Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 Sorry to say everyone but i dont think we will be involved in any transfer activity today. I think Dodds, Sheehan and Gradel will all go out on loan.
Manwell Pablo Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 If Hammond goes today it would be a massive vote of confidence in Louis Dodds. Personally I think there's about a 0.000000001% chance of a) someone wanting him and b) Kelly suddenly rating Dodds enough to let him be 4th choice striker. Worried as I am about the fact he's nearly 20 and has never established himself as a first teams. He'd score more goals then Hammond, I think we'd be happyily take 350,00 maybe even 300,000 . Your quite right about no one wanting him though.
dandannieldanok Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 If Hammond was to go, I think any potential buyers would want him on loan first.
Stevosevic Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 TBH i would be quite happy, like RK said yesterday, if nothing happened. We don't want last years fiasco where we were forced to rush into signing Hammond and Hume (although this turned out to be a good buy). i would like to see some of the useless players leave, but of course transfers take quite a while to go through these days.
Finn Claw Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 TBH i would be quite happy, like RK said yesterday, if nothing happened. We don't want last years fiasco where we were forced to rush into signing Hammond and Hume (although this turned out to be a good buy). CL wasn't forced into signing Hammond we had him on loan untill the end of the season, worst signing of CLs reign i reckon in terms of the price paid for him
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Stearman may have had a shaky start to the season but, at his best, there's no way Kenton should be keeping him out. Another concern is that Stearman is a really big pal of lots of City's best youngsters so, with Welsh also able to feed some input into Sunderland, you could find that I'm by no means the only one who rates so many of them so highly. Gradel, Dodds, perhaps even Chambers, may well attract attention because they are not getting any opportunities here that I'm noticing, and that's not to mention those who are starting to establish themselves and who Loughran/Welsh will have seen on a daily basis (Porter/O'Grady). If the view prevails that Stearman's going be understudy for Kenton, completely misguided to my mind, then we might as well get a decent price (plus add ons, presumably) and give ourselves a bit of financial daylight and/or the chance to pay off a chunk of the stadium debt cos it's that which seems to be our major constraint. If not then it is paramount that we fast-forward the development of our young side and see if they cannot make a genuine push for promotion. I can only see Kelly getting until January to show that's happening - via the probable inclusion of Gradel and the involvement of Dodds/Sheehan. Otherwise we'll be heading into another season before that policy can bring rewards and the pressure to sell those kids will increase because (if there's no Mandaric) our financies will be weaker partly through not playing/publicising our best/most exciting team from the start this season - and through not parading it beforehand. A big problem to me is that if Sheehan's not good enough, as is indicated week on week by his exclusion from the squad, and Stearman goes, we don't have great defensive alternatives coming through the youth set up, a point I made many months ago, and what we presently have as alternatives to the youngsters at full-back (Maybury, Kenton, Nils, Tiatto) is not really good enough to support the attack consistently, quickly and effectively. It is imperative we have two fast, durable, attacking full-backs and another of similar ilk in midfield. The Sterman decision is an important one - and surely indicative of our policy for the immediate future at least.
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Its a good point that, he may not be the only one of our youngsters Sunderland may attempt to table a bid for today. No deal for Stearmen should be accepted, we should make it perfectly clear we have one right back up for sale and his name is Alan Maybury, special Deadline day price of 750,000 pounds That very thought crossed my mind. Not the same figure though.
SydneyFC Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Sunderland are after everyone. They may have taken Yorke away from Sydney FC...
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 If Hammond goes today it would be a massive vote of confidence in Louis Dodds. Personally I think there's about a 0.000000001% chance of a) someone wanting him and b) Kelly suddenly rating Dodds enough to let him be 4th choice striker. I disagree. I think Kelly does rate Dodds. But he appears to be working on some finishing touches and in the meantime has been keen for Hammond to get some exposure that might be to the club's benefit in one or two ways. Sometimes management is many faced.
