West Brom Match Thread

[Steven]

Fulltime

West Brom 1-1 Leicester City

I wish it was.

[Mark]

Judging from what you guys have said we had a good first half and it went downhill from there?

We didn't have a shot on target all game, it was all downhill from the second we kicked off.

As I've mentioned before, a change to the approach in away games is needed.

[Manwell Pablo]

We didn't have a shot on target all game, it was all downhill from the second we kicked off.

As I've mentioned before, a change to the approach in away games is needed.

To be fair I don't think its the approcah I think we just look shit.

[Foxhateram]

That was by far the best game iv heard for a while, and you really cant dis the amount of effort put in today. We were unlucky, and its a shame we lost 0-0 would have been fair, and keeping them off for that long proves that we are better than most assume or say. Bring on the next team, West brom will be promoted this year no doubt about it. and we will be up there if we play with the comitment and effort we did today in every game.

your veiws? P.S dont dis Kenton because of one own goal he played well today, and that was just unlucky.

[Mark]

To be fair I don't think its the approcah I think we just look shit.

That was down to the approach, to frustrate West Brom which worked for a while. The problem was we didn't change our approach throughout the game to attack and take advantage when their fans were showing their frustration. So what was the point in frustrating them in the first place?

We're not even a good team defensively when under pressure, playing for a 0-0 draw is rarely going to pay off. We would have been better off playing to win the game and not see how long we can frustrate them at 0-0.

Instead, we sit with 1 point out of 3 away games, and 0 goals. That'll do nothing for confidence.

[Manwell Pablo]

That was down to the approach, to frustrate West Brom which worked for a while. The problem was we didn't change our approach throughout the game to attack and take advantage when their fans were showing their frustration. So what was the point in frustrating them in the first place?

We're not even a good team defensively when under pressure, playing for a 0-0 draw is rarely going to pay off. We would have been better off playing to win the game and not see how long we can frustrate them at 0-0.

Instead, we sit with 1 point out of 3 away games, and 0 goals. That'll do nothing for confidence.

Agreed, but we can't even string 5 passes togther by the sound of it so I don't se how were going to effectively attack, we started with enough attacking players they just did very little.

Give the Baggies their dues its unfair to call them poor. Without Curtis there defense is still one of the best in the league. They've had Carter peppering our goal, Phillips and Harton both went very close and they beat us two nill.

[Cat Burger]

I feel indifferent.

[Wils]

Instead, we sit with 1 point out of 3 away games, and 0 goals. That'll do nothing for confidence.

Thats a big problem i was thinking the same.

We need to score more goals away from home and really get at teams or were never going to get anything away.

Weve got to win against Hull on tuesday.

[Manwell Pablo]

Thats a big problem i was thinking the same.

We need to score more goals away from home and really get at teams or were never going to get anything away.

Weve got to win against Hull on tuesday.

Well A away goal would be a start.

How can Kelly say we deserved something out of the game we were under pressure for most of the game.

.........thats it im going pub.

[Dr The Singh]

Well A away goal would be a start.

How can Kelly say we deserved something out of the game we were under pressure for most of the game.

.........thats it im going pub.

Outplayed in the second half, city were pinned back and just lofted long balls to the forwards once again, no excuses city deserved to lose!!!!

[bigneville]

Just got back from the game.

Great effort by the city side. First 70 mins deserved a point.

All went wrong when Low went off for Stearman in my eyes.

We settled for the point and they just kept coming with waves and waves of attacks.

Very unlucky for the goal Kenton, but what was he doing? You'll see when you see the goals.

If we play like that against most sides we will get something out of the game.

[Matt]

Just got back from the game.

Great effort by the city side. First 70 mins deserved a point.

All went wrong when Low went off for Stearman in my eyes.

We settled for the point and they just kept coming with waves and waves of attacks.

Very unlucky for the goal Kenton, but what was he doing? You'll see when you see the goals.

If we play like that against most sides we will get something out of the game.

