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25 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Loan interest in Carr and Neale

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-academy-notebook-loans-11113514?utm_source=app
 

Ultimately, both look too good for Under-21 level, and a loan is the best next option for their development. "So each player will be different and we'll have to assess it over the next couple of weeks, but we're really clear on what certain players need," Martin told LeicestershireLive last week.
 

"Tommy Neale and Riley, [both] been fantastic in pre-season, Kevon [Gray] and Lorenz [Hutchinson] as well. Kirsten [Otchere] and Jake [Evans] have obviously gone out on loan already. So Riley and Tommy, for sure, are a bit older than the other guys, have had a lot of discussions and clubs interested.

 

"But if they do go out, we have to make sure it's really right for us and them, and that they're going out to a place that will insist on similar things that we're going to. Otherwise, they'll stay here and get the work they need and train with the first team every day and really sharpen the tools in that way.

 

"You'll see over the next couple of weeks, but we pretty much know what's going to be and they're clear on it as well, which is the most important bit."

Interesting mentioning them needing to play in similar systems/styles.... Not sure that thought went into Otchere and Evans? I mean they're with a brilliant coach but he certainly isn't playing the same style. 

Leaves us quite limited and likely loaning to someone in the same league, Peterborough for example with the links to Luke Williams.

Posted
29 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Loan interest in Carr and Neale

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-academy-notebook-loans-11113514?utm_source=app
 

Ultimately, both look too good for Under-21 level, and a loan is the best next option for their development. "So each player will be different and we'll have to assess it over the next couple of weeks, but we're really clear on what certain players need," Martin told LeicestershireLive last week.
 

"Tommy Neale and Riley, [both] been fantastic in pre-season, Kevon [Gray] and Lorenz [Hutchinson] as well. Kirsten [Otchere] and Jake [Evans] have obviously gone out on loan already. So Riley and Tommy, for sure, are a bit older than the other guys, have had a lot of discussions and clubs interested.

 

"But if they do go out, we have to make sure it's really right for us and them, and that they're going out to a place that will insist on similar things that we're going to. Otherwise, they'll stay here and get the work they need and train with the first team every day and really sharpen the tools in that way.

 

"You'll see over the next couple of weeks, but we pretty much know what's going to be and they're clear on it as well, which is the most important bit."

What's concerning about loaning them all out is if we get the level of injuries and unavailability we've had in recent years, couple that with how crap most of the senior players tend to be, then who comes in? 

 

You need to keep a few around.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

What's concerning about loaning them all out is if we get the level of injuries and unavailability we've had in recent years, couple that with how crap most of the senior players tend to be, then who comes in? 

 

You need to keep a few around.

I would rather take advantage of the versatility we have with players rather than keeping someone like Carr sat here because he might potentially get a couple of games off the bench because some senior has a knock

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Posted
8 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Interesting mentioning them needing to play in similar systems/styles.... Not sure that thought went into Otchere and Evans? I mean they're with a brilliant coach but he certainly isn't playing the same style. 

Leaves us quite limited and likely loaning to someone in the same league, Peterborough for example with the links to Luke Williams.

Might not be the same style of play overall but how they are expected to play themselves

 

Otchere was dropping deep at times for Cheltenham for example which is what would be expected of him here

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Posted
Just now, moore_94 said:

I would rather take advantage of the versatility we have with players rather than keeping someone like Carr sat here because he might potentially get a couple of games off the bench because some senior has a knock

Agreed if we have enough options in certain positions which out wide i'd say we do. But Lorenz Hutchinson for example, i'd be livid if we've loaned out 3 academy strikers and only have 1 recognised 1st team striker.

 

The same with Tommy Neale. We look to have 4 central midfielders in Hamza, Skipp, Braybrooke and Page. Suddenly lose a couple of those to injury and then what? 

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

What's concerning about loaning them all out is if we get the level of injuries and unavailability we've had in recent years, couple that with how crap most of the senior players tend to be, then who comes in? 

 

You need to keep a few around.

I’d love it if Carr & Hutchinson were kept around.
 

We don’t have a winger with pure pace like Carr. He’s behind quite a few players now though.

 

Hutchinson would be a real pest coming off the bench too

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Agreed if we have enough options in certain positions which out wide i'd say we do. But Lorenz Hutchinson for example, i'd be livid if we've loaned out 3 academy strikers and only have 1 recognised 1st team striker.

 

The same with Tommy Neale. We look to have 4 central midfielders in Hamza, Skipp, Braybrooke and Page. Suddenly lose a couple of those to injury and then what? 

 

But would you keep Hutchinson when he is very unlikely to ever really get on the bench when we only have 7 spaces?