Manwell Pablo Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Stearman may have had a shaky start to the season but, at his best, there's no way Kenton should be keeping him out. Another concern is that Stearman is a really big pal of lots of City's best youngsters so, with Welsh also able to feed some input into Sunderland, you could find that I'm by no means the only one who rates so many of them so highly. Gradel, Dodds, perhaps even Chambers, may well attract attention because they are not getting any opportunities here that I'm noticing, and that's not to mention those who are starting to establish themselves and who Loughran/Welsh will have seen on a daily basis (Porter/O'Grady). If the view prevails that Stearman's going be understudy for Kenton, completely misguided to my mind, then we might as well get a decent price (plus add ons, presumably) and give ourselves a bit of financial daylight and/or the chance to pay off a chunk of the stadium debt cos it's that which seems to be our major constraint. If not then it is paramount that we fast-forward the development of our young side and see if they cannot make a genuine push for promotion. I can only see Kelly getting until January to show that's happening - via the probable inclusion of Gradel and the involvement of Dodds/Sheehan. Otherwise we'll be heading into another season before that policy can bring rewards and the pressure to sell those kids will increase because (if there's no Mandaric) our financies will be weaker partly through not playing/publicising our best/most exciting team from the start this season - and through not parading it beforehand. A big problem to me is that if Sheehan's not good enough, as is indicated week on week by his exclusion from the squad, and Stearman goes, we don't have great defensive alternatives coming through the youth set up, a point I made many months ago, and what we presently have as alternatives to the youngsters at full-back (Maybury, Kenton, Nils, Tiatto) is not really good enough to support the attack consistently, quickly and effectively. It is imperative we have two fast, durable, attacking full-backs and another of similar ilk in midfield. The Sterman decision is an important one - and surely indicative of our policy for the immediate future at least. Whats your problem with Kenton he's very good at the back has good distrubution, hardly ever hoofs and "links defense to attack" well. Improved our squad no end! gets foward better then any of our defenders. All Stearmen has done this season is hoof until he was dropped! Admitidly in a perfect world it would be Stearmen right back Kenton left back.
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 Stearman may have had a shaky start to the season but, at his best, there's no way Kenton should be keeping him out. Another concern is that Stearman is a really big pal of lots of City's best youngsters so, with Welsh also able to feed some input into Sunderland, you could find that I'm by no means the only one who rates so many of them so highly. Gradel, Dodds, perhaps even Chambers, may well attract attention because they are not getting any opportunities here that I'm noticing, and that's not to mention those who are starting to establish themselves and who Loughran/Welsh will have seen on a daily basis (Porter/O'Grady). If the view prevails that Stearman's going be understudy for Kenton, completely misguided to my mind, then we might as well get a decent price (plus add ons, presumably) and give ourselves a bit of financial daylight and/or the chance to pay off a chunk of the stadium debt cos it's that which seems to be our major constraint. If not then it is paramount that we fast-forward the development of our young side and see if they cannot make a genuine push for promotion. I can only see Kelly getting until January to show that's happening - via the probable inclusion of Gradel and the involvement of Dodds/Sheehan. Otherwise we'll be heading into another season before that policy can bring rewards and the pressure to sell those kids will increase because (if there's no Mandaric) our financies will be weaker partly through not playing/publicising our best/most exciting team from the start this season - and through not parading it beforehand. A big problem to me is that if Sheehan's not good enough, as is indicated week on week by his exclusion from the squad, and Stearman goes, we don't have great defensive alternatives coming through the youth set up, a point I made many months ago, and what we presently have as alternatives to the youngsters at full-back (Maybury, Kenton, Nils, Tiatto) is not really good enough to support the attack consistently, quickly and effectively. It is imperative we have two fast, durable, attacking full-backs and another of similar ilk in midfield. The Sterman decision is an important one - and surely indicative of our policy for the immediate future at least. Your in a dream world if you really think that Roy Keane would sign Alan Sheehan, Louis Dodds or Max Gradel for his first team. They'd get less of a chance up there than here. We've introduced 6 academy players in to our team over the last season, that's quite alot compared to other clubs. Chambers is only 16, it's far too early to talk about having limited chances when your that age! Our youngsters have gone on record to say what a great club it is for them to be at because they get a chance. Not all of them will get a chance at the same time though because a) some might progress quicker than others b) our current first team players might be better than them in their position and c) the manager might not rate them all. So i'll bare my cheeks in burtons window if Dodds, Gradel or Sheehan turn up there and get first team football this season.
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I think Dodds, Sheehan and Gradel will all go out on loan. I hope not. I think Dodds should definitely be in our first four strikers assuming he's been kept fully fit, and Gradel is aleady a much more exciting footballer than Low. Sheehan, I don't know. If his problems aren't about the confidence/trying-too-hard things I mentioned, this might be the best option but that wouldn't be hopeful cos what we've got in that position is hardly inspiring, and should have been attended to in the summer.
Jimmy Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Sunderland are after everyone. They may have taken Yorke away from Sydney FC... yorke seems to have dismissed that move on sky
dandannieldanok Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 yorke seems to have dismissed that move on sky I'm not suprised, would you really want to move from australia to drab and dreary wearside.