Is it just coincidence it goes tits up when Stearman plays or does Stearman effect the way we play, Don't get me wrong I like Stearman and last season he was one off (IMO) our better players but so far this season from what I have seen of him hes

[Mort]

Levein's new club???

If only

[stez]

Is it just coincidence it goes tits up when Stearman plays or does Stearman effect the way we play, Don't get me wrong I like Stearman and last season he was one off (IMO) our better players but so far this season from what I have seen of him hes

whenever i've seen him recently his passing has been all over the place.....at the boston friendly he never looked where he was 'passing' and i've seen no difference after that. it's something he needs to work on for sure

[Dr The Singh]

whenever i've seen him recently his passing has been all over the place.....at the boston friendly he never looked where he was 'passing' and i've seen no difference after that. it's something he needs to work on for sure

I suppose that's why he's on the bench at the mo!!

City play for the smash and grab away from home, which with the quality we have in our team, it doesn't seem as though we will get many points.

[Thracian]

Did someone say we were unlucky?

Not from where I was sitting. We were slaughtered right from the moment our manager surrendered the game.

Leicester did well enough first half. West Brom were restricted to just a couple of meaningful chances to our one and territorially you'd never have guessed which was the home team at the break.

Then came our inspirational half-time team talk and what happened?.

Kelly caught the SGE disease and lost his nerve. He tried to sit on his 0-0 and totally, wilfully, completely surendered possession and the game.

Our strikers were simply abandoned. We sat further and further back for no excusable reason whatsover.

Hughes disappeared completely and, with Johnson little better, our central midfield went awol and was totally overrun.

Porter was forced to move inside which narrowed the game and made it even more impossible for anyone in possession to find an available colleague.

RK deserved less than 2/10 for his performance today.

Kenton's own goal was a catastrophic and inexplicable mistake and the penalty was reckless but both came about because Championship level defenders cannot sustain unrelenting pressure indefinitely.

We conceded two goals, exactly as expected but only because we left a great big gap between what became a token attack and our supposedly blanket defensive line.

Not one of Kelly's substitutions made any sense at all. In fact every decision he made worsened our predicament.

DavieG made a point sitting beside me when he said Levein was always criticised for playing people out of position. Well what the bloody hell was he doing playing Stearman right wing?

It was a variation on the equally stupid Stearman/Maybury theme, it was designed to involve a good player and it was an excercise in seeing if a fish could swim out of water. He couldn't.

Hume was much needed but as well as Fryatt, not instead, and Wesolowski was always needed...but why the hell Porter and Low made way instead of Johnson and Hughes only Kelly himself can explain because our beleaguered team desperately needed wide options for their passing which early in the second half had virtually disappeared altogether.

Kelly might be a wonderful coach - at least according to reputation - but he ended up making West Brom look brilliant.

Good points?

Kicking apart, Henderson gave the best display by a city goalkeeper that I have seen for ages - three of his saves being top class.

O'Grady worked himself to a standstill, won 50-50 balls galore and set up two or three excellent chances for Fryatt but none of our strikers are going to find it easy to score if there's nobody coming through from midfield to help.

Kisnorbo was like a colossus for so much of the time but must have felt like the leader of soldiers caught in an ambush by the end.

Porter tried unceasinly to keep playing football but even he found it hard with no supply coming from midfield and then increasingly having to do the midfielders' work for them. No wonder he ended up knackered.

There really has to be a tactical rethink. Starting with major repairs to our midfield. And an abandonment of stupid ideas like playing Stearman on the right wing when we could have Gradel as a sub. We have to have faith in our ability to attack because we don't have the ability to defend without respite.

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[Muz]

I've just got back and feel hard done to.

We lack creativity in the midfield , nobody from midfield ever looks like scoring goals. Hume is the answer to this I reckon. Put Hume just behind O'Grady and Fryatt , Low and Porter as wingers and Wesolowski as holding midfielder.

O'Grady today wasted 2 or 3 good chances to get the ball across the face of the goal when he beat a man, Instead he went for goal when there was 1 or 2 players in good positions. I dont think Stearman coming on was the reason we lost like some people are saying , we lost the game because we lost concentration. fock knows what Kenton was doing , he's in his own world most of the time anyway does'nt seem to have any urgency and he's half asleep.

