LCFC - What would YOU change?

[Paninistickers]

My pet peeve is the living in Nottingham thing. Players more or less told from the get go 'dont live in Leicester it's a shithole' sets the tone.  

 

Funnily enough,.players should take even more pride in backing local businesses of an unfashionable area. 

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that players who live in an area bond with it too. Ranieri in Stoneygate. Wilf in Cropston. Youri in Quorn. Vards a.bit further away but still local initially. 

 

A club needs to sell the life, the responsibility and not just the wages 

 

In our case, championing a relaxed lifestyle in Rutland, Harbourogh, Stoneygate, Woodhouse, Quorn Kirby Muxloe, Newton Linford should sell the concept of buying in to the community....much in the way the Manchester clubs 'sell' living in Cheshire 

 

 

 

 

[Parafox]

Just now, PhillippaT said:

We all sort of want this. But how and who do you replace them with.

 

Until we get an owner that actually has a genuine interest in owning/running a football club rather than the dancing ponies, we're stuck with what we've got. And the child at the Top shows no interest in the club, but also no interest in selling. If he was, it would've happened before the points deduction and the subsequent relegation, where our value and his shares in the club will plummet.

 

 

[CornwallFox]

12 hours ago, Raspeir said:

So, years of mismanagement, years of complacency, years of appalling fiscal planning and a complete naiveite when it comes to forward thinking strategies to manage worst-case scenarios. We all are witnessing the absolutely gutting scenario of the team we force ourselves to watch every week being humiliated again and again.

 

I often look at the business, and the club, and consider what I'd do if I was in the thick of it, and could actually influence the decision making going forwards.

 

So, my question to everyone is what would YOU do if you were handed the reigns of the club tomorrow. I'm talking from say a DOF standpoint. If Rudkin was finally unglued from his supposedly immoveable perch, and, in a flash of Championship Manager / Football Manager'esque brilliance, you found yourself parachuted in to the top job.

 

What would be the key points you'd look to change, both immediately, and in terms of long term strategy? 

 

A stringent wage cap? Would you pay someone to take a heat gun to all the faded blue seats? How would you re-connect with the fans? Would you look to re-jig the squad's use of the training ground in order to create a bit more professionalism? What would you look to do with the management team and structure?

 

There must be a bunch of people on here that run successful companies, in various different fields. All with different experience of tough economic times. There must also be a bunch of young and enthused young people that see the world through new and innovative eyes. There must also people that see things from the front lines of the workforce and can see where the people up top are getting it wrong.

 

I'd love to know what you'd do if you were given that top job.

 

Sack rudkin and Glover and bring Eduardo Macia back as director of football with large guaranteed bonuses for promotion to championship and premier league.  

 

Bring in a CEO with football experience. 

 

Stick with Rowett as I think he'd do a good job with a new squad in league one. We just need sensible football with players that are committed and a level above other league one teams.

 

Sell/loan/release literally every senior pro at the club. I don't see the point of keeping any of them. Nelson id keep if we could but that might be out of our hands.

 

Go into next season with a mixture of youth players and whichever more senior pros macia can bring in. He did a really good job with recruitment last time, it's fallen off a cliff since he left, I'd put my faith in him.

 

 

[JimJams]

10 hours ago, Ashley said:

Go back to the model of where we buy raw/rough and hidden gems sell them on and keep that cycle going. 

It was never a model though was it?  It was just the natural consequence for any club that buys some decent players.

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

My pet peeve is the living in Nottingham thing. Players more or less told from the get go 'dont live in Leicester it's a shithole' sets the tone.  

 

Funnily enough,.players should take even more pride in backing local businesses of an unfashionable area. 

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that players who live in an area bond with it too. Ranieri in Stoneygate. Wilf in Cropston. Youri in Quorn. Vards a.bit further away but still local initially. 

 

A club needs to sell the life, the responsibility and not just the wages 

 

In our case, championing a relaxed lifestyle in Rutland, Harbourogh, Stoneygate, Woodhouse, Quorn Kirby Muxloe, Newton Linford should sell the concept of buying in to the community....much in the way the Manchester clubs 'sell' living in Cheshire 

 

 

 

 

Do you honestly think players care about a connection with where they live and the club?

 

Sorry but that's laughable unless you're born and bred.

 

So many pro players at all top flight clubs live away from the area and commute in their flashy cars to the ground/training facility.

 

They won't "buy into the community" because they know and expect to move on in 2-3 years. Particularly in the case of foreign players

[Parafox]

7 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Stick with Rowett as I think he'd do a good job with a new squad in league one. We just need sensible football with players that are committed and a level above other league one teams.

