bald reynard Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 If I have heard correctly (and my sincere apologies if I am wrong), Gary Mac very sadly finally lost his wife to the 'Big C' before Christmas. Now he might well not want to consider getting back to full time employment at the present - but, as many say, he COULD need work to start afresh and live life again. Manager at City could be the chance for him - and for us ! Gary Mac at the helm, with a reliable assistant (such as Eric Black, who sorted at those Sky Blue Whingers with him - and after him) could be an ideal solution for us - IF he is ready ? I maintain he DID do a good job at Cov - and, with Eric Black, sorted things out, only for Peter Reid and a certain M Adams, to cock up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 I maintain he DID do a good job at Cov - and, with Eric Black, sorted things out, only for Peter Reid and a certain M Adams, to cock up His managerial record is worse than Craig Levein's and he's managed more games. That isn't to say that he can't improve, but surely there is no point wasting money on swapping like for like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 only for Peter Reid and a certain M Adams, to cock up What the frizz are talking about? Adams is doing a great job at Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 If I have heard correctly (and my sincere apologies if I am wrong), Gary Mac very sadly finally lost his wife to the 'Big C' before Christmas. Now he might well not want to consider getting back to full time employment at the present - but, as many say, he COULD need work to start afresh and live life again. Manager at City could be the chance for him - and for us ! Gary Mac at the helm, with a reliable assistant (such as Eric Black, who sorted at those Sky Blue Whingers with him - and after him) could be an ideal solution for us - IF he is ready ? I maintain he DID do a good job at Cov - and, with Eric Black, sorted things out, only for Peter Reid and a certain M Adams, to cock up Abosolutly baffeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 If McCallister does get the job when Levein goes then i'll be astounded. Any fans who want Levein out and to be replaced with him are hypocrites, he's worse than Levein! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 If I have heard correctly (and my sincere apologies if I am wrong), Gary Mac very sadly finally lost his wife to the 'Big C' before Christmas. Now he might well not want to consider getting back to full time employment at the present - but, as many say, he COULD need work to start afresh and live life again. Manager at City could be the chance for him - and for us ! Gary Mac at the helm, with a reliable assistant (such as Eric Black, who sorted at those Sky Blue Whingers with him - and after him) could be an ideal solution for us - IF he is ready ? I maintain he DID do a good job at Cov - and, with Eric Black, sorted things out, only for Peter Reid and a certain M Adams, to cock up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 We can't take a gamble as big as that I'm afraid. Get in a manager who has been proven to win things and plays a good brand of football. ie. Tilson, Gorman, Allen edit: and possibly Brian Laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 We can't take a gamble as big as that I'm afraid. Get in a manager who has been proven to win things and plays a good brand of football. ie. Tilson, Gorman, Allen Gorman is hardly proven is he? If half a season at the top of League 2 is proven then jesus we are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 Ok, I see your point but I'd rather have him than McCallister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 We can't take a gamble as big as that I'm afraid. Get in a manager who has been proven to win things and plays a good brand of football. ie. Tilson, Gorman, Allen Why does this blokes name keep popping up as proven??? his record is piss poor John Gorman Complete Number Of Games Managed: 138 Overall Win %: 30.43% Highest Level Managed At: Premiership Championship Experience: Yes Championship Record: W: 9, D: 4, L: 9 Championship Unbeaten %: 59.09% Championship Win %: 40.91% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderboy Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 Gorman is hardly proven is he? If half a season at the top of League 2 is proven then jesus we are in trouble. I agree i dont think he is qualified enuf altho my favourite is george graham or martin allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 Why does this blokes name keep popping up as proven??? his record is piss poor John Gorman Complete Number Of Games Managed: 138 Overall Win %: 30.43% Highest Level Managed At: Premiership Championship Experience: Yes Championship Record: W: 9, D: 4, L: 9 Championship Unbeaten %: 59.09% Championship Win %: 40.91% His Championship record isn't too bad, who was that at? 31 points from 22 games, a record we would love this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 Why does this blokes name keep popping up as proven??? his record is piss poor John Gorman Complete Number Of Games Managed: 138 Overall Win %: 30.43% Highest Level Managed At: Premiership Championship Experience: Yes Championship Record: W: 9, D: 4, L: 9 Championship Unbeaten %: 59.09% Championship Win %: 40.91% I've seen Wycombe a lot this season, and the football they are playing is stunning. Maybe these people mentioning Gorman have also seen more of Wycombe than yourself and are in a better posistion to judge him? It's not all about statistics is it. Also, Steffen Oakes is a fantastic player and would be a great signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 His Championship record isn't