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 I hope not. I think Dodds should definitely be in our first four strikers assuming he's been kept fully fit, and Gradel is aleady a much more exciting footballer than Low. Sheehan, I don't know. If his problems aren't about the confidence/trying-too-hard things I mentioned, this might be the best option but that wouldn't be hopeful cos what we've got in that position is hardly inspiring, and should have been attended to in the summer. I'd welcome a loan move for all 3 if it was for no longer than 3 months and then assess it at christmas. I'd have all 3 available for recall if need be, but there's no point them being here just to play in the odd behind closed doors friendly matches. Dodds should be fourth choice but he isn't, so get him out on loan to show Kelly that he's ready.
Manwell Pablo Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I hope not. I think Dodds should definitely be in our first four strikers assuming he's been kept fully fit, and Gradel is aleady a much more exciting footballer than Low. Sheehan, I don't know. If his problems aren't about the confidence/trying-too-hard things I mentioned, this might be the best option but that wouldn't be hopeful cos what we've got in that position is hardly inspiring, and should have been attended to in the summer. Well I hope all three go out on loan, Dodds aside if we get rid of Hammond . Bit of a stupid statement to make RE Low as you've probabley only seen him play about four games, and have only seen Gradel at reserve level. If I didn't know better I'd say you were being at biast.
Stevosevic Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~890596,00.html been confirmed by the OS.
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Your in a dream world if you really think that Roy Keane would sign Alan Sheehan, Louis Dodds or Max Gradel for his first team. They'd get less of a chance up there than here. We've introduced 6 academy players in to our team over the last season, that's quite alot compared to other clubs. Chambers is only 16, it's far too early to talk about having limited chances when your that age! Our youngsters have gone on record to say what a great club it is for them to be at because they get a chance. Not all of them will get a chance at the same time though because a) some might progress quicker than others b) our current first team players might be better than them in their position and c) the manager might not rate them all. So i'll bare my cheeks in burtons window if Dodds, Gradel or Sheehan turn up there and get first team football this season. Don't think I mentioned Sheehan in that context at all. And it's certainly not anything I'd expect. Nor did I say Dodds/Gradel would necessarily get first team football there this season although, on relfection, I cannot imagine why they wouldn't get a place on the bench at least sometimes. They should certainly be on City's bench from what I've seen. I think Kelly does rate them, he's apparently been working hard on both. I think it's more a case of how many he wants to involve at once. The old experience element coming into things again.
davieG Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~890596,00.htmlbeen confirmed by the OS. Stearman Bid Rejected Leicester City have reaffirmed their commitment to developing and building their professional playing squad by rejecting out of hand an official bid for England youth international defender Richard Stearman. Fellow Championship club Sunderland made an approach for Stearman which was immediately rejected. Manager Rob Kelly said: "In Richard we believe we have one of the very best young players in this country. "We are in the business of building and developing a squad of players here to bring future success to this football club." Nice to see it's a strong response, although that doen't in itself mean he's not going, it could just produce a bigger bid.
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~890596,00.html been confirmed by the OS. That's that then. I hope Kelly is as determined at eradicating that long ball pass from Richard's game as he is in that statement.
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 Don't think I mentioned Sheehan in that context at all. And it's certainly not anything I'd expect. Nor did I say Dodds/Gradel would necessarily get first team football there this season although, on relfection, I cannot imagine why they wouldn't get a place on the bench at least sometimes. They should certainly be on City's bench from what I've seen. I think Kelly does rate them, he's apparently been working hard on both. I think it's more a case of how many he wants to involve at once. The old experience element coming into things again. Apologies for that. when I read it it sounded like you were implying that Keane might well come in and snap up the above mentioned as they aren't getting first team football here.
Jon the Hat Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 That's that then. I hope Kelly is as determined at eradicating that long ball pass from Richard's game as he is in that statement. It would have to be a lot of money to go back on that statement. No one like to look like they have been talking crap.
davieG Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 It would have to be a lot of money to go back on that statement. No one like to look like they have been talking crap. But it does happen time and time again, I still believe taht a big bid will get the club to say yes, although I honestly can't see Stearman wanting to go.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I think he'd love Sunderland, he seems to spend most of his Saturday nights at a shit club.
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Whats your problem with Kenton he's very good at the back has good distrubution, hardly ever hoofs and "links defense to attack" well. Improved our squad no end! gets foward better then any of our defenders. All Stearmen has done this season is hoof until he was dropped! Admitidly in a perfect world it would be Stearmen right back Kenton left back. From what I've seen Kenton seems totally unable to deliver a final ball into the box, thus wasting his attacking activity. But it's still hard to argue with your last line and, as Ric suggests, Sheehan should go out on loan because, like last season, he seems to be totally wasting his time here right now and would perhaps benefit from a different scene, though somehow I'm beginning to doubt it. In any case, if he's not going to be better than Nils/Kenton/Maybury the sooner he's off the better. Shame, cos he could have been an excellent player, but I accept that he hasn't necessarily helped himself despite his shabby treatment.
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