 

Absolutely not.

 

He hasn't made any recognisable or positive changes to how we play.

 

He's not even a league one level manager.

 

More Anstey Nomads.

Edited 14 April by Parafox

[Ashley]

6 minutes ago, JimJams said:

It was never a model though was it?  It was just the natural consequence for any club that buys some decent players.

It was a model, yes. 

 

Otherwise we would have been raided in one season and we wasnt was we? 

[JimJams]

1 minute ago, Ashley said:

It was a model, yes. 

 

Otherwise we would have been raided in one season and we wasnt was we? 

If it was a model why didn't we sell Tielemans after the FA cup win?  Or Soyuncu the summer he made the PFL team of the season and would have had a high value?

We didn't want to sell them, so we didn't despite the formers contract situation and the latters subsequent omission from the side.  The players we sold for large sums were sold because they wanted to leave. It wasn't some masterplan.  It was circumstance.

[Clogger_]

I'd ask Pearson what to change, and do it

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Do you honestly think players care about a connection with where they live and the club?

 

Sorry but that's laughable unless you're born and bred.

 

So many pro players at all top flight clubs live away from the area and commute in their flashy cars to the ground/training facility.

 

They won't "buy into the community" because they know and expect to move on in 2-3 years. Particularly in the case of foreign players

I agree largely with you. I didn't word my point well..

 

It's the basic notion of 'dont live in Leicester it's a shithole' advice all the staff seem to get as they hurtle into gaffs in Nottingham. It sets the tone that the place is dying. 

 

I get that kasper Schmeichel.had never ever heard of bradgate park,.lol. but he never moved here. I get that. But to choose to move here and then be warned off and advised to move into west Bridgford - it sets the wrong tone 

 

 

[Fox85]

What to change hmmmm.

 

The top 5 biggest problems are in order are:

 

1. The happy clappers.

2. The Owner

3. Rudkin

4. Champions league wages for league 2 footballers.

5. No team ethic.

 

Get rid of all of those and Leicester will be a great football team again.

[CornwallFox]

14 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Absolutely not.

 

He hasn't made any recognisable or positive changes to how we play.

 

He's not even a league one level manager.

 

More Anstey Nomads.

Yeah I can understand that view, I'm not against changing manager, tbh I think we just have really poor players and given multiple managers haven't been able to get a tune out of them I'm struggling to blame him at this point (beyond, perhaps, not trying a youth striker). 

[Ashley]

16 minutes ago, JimJams said:

If it was a model why didn't we sell Tielemans after the FA cup win?  Or Soyuncu the summer he made the PFL team of the season and would have had a high value?

We didn't want to sell them, so we didn't despite the formers contract situation and the latters subsequent omission from the side.  The players we sold for large sums were sold because they wanted to leave. It wasn't some masterplan.  It was circumstance.

We didnt want to sell them or no one came in for them or even met our valuation of them? 

 

 

[marketharboroughfox]

In an ideal universe…

 

1. Downsize all the training facilities and non essentials so the upkeep is in line with top end Championship/lower Prem standards. The bloated stuff we have now isn’t doing us any favours on the pitch and is costing a fortune to maintain.

 

2. Institute an internal wage cap to something like 70-80% of turnover.

 

3. Sack everyone associated with the current regime.

 

4. Start next season’s squad from a clean slate-ideally none of this season’s squad.

 

5. Double down on reconnecting the club with the community in the form of outreach, open training sessions etc. With new players who actually want to be here and will have a point to prove that is considerably easier than doing it with players who gave up yonks ago.

[LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall]

I would add a bunker to the 7th green at Seagrave. That'll show the players who's boss

[LCFCJohn]

37 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Absolutely not.

 

He hasn't made any recognisable or positive changes to how we play.

 

He's not even a league one level manager.

 

More Anstey Nomads.

I don’t want us to keep him and agree he hasn’t made enough impact.

 

But of course he is a League 1 standard manager. Doesn’t mean he’d be right for us though.

[Silebyfox_89]

Some of my suggestions;

 

1) Send the first team back to Belvoir drive until promotion back to the prem. Need the incentive to get the pamper treatment back.

 

2) wage cap ratio back to 70% of turnover at the max.

 

3) make the fan zone and stadium concourse an enticing place to be with local vendors offering local food and drink options at reasonable prices. I.e. Pukka pies, round house brewing co etc...