too bad, who was that at? 31 points from 22 games, a record we would love this season! Swindon, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 He may look a fantastic player in league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 I've seen Wycombe a lot this season, and the football they are playing is stunning. Maybe these people mentioning Gorman have also seen more of Wycombe than yourself and are in a better posistion to judge him? It's not all about statistics is it. Also, Steffen Oakes is a fantastic player and would be a great signing for us. Using the word proven, is still factually incorrect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 His Championship record isn't too bad, who was that at? 31 points from 22 games, a record we would love this season! Swindon (21 games) and Gillingham (1 game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 I've seen Wycombe a lot this season, and the football they are playing is stunning. Maybe these people mentioning Gorman have also seen more of Wycombe than yourself and are in a better posistion to judge him? It's not all about statistics is it. Also, Steffen Oakes is a fantastic player and would be a great signing for us. You raise some good points, but then every so often you let yourself down with comments like that and people struggle to take you seriously. Wasn't it your all time favourite manager that got rid of Oakes aswell for being crap? Mr Adams! Are you accusing the messiah of once making a mistake? How Dare Yow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 Swindon (21 games) and Gillingham (1 game) Thanks louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 anyone is better then craig, its not hard to beat 22nd place on the 5th highest wage budget surely. noone here knows what mcallister had at coventry and did he have 18 months of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 noone here knows what mcallister had at coventry and did he have 18 months of time? He had 20 months (give or take a few weeks). He had players like Jay Bothroyd, Calum Davenport, Matt Jansen, David Thompson and Lee Hughes as well as another eleven who are all still playing in the Championship, a couple still playing in the SPL and six or seven who are playing in good leagues abroad. He even had our own Walshie there for a bit. Apart from the fact he said "Who really cares what Neil Warnock says?" once I can't see why people would want him as a manager. I can't see why he'd want to come anyway so soon after his wife has died. He was great as a player for us but that doesn't mean he'll be great as a manager.. You say, 'anyone is better than craig' which is obviously not true. You might be trying to drive Craig out by making out that he's the devil but he wants to do a good job just as every manager does. Change for change sake doesn’t help, especially when you have to pay for it like we'd have to. Sacking the manager doesn't guarantee we'd go shooting up the league. If you want to get rid of him you actually have to think of a realistic alternative. Someone who is cheap, embodies the qualities that Craig apparently doesn't have, has a good record and preferably has managed at Championship level. Oh, and they have to want to come here as well. Does that sound like too much? It wouldn't be worth changing the manager for anything less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 17 January 2006 Share Posted 17 January 2006 did mcallister bring coventry to 22nd in the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted 18 January 2006 Share Posted 18 January 2006 did mcallister bring coventry to 22nd in the table? Did they ever finish in 22nd under McAllister? No. In his only full season with Coventry they finished 20th. Is there some point to that question? I take it you mean to imply that Levein is a worse manager than McAllister, I hate to break it to you, it's not the end of the season yet, so far the lowest Levein has finished in the Championship is 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 18 January 2006 Share Posted 18 January 2006 Did they ever finish in 22nd under McAllister? No. In his only full season with Coventry they finished 20th. Is there some point to that question? I take it you mean to imply that Levein is a worse manager than McAllister, I hate to break it to you, it's not the end of the season yet, so far the lowest Levein has finished in the Championship is 15th. Gary McCallister was also the manager when the sh** hit the fan during which time Coventry reduced their debts form £60 million to £23 million. Some on this forum hail Levein's puny savings relative to this. After stabilising the club in his only full season in charge he built the foundations for a late promotion charge the following year under Eric Black. He may not be everybody's cup of tea but be fair with the man's record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Honcho Posted 18 January 2006 Share Posted 18 January 2006 If McCallister does get the job when Levein goes then i'll be astounded. Any fans who want Levein out and to be replaced with him are hypocrites, he's worse than Levein! I wouldn't say he's worse then Levein, but no way is he ready to replace him. He had a hard time at Coventry and most of it wasn't his fault, but I would say that Levein is a much more experienced manager and replacing him with Gary would be ridiculous. I first met Gary when he signed for Leicester(he and Mauchlen lived round the corner),and although I haven't spoken to him for around 10 years, I'd be astounded if he thought he was ready for this job, I know he took the Coventry job but he was more or less pushed into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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