I think we will definitely want another striker but it is clear we have other positions that are at the front of the queue for new signings

 

It may be 4 centre mids but you would need to look at it for the roles they play seeing as we seemingly play with a 6 (which all 4 of those could probably play) and then a pair of 8s you then also have to include Chaplin, Cullen, and probably Reid, maybe even Alves

Posted
6 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

I’d love it if Carr & Hutchinson were kept around.
 

We don’t have a winger with pure pace like Carr. He’s behind quite a few players now though.

 

Hutchinson would be a real pest coming off the bench too

I think it would be unfair to keep Carr here for this season if we have a chance to loan him out when there is probably 3 or 4 players ahead of him, and then you could also go for someone like Joseph as well if you wanted to

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I feel like Carr and Neale are right on the cusp. Probably Hutchinson too.

 

I think there are some creases to be ironed out with them and they need to be playing regularly just to get over that invisible line.

 

If they fulfil their potential on loan, I'd hope they'd be in contention for an early recall in Jan, same with Evans and Otchere

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Posted
3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I think it would be unfair to keep Carr here for this season if we have a chance to loan him out when there is probably 3 or 4 players ahead of him, and then you could also go for someone like Joseph as well if you wanted to

I know I was just talking purely as a fan and what would excite me. 
 

If they can get loans then great. Plus it means I have other teams to follow haha 

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Posted
Just now, Rubbersoul said:

I know I was just talking purely as a fan and what would excite me. 
 

If they can get loans then great. Plus it means I have other teams to follow haha 

The past few years it has been the only interesting thing to follow for us lol

Posted
5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

But would you keep Hutchinson when he is very unlikely to ever really get on the bench when we only have 7 spaces?


I think we will definitely want another striker but it is clear we have other positions that are at the front of the queue for new signings

 

It may be 4 centre mids but you would need to look at it for the roles they play seeing as we seemingly play with a 6 (which all 4 of those could probably play) and then a pair of 8s you then also have to include Chaplin, Cullen, and probably Reid, maybe even Alves

"Only 7 spaces" haha. Not a dig at you at all btw, it just reminds me that the big selling point of allowing more subs was that it'd give more opportunity for young players. What it ended up doing was just having clubs bloating their squads with journeymen/experience on decent money. 

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Posted
Just now, moore_94 said:

Should’ve been made a requirement that at least 1 of the places has to be an under 19, club academy player

 

Make it so there is always at least one on the bench and strict rules so it can’t be taken up by someone young who is on loan

Absolutely. As someone that plays FM and see's someone as 27+ as "on their way out" I'd go as far as saying 2 spots should be given to u20s from the academy haha.

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

The past few years it has been the only interesting thing to follow for us lol

I ended up watching more Northampton/Huddersfield/Chesterfield than Leicester second half of last season 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Agreed if we have enough options in certain positions which out wide i'd say we do. But Lorenz Hutchinson for example, i'd be livid if we've loaned out 3 academy strikers and only have 1 recognised 1st team striker.

 

The same with Tommy Neale. We look to have 4 central midfielders in Hamza, Skipp, Braybrooke and Page. Suddenly lose a couple of those to injury and then what? 

 

 

I agree but I don't want Carr and Neale sit on their ass getting no minutes.

 

We have seen from Braybrooke, Joseph and Alves how much a loan can kick on there development.

 

I think we still bring in a striker on loan.

 

 

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Just now, Kinowe Soorie said:

Hugo Charles March Phillipps De Lisle, poshest football ever?

Got to be, absolutely smashed Dewsbury-Hall for 6 hasn't he? lol

 

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Agreed if we have enough options in certain positions which out wide i'd say we do. But Lorenz Hutchinson for example, i'd be livid if we've loaned out 3 academy strikers and only have 1 recognised 1st team striker.

 

The same with Tommy Neale. We look to have 4 central midfielders in Hamza, Skipp, Braybrooke and Page. Suddenly lose a couple of those to injury and then what? 

 

 

The question is that if Bristric and Cordova Reid are injured do the club even see Hutchinson as the next in line or is it someone like Cullen? We might even play Watson, Burns or Opoku there before playing Hutchinson.

 

I'm unsure if the club even see Hutchinson as a striker as he keeps ending up on the wing.

 

I want him to go out on loan where he can establish his position at striker. A loan also seems to be a pre requisite to get game time here, as seen with Aluko and Page.

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Posted
Just now, honeybradger said:

The question is that if Bristric and Cordova Reid are injured do the club even see Hutchinson as the next in line or is it someone like Cullen? We might even play Watson, Burns or Opoku there before playing Hutchinson.

 

I'm unsure if the club even see Hutchinson as a striker as he keeps ending up on the wing.

 

I want him to go out on loan where he can establish his position at striker. A loan also seems to be a pre requisite to get game time here, as seen with Aluko and Page.

Pretty common for young strikers to be pushed out wide when they are young, even with greats of the game like Kane and Lineker.

 

I want him out on loan if it helps fast track him.

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