 

4) fan engagement anyone know who this Imogen person is? Never heard from her in any form of communication, maybe do regular fan meet ups for regular feedback on how well the club is performing at a fan level.

 

These are aside from obvious ones already suggested on ownership, SLC and recruitment.

[Simonb]

1 hour ago, oxtonfox said:

That’s the start but it’s like asking the King to hand his crown and his train set over to someone else. Might need a Russian Revolution style change from the people/supporters but based on the general apathy to these well intentioned protests it needs some real togetherness. 

Only 'protests' that may get any attention are the ones where people stop going and dont spend a penny.. they dont care about marches and chants but I agree.. whatever people choose it needs to be unified 

[Parafox]

21 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I don’t want us to keep him and agree he hasn’t made enough impact.

 

But of course he is a League 1 standard manager. Doesn’t mean he’d be right for us though.

I'm not sure about that TBH.

 

Totally agree.

 

I'm not going to slag him off just because he hasn't done anything here. It's just another example of poor recruitment at so many levels.

 

I never thought he was the right guy for the job. It seemed like a last ditch effort to get someone in and anyone who would sign on the line would do.

 

Again, a failure by our owners and board.

 

How have we become so short sighted? 

Edited 14 April by Parafox

[LCFCJohn]

Just now, Parafox said:

I'm not sure about that TBH.

 

Totally agree.

He’s done a fair job at Championship level most of his managerial career. 
 

He’s let himself down not making an impact here, even in really adverse circumstances for any manager. I think people might have given him more of a chance if there had been effort to change things up.

 

But I get irrationally annoyed when Anstey Nomads gets chucked in there to dig out a player or manager, even though I don’t want to defend or don’t even like the individual in question. I think there is enough criticism we can give out without exaggerating.

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, LCFCJohn said:

But I get irrationally annoyed when Anstey Nomads gets chucked in there to dig out a player or manager, even though I don’t want to defend or don’t even like the individual in question. I think there is enough criticism we can give out without exaggerating.

 

It's just a way of criticising using a potential example. I could equally have said Oadby Town or Chesterfield.

 

Sometimes an exaggeration can make a point.

[TeppoPortin]

For various reasons this group of players have got too used to losing and the only way we can turn the mindset in the squad around is with a cull of the squad.  I would therefore tell all of the senior players that they will never get another contract extension at the club and make them all available for transfer to try to force them out.

 

We then need to recruit intelligently and within our budget, making sure we are clear on the reasons for signing every player, that they fit into a long term plan and that they contribute positively to team spirit as every strong Leicester team I can remember was built around that.  The blueprint for all of this is what Nigel Pearson did when we were relegated to League One before.  The only players that played a significant part in the 2008-09 squad who were part of the relegation team were Howard and Oakley who were only signed in the previous January, Mattock who was a youngster, and Fryatt.  Any others that remained were forced out or played a very minimal part.

 

Sadly whilst King Power and Rudkin are calling the shots I know none of that will happen.

[sylofox]

Owners

Directors

Recruitment 

 

Remove all prima donas and bad attitudes.

 

Start from the Top and work down.

 

[LCFCJohn]

19 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

It's just a way of criticising using a potential example. I could equally have said Oadby Town or Chesterfield.

 

Sometimes an exaggeration can make a point.

I’m disappointed in him as I am with a number of the players. But the fact remains that many of them will go on to play at a higher level than we will be at and Rowett will likely manage again at Championship level, possibly before we even get back. 
 

Hard to judge most of them with the state of this club currently….and when I say judge I mean true levels. 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

My pet peeve is the living in Nottingham thing. Players more or less told from the get go 'dont live in Leicester it's a shithole' sets the tone.  

 

Funnily enough,.players should take even more pride in backing local businesses of an unfashionable area. 

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that players who live in an area bond with it too. Ranieri in Stoneygate. Wilf in Cropston. Youri in Quorn. Vards a.bit further away but still local initially. 

 

A club needs to sell the life, the responsibility and not just the wages 

 

In our case, championing a relaxed lifestyle in Rutland, Harbourogh, Stoneygate, Woodhouse, Quorn Kirby Muxloe, Newton Linford should sell the concept of buying in to the community....much in the way the Manchester clubs 'sell' living in Cheshire 

 

 

 

 

Thing is Nottingham is equally a shithole. I honestly don’t get the hype about it. It’s one of the worst cities in the midlands and generally full of obnoxious bell ends whenever I’ve been.

 

Leicestershire has some nice areas, as nice as anywhere. The only thing it doesn’t have is sea.