo Nottingham Forest Transfer (2022) Defender from the U17 squad.

 

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7 hours ago, shen said:

 

Maresca never enters this conversation.

 

It's fair enough you disliked the style of football, but his results were good and he was probably responsible for saving our behind financially/PSR wise when he, his staff and KDH went to Chelsea. He effectively gave us a blueprint for a successful team and Cooper and the recruitment staff left behind messes it up. Compare this to the mess Taylor & Rodgers left us with.

 

Also, cast your memories back to the football we played under Holloway, Levein or even just Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes - utterly disjointed and ineffective. How you can brand Maresca's style worse than those is quite staggering to me.

I did say he's far from the worse but compare him to our more mid range managers, Little, Adam's, Wallace hell even Sven who didn't even manage a promotion and straddles the line between mid and crap. I'd rather watch any of their sides play football than watch Marescas all out possesion shite. For me he's dead last in our list of not awful managers.

 

Its not really got owt to do with the overall conversation but as you brought it up im not sure his desertion to Chelsea did save our behind, rather it kicked the can down the road into this year's potentially club ending relegation scrap.

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27 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

I did say he's far from the worse but compare him to our more mid range managers, Little, Adam's, Wallace hell even Sven who didn't even manage a promotion and straddles the line between mid and crap. I'd rather watch any of their sides play football than watch Marescas all out possesion shite. For me he's dead last in our list of not awful managers.

 

Its not really got owt to do with the overall conversation but as you brought it up im not sure his desertion to Chelsea did save our behind, rather it kicked the can down the road into this year's potentially club ending relegation scrap.

Harsh on Little.

Posted
1 hour ago, Stadt said:

The managerial recruitment is abysmal and it always has been. Rodgers was the only appointment with any vision behind it, given we've appointed c. 10 under KP it's a rubbish track recur that spans Vichai and Top's tenure.

 

Skipp took a while to get picked but he said this when signing:

“The staff here know me as well. Steve I have worked with at England so there’s definitely a good relationship there and I’m keen to push on and show what I can do." Seems too coincidental for our second biggest signing of the summer not to have been a Cooper one. He took loads of his U17s around with him 

 

 

Players Cooper later signed after managing them with England U17s

Player Club signed by Cooper Type Notes
Rhian Brewster Swansea City A.F.C. Loan (2020) Golden Boot at the 2017 U-17 World Cup; Cooper brought him in from Liverpool.
Marc Guehi Swansea Loan (2020) Chelsea CB who became key in Swansea’s playoff run.
Conor Gallagher Swansea Loan (2020–21) Another Chelsea midfielder Cooper trusted from youth internationals.
Morgan Gibbs-White Swansea (loan 2020–21) & Nottingham Forest F.C. (2022 permanent) Loan + Transfer One of Cooper’s key players at Forest. 
Callum Hudson-Odoi Nottingham Forest Transfer (2023) Reunited with Cooper after Chelsea career stalled. 
Jonathan Panzo Nottingham Forest Transfer (2022) Defender from the U17 squad.

 

It's very possible that you're right.

Posted
40 minutes ago, Phil_Dunphy said:

Harsh on Little.

How is Little even in the conversation. A bloke who managed to make Colin Gordon, Platnauer, Coatsworth, Michael Trotter look serviceable footballers.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Phil_Dunphy said:

Harsh on Little.

Little was mostly great but I don't think you can put him in our top tier of managers.

Posted
On 05/03/2026 at 11:56, Bazly said:

A trip down memory lane up to last month, unfortunately I'm old enough to remember most of them. I'd personally hand the trophy to Holloway as the only manager who ever managed (to date) to get the team relegated to the third tier of English football.

Tom Mather P2 Win ratio 0%
Kevin MacDonald P3 Win ratio 0%
Mike Stowell P2 Win ratio 0%
Andy King P4, Win ratio 0%

Then those who had a decent run of games.


Board P18 Win ratio 16%
Frank McLintock P 40 Win ratio 12.5%
Dave Bassett P32 Win ratio 12.5%
Ian Holloway P32 Win ratio 28%

Didnt Sousa have close to a 0% win rate? Sacked after 10 or so games.

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