jack_LCFC Posted 10 August 2006 Share Posted 10 August 2006 Everyone seems to love McCarthy, but I don't even think he's worth a first team place anymore because: He's not physically strong enough Not dominant in the air Too slow He was battered off the ball with a shoulder barge in the first half by the Burnley striker. We're still rubbish on set pieces and maybe a airially dominant centre back (e.g McAuly) would be better Does anyone else agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartonFox Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Everyone seems to love McCarthy, but I don't even think he's worth a first team place anymore because: He's not physically strong enough Not dominant in the air Too slow He was battered off the ball with a shoulder barge in the first half by the Burnley striker. We're still rubbish on set pieces and maybe a airially dominant centre back (e.g McAuly) would be better Does anyone else agree? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystonFox Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 slate our players why dont we. hey i think the walkers stadium is overrated, infact i doubt it even has 32,500 seats! shit ground dirty seats! shit ground dirty seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 No, wrong. Sorry. He's not overrated at all. By far and away our best player at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Honcho Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 He is over-rated but that's not to say he doesn't deserve a place in the starting line-up. McAuley is a fine replacement but he has it all to prove at this level. Remember Paddy is only 23 and will have learn't a lot last season giving him the captaincy will tell you one thing McAuley wasn't brought in as a replacement (unless we sell him) Give him time and I'm sure he'll improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 i wouldn't say he was too slow. I have always thought his pace is one of his assets. But like every player at the minute he seems a yard too slow. whether that is mental or physical i'm not to sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golden gordon Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 boney m were over rated too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Compared to the sort of C-Rap music I've been subjected to these recent years Boney M were a blessing. And I wish City could borrow the stardust they used at their peak, however much they're mocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Everyone seems to love McCarthy, but I don't even think he's worth a first team place anymore because: He's not physically strong enough Not dominant in the air Too slow He was battered off the ball with a shoulder barge in the first half by the Burnley striker. We're still rubbish on set pieces and maybe a airially dominant centre back (e.g McAuly) would be better Does anyone else agree? I doubt he'd get in the top 20 of City centre-backs - not competing against the likes of Ian King, Tony Knapp, Matt Elliott, Steve Walsh etc, but he's probably the least of our problems and I don't think we've got any saviours in that department waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 I doubt he'd get in the top 20 of City centre-backs - not competing against the likes of Ian King, Tony Knapp, Matt Elliott, Steve Walsh etc, but he's probably the least of our problems and I don't think we've got any saviours in that department waiting in the wings. I agree, I think it's pointless pointing fingers at players when the whole teams performance and it's individuals are poor and the fact that they have been hindered by poor tactics and selections!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Yes, he's over rated. With him being captain, I expect to see him not only have a strangle-hold on the deffence but keep the team on their toes aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadandcheese Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 As others have said, I think the whole team look slow, lacklustre and unfit. Compare players now to how they were performing last season. Good players like McCarthy, Hume, Fryatt, Stearman. Players with a bit of pace are now consistently second to every ball. Players who were consistently holding off players and holding the ball up are now being barged off the ball. Players who were winning things in the air are not doing so anymore. I think there is a general fitness level problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escape2victory Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 To succeed in this division you need a dominant CB and a dominant forward. This is something we dont possess. Maybe moving Hume out wide and playing O'Grady up front with Fryatt would give us more options in attack and I think playing McAuley at CB is a good option due to his size and should hopefully prevent goals from set pieces being scored. Maybe moving Kisnorbo to left back would accomodate McAuley into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Over rated by whom, every fan has a different opinion of players and rate them accordingly. So to the individual they can't be over rated. If you think it's the club over rating them, I haven't heard anyone from the club rate one player over another or indeed against players of other teams. This can only be based on the fact that he has been made captain, by implication making him the best captain. not the best player and not even the best CB. For all we know RK might think Kiso is the best centre back. Essentially it's all subjective and down to the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 My opinion on McCarthy changes frequently. I think what he lacks in talent he makes up for in passion, I think as he gets older he'll get better. He's not premiership class and probably won't ever be but at this level he should become solid and reliable. I hope Stearman can fulfill his potential, I know it's only 2 games but he's looked well off key so far and I hope he isn't levelling out. Youngsters do do this though, we've had a great season out of him for nothing. I just hope we get plenty more aswell because he has the ability to be a very good player. But if his form doesn't improve he should be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 I think a lot of it is psychological with Stearman. Previously, he was battling against Maybury to establish himself. Most thought that one or other would be dropped. But Kelly did the unexpected and accommodated both to the point where neither has really been battling for a place. The two shake hands in a bonding ritual and operate as a pair. Result for Stearman is he's got complacent. He's achieved the first ambition of any Academy footballer by becoming a first team regular. What Kelly should be doing is pointing to Chris O'Grady as an example and making sure that Stearman has one thought on his mind from Monday morning until Saturday's kick off and that is to become a better and more consistent player because he's proved nothing as yet. And if Maybury stays, the sooner he becomes simply the rival to Stearman for his right back place, the sooner you guarantee that Stearman fully focuses on his work once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBO Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 It took me a while to warm to McCarthy, originally I thought he was too hot-headed, got out of position too much, was too slow and was a yellow/red card waiting to happen. I still have a couple of reservations about him but on the whole I think he's grown into one of the better players at the club over the last season, and definitely a player worthy of the captain's armband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loake Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 I like him, but he is often all over his attacker which could lead to stupid free-kicks. I also think we need at least one tall centre back, Kisnorbo and paddy mac are both relatively small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartonFox Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Every time the opposition get towards our penalty area or score a goal you see Paddy McCarhey diving in too late to do anything. Why is he diving in? Because he is too slow in getting there in the first place. How on earth he was made captain is beyond me, he is about as inspirational as wet kitchen towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Every time the opposition get towards our penalty area or score a goal you see Paddy McCarhey diving in too late to do anything. Why is he diving in? Because he is too slow in getting there in the first place. How on earth he was made captain is beyond me, he is about as inspirational as wet kitchen towel. May I ask what analogy you'd give to Tiatto's inspirational capabilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 May I ask what analogy you'd give to Tiatto's inspirational capabilities? That's not fair!. They'd struggle with that one on Mastermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Out of interest who was it who made Tiatto skipper in the first bloody place?! Anyone would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wils Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Out of interest who was it who made Tiatto skipper in the first bloody place?! Anyone would have been better. Adams i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 Adams i think ...I'd have expected him to know better, then again up until Adams left i can imagine Tiatto actually looked promising, but you'd have thought after Muzzy there would have been a better sodding choice than Tiatto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 11 August 2006 Share Posted 11 August 2006 ...I'd have expected him to know better, then again up until Adams left i can imagine Tiatto actually looked promising, but you'd have thought after Muzzy there would have been a better sodding choice than Tiatto Thats bollocks any way it was Levein who made him club captain. Adams made Dion club captin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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