Webbo Posted 12 November 2008 Posted 12 November 2008 The Anthony Nolan Trust are looking for new volunteers in the Leicester area. Volunteers need to be in good health and between the ages of 18-40. There are some events planned for next week in Leicester. All it involves is a small blood sample and one day you might save someones life. List of places.
Thracian Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 I love this thread. It will never die. Yes, it's a cut above the rest.
AoWW Posted 11 April 2013 Posted 11 April 2013 Just wanted to resurrect this thread as organ donation seems to be fairly high profile in the news again. There are folks on here far more qualified than I am to discuss the benefits and details of this scheme (Monk, for example) but, for me, registering is a no-brainer. Spend a few minutes to consider these facts: Would you take an organ if you needed one? Nearly everyone would. But only 31% of us have joined the Organ Donor Register. More than 10,000 people in the UK currently need a transplant. Of these, 1000 each year – that's three a day - will die waiting as there are not enough organs available. More information can be found on this website, including a link to sign up on the Organ Donor Register... http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/
cambridgefox Posted 11 April 2013 Posted 11 April 2013 The wife and I have carried cards for years,and both of us without telling each other will donate everything except our corneas!Really don't know why as I will be dead,but felt uneasy about it.Weirdo.
AoWW Posted 11 April 2013 Posted 11 April 2013 I'm ridiculously squeamish about eyes and initially excluded corneas when I signed up. But, having given it some thought, I figured that to give the gift of sight to someone would be so amazing that I really couldn't justify putting my own sensibilities first. I do completely understand where you're coming from, though.
I am Rod Hull Posted 11 April 2013 Posted 11 April 2013 I`v seriously been thinking of leaving my body to medical science after i die, the mrs is ok with. http://www.ifishoulddie.co.uk/donating-a-body-for-medical-research-c56.html
ozleicester Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 Why wouldnt everyone donate their organs? i mean, even the "religious" folk (i think) believe that their soul leaves the body.. so, surely the left over bits are of no consequence to them? If you can... PLEASE sign up for organ donation
Jon the Hat Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I`v seriously been thinking of leaving my body to medical science after i die, the mrs is ok with. http://www.ifishoulddie.co.uk/donating-a-body-for-medical-research-c56.html My uncle did that., fantastic. It was weird having his cremation a year later though.
Tempwan Yierban Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 It should definitely be an 'opt out' system. I make sure to always carry my donor card with me. They can have anything of mine they want when I'm gone. I hope it helps somebody. My wife cried when I told her about it though. I suppose its not a nice thing to hear and she's likely to be the one who has to cope with it. I'll be dead.
Guest MattP Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I make sure to always carry my donor card with me. They can have anything of mine they want when I'm gone. I hope it helps somebody. Same here. Not sure on the opt out thing though, it's a good idea in principle and well meaning but I don't think we should be cutting up and removing things from the corpses of people who haven't given direct permission for people to do it.
Monk Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 Same here. Not sure on the opt out thing though, it's a good idea in principle and well meaning but I don't think we should be cutting up and removing things from the corpses of people who haven't given direct permission for people to do it. I think the argument against assumed consent isn't really all that different to the argument that churches have against gay marriage. 'I don't want some doctor letting me die so they can harvest my organs' is a rubbish argument. First of all - opt out if you feel that way. Same thing as gay marriage. Just because YOU don't like the idea doesn't mean it shouldn't become law - just opt out. Reading the guardian today and the usual hypochondriacs worrying about the moral argument of keeping people alive va saving another life. It's a non argument. With assumed consent there would be an ample supply of organs, and there would be no moral or economic incentive to give worse treatment to anyone in the hope of using their organs. Good to see this thread resurrected. When I first posted I'd had my kidney 6 years - now I've had it 13 and still going strong!
Webbo Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 My argument against assumed consent is that my body belongs to me, it doesn't belong to the Govt to do with as they wish. I can understand why people in need of a transplant would want this, my sister's partner has had one kidney transplant that didn't work and is waiting for another, but I don't like the principle involved.
Monk Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 My argument against assumed consent is that my body belongs to me, it doesn't belong to the Govt to do with as they wish. I can understand why people in need of a transplant would want this, my sister's partner has had one kidney transplant that didn't work and is waiting for another, but I don't like the principle involved. But that's exactly my point - if you don't like it, then opt out. What's the problem? If you don't opt out, the status of your organs is no different than it is now, and that is not 'government ownership'. When you're dead - the only person who can 'own' your organs is a transplant recipient. Of all the people involved, regardless of what happens to your organs - you don't have any ownership over them yourself, as you don't exist! My dad gave me my kidney, and I would argue that at no point did the NHS 'own' my dad's kidney. The kidney was his, now it's mine - it's pretty black and white. I don't see any 'government ownership' there.
Webbo Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 But that's exactly my point - if you don't like it, then opt out. What's the problem? If you don't opt out, the status of your organs is no different than it is now, and that is not 'government ownership'. When you're dead - the only person who can 'own' your organs is a transplant recipient. Of all the people involved, regardless of what happens to your organs - you don't have any ownership over them yourself, as you don't exist! My dad gave me my kidney, and I would argue that at no point did the NHS 'own' my dad's kidney. The kidney was his, now it's mine - it's pretty black and white. I don't see any 'government ownership' there. I shouldn't have to opt out, it's my kidney if you want it ask my permission. I've no problem giving it away. but the govt are not going to just take it.
21st Century Fox Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I shouldn't have to opt out, it's my kidney if you want it ask my permission. I've no problem giving it away. but the govt are not going to just take it. So millions of useable organs can just go to waste because people forget/don't bother to ever sign up to be a donor. Vast sums of money could of course be wasted having to advertise and drive people into signing up or organs can just be used as the owner no longer exists. The Government aren't taking a kidney and playing hacky sack with it, it's being used to further another human's existence as the previous owner no longer requires it.
Webbo Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 So millions of useable organs can just go to waste because people forget/don't bother to ever sign up to be a donor. Vast sums of money could of course be wasted having to advertise and drive people into signing up or organs can just be used as the owner no longer exists. The Government aren't taking a kidney and playing hacky sack with it, it's being used to further another human's existence as the previous owner no longer requires it. I'm sorry but that's the way I feel.
Monk Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I'm sorry but that's the way I feel. I still don't get this notion that the government owns your organs though? How does it differ from having a donor card? The organs would go through exactly the same process as they do now.
Zingari Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I agree with Webbo , I believe a person should actively state that their organs or body parts can be used , not just an assumption .
21st Century Fox Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I'm sorry but that's the way I feel. Personally that seems extremely petty. If you were ever in a situation where a relative required an organ and you knew of a viable donor in the same hospital but they hadn't ever filled out a form, so you were unable to prolong said relatives life and ease their suffering, you'd be absolutely beside yourself.
Monk Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 I agree with Webbo , I believe a person should actively state that their organs or body parts can be used , not just an assumption . Fine, but why? I'm yet to hear a convincing argument over and above 'it makes me feel uncomfortable'
Zingari Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 A person that feels his or her body parts can be used can easily say so , so what's the problem ? You don't just assume a person wants to leave his or her wealth to the NHS , why assume a person want to give their body parts?
ADK Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 It does seem odd really, it means someone has a vested interest in your death. By the time I hope to die no-one would want my organs.
ADK Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 Personally i hope we soon have the ability to grow organs artificially at which point this might all be unnecessary.
21st Century Fox Posted 12 April 2013 Posted 12 April 2013 They can prop me up against the operating theatre door and use me as a doorstop if it would help save another persons life, as I will have absolutely **** all knowledge of it.
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