In order for us to progress I think Hume has to have a part in the team , he did'nt do alot when he came on but he just has that little bit of skill to unlock a defence.

[Thracian]

To be fair I don't think its the approcah I think we just look shit.

Six away games without a win and two goals scored. No, it couldn't possibly be the approach could it?.

[Filbert_Ross]

did we have a shot??

it resembled the Andorra game.

[Maybes]

Just got back from the game.

Great effort by the city side. First 70 mins deserved a point.

All went wrong when Low went off for Stearman in my eyes.

We settled for the point and they just kept coming with waves and waves of attacks.

Very unlucky for the goal Kenton, but what was he doing? You'll see when you see the goals.

If we play like that against most sides we will get something out of the game.

Dont know what game you were watching big nev??? CLearly not the same one as me

We were cr@p. Lacked everything!

[Filbert_Ross]

Dont know what game you were watching big nev??? CLearly not the same one as me

We were cr@p. Lacked everything!

i watched the same game as you.

[Simon]

Didn't go today as had to work, but will take everyones word from it. It seems to me that once again the midfield is the problem. Our defence is strong enough (provided it doesn't have to defend for 90 minutes!). And I do believe that COG, Fryatt and Hume will come good. There is more and more support now for a Hume/Weso central mid partnership and I'm beginning to believe now that it could unlock some doors for us.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to try it.

[Thracian]

I've just got back and feel hard done to.

We lack creativity in the midfield , nobody from midfield ever looks like scoring goals. Hume is the answer to this I reckon. Put Hume just behind O'Grady and Fryatt , Low and Porter as wingers and Wesolowski as holding midfielder.

O'Grady today wasted 2 or 3 good chances to get the ball across the face of the goal when he beat a man, Instead he went for goal when there was 1 or 2 players in good positions. I dont think Stearman coming on was the reason we lost like some people are saying , we lost the game because we lost concentration. fock knows what Kenton was doing , he's in his own world most of the time anyway does'nt seem to have any urgency and he's half asleep.

In order for us to progress I think Hume has to have a part in the team , he did'nt do alot when he came on but he just has that little bit of skill to unlock a defence.

That is exactly what he should do, with Williams as back up on the bench and Gradel as substitute if he wants a right winger not some sodding full-back. Put Stearman back in his rightful position and Kenton or Nils at left back (not that Nils played badly today but he doesn't support the attack more than very occasionally).

Our older defenders are okay under pressure but they simply do not help to link defence and attack. We need to have that link.It is plain to see every day our team turns out. It I had my way of course, I'd get Sheehan back tomorrow because i'm disgusted that he ever left.

[Muz]

That is exactly what he should do, with Williams as back up on the bench and Gradel as substitute if he wants a right winger not some sodding full-back. Put Stearman back in his rightful position and Kenton or Nils at left back (not that Nils played badly today but he doesn't support the attack more than very occasionally).

Our older defenders are okay under pressure but they simply do not help to link defence and attack. We need to have that link.It is plain to see every day our team turns out.

My thoughts exactly.

Henderson

Sheehan

McCarthy

Kisnorbo

Stearman

Porter

Wesolowski

Hume

Low

Fryatt

O'Grady

I no thats a very youthful team but I think its the way forward. Players that are in there natural positions for once. To play that team we would need the younger players to be very mature mentally. I dont know if Im clutching at straws here!

[DaveyJ]

Also didn't go. However it sounds like always that the central midfield pairing is letting us down. Every other position imo is filled well enough. The defense seems solid, Porter and Low are good on the wings and Fryatt/HUme/O'Grady should start scoring (although that does seem to depend largely on the midfield improving) The problem is I can't see any way to improve things. Williams isn't consistent enough and Hughes isn't good enough, it also doesn't seem that Johnson is really good enough. Weso could (and one day hopefully will) be good enough; but he's young and I don't think quite ready for a full season. So who else is there? I think a loan deal needs to be struck.