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Jamie Oliver - twat or tosser?

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The other thing that annoys me, is that he shouldn't really question how other parent's raise their children.

You don't see people telling him how to cook.

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What a load of claptrap is being trotted out here. You only have to look around you to see the unhealthy overweight state of a majority of kids today. If Oliver chooses to highlight what he considers to be one of the major reasons - parents neglecting their responsibity over their kids diet - then what the heck is the problem?

clap trap

the majority of kids are not overweight blobs, and are not really that different to when i was at school and to call parents what he did will only get peoples backs up. i've already stated what i do with my kid, and i won't bother listening to what he says anymore as he's lost any respect i might've had for him, i'll just carry on doing what i do. which is the best i can.

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clap trap

the majority of kids are not overweight blobs, and to call parents what he did will only get peoples backs up. i've already stated what i do with my kid, and i won't bother listening to what he says anymore as he's lost any respect i might've had for him, i'll just carry on doing what i do. which is the best i can.

Good to hear that... However, you don't have to look very far to find other people who, quite simply, should not be allowed to have kids. As for the weight issue, I thought it was common knowledge that obesity amongst both adults and children is at an all time high. Surely you would agree that this is not an ideal situation.

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Good to hear that... However, you don't have to look very far to find other people who, quite simply, should not be allowed to have kids.

Fat-tongued Mockney wankers, top of the list. I'd rather see lard-arses blocking the pavement with their seal-like offspring than self-righteous, celebrity-seeking Essex caaants with no fecking self-awareness, any day.

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Absolute knobhead. Thought he was good at first but now he needs to shut up and stop trying to steal Gordon "The God" Ramsey's thunder :)

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It's a lifestyle problem.

The streets are run by yob's in poorer neighbourhoods so the kids stay home and spend their free time in front of a TV, computer or XBox snacking and drinking Mums chardonnay.

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It's a lifestyle problem.

The streets are run by yob's in poorer neighbourhoods so the kids stay home and spend their free time in front of a TV, computer or XBox snacking and drinking Mums chardonnay.

That is an offensive post. I'm from one of those poorer neighbourhoods, and, not all kids coming from these areas are like that. Infact, a lot of the people from the area I'm from are pretty well-behaved and are prepared to try and get an education. Sure there are a couple of "yobs", but nobody is scared of them and they certainly don't run the streets around here. None of them sit in at home either all the time drinking Chardonnay, we are quite an active bunch alot of the time, quite different from the hoodies you see on the news and in the papers :)

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That is an offensive post. I'm from one of those poorer neighbourhoods, and, not all kids coming from these areas are like that. Infact, a lot of the people from the area I'm from are pretty well-behaved and are prepared to try and get an education. Sure there are a couple of "yobs", but nobody is scared of them and they certainly don't run the streets around here. None of them sit in at home either all the time drinking Chardonnay, we are quite an active bunch alot of the time, quite different from the hoodies you see on the news and in the papers :)

This is my first scolding, congratulations old chap! :(

It wasn't meant to be offensive, I'm sorry if you took it that way. Just a tongue in cheek way of stating that in the main, poor nutrition, violence and ignorance is mainly found in areas where education is less of a priority. The Chardonnay comment was about an English friend of mine who has shared her wine with her son since he was 15 now 18. He rarely went out spent a fortune on consumer electronics and is fat. Please don't tell me that underage drinking isn't a problem either.

Not being afraid of violent people, aka "yobs" seems to be a speculative undertaking, I strongly suggest you reconsider your position in that regard.

It's 5:30pm time for my Martini, Nachos, and the 99th repeat of Ramsey's Nightmares on BBC America. :yawn:

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What a load of claptrap is being trotted out here. You only have to look around you to see the unhealthy overweight state of a majority of kids today. If Oliver chooses to highlight what he considers to be one of the major reasons - parents neglecting their responsibity over their kids diet - then what the heck is the problem?

According to this article - LINK - roughly 25% of British kids (11-15yo) were obese two years ago. The article claims that about 15% were obese ten years ago.

Given that increase over a decade, and assuming that the trend continues, there's probably every reason to suggest that, maybe, nearly half the children born this year will be obese by the time they hit their teens.

There's plenty of directions to spread the blame in though. My local Morrisons, for example, plays its part. The fruit and veg there is always really expensive, and they never have any budget ranges (Smart Price, Value etc) that I've noticed. By contrast, they have literally dozens of BOGOF offers every week, placed prominently at the end of the aisles. Without fail, these are for fizzy drinks, crisps, doughnuts, biscuits etc.

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In all fairness to Morrisons, if the shoppers were fully aware of the risks of buying too much food and proceeding to stuff it down their throats, they wouldn't go for the BOGOF(F) pricing. :P

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According to this article - LINK - roughly 25% of British kids (11-15yo) were obese two years ago. The article claims that about 15% were obese ten years ago.

Given that increase over a decade, and assuming that the trend continues, there's probably every reason to suggest that, maybe, nearly half the children born this year will be obese by the time they hit their teens.

There's plenty of directions to spread the blame in though. My local Morrisons, for example, plays its part. The fruit and veg there is always really expensive, and they never have any budget ranges (Smart Price, Value etc) that I've noticed. By contrast, they have literally dozens of BOGOF offers every week, placed prominently at the end of the aisles. Without fail, these are for fizzy drinks, crisps, doughnuts, biscuits etc.

Tesco has Tesco Value fruit.

Not really that relevant but I bought some "Tesco Value Citrus" t'other day.

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According to this article - LINK - roughly 25% of British kids (11-15yo) were obese two years ago. The article claims that about 15% were obese ten years ago.

Given that increase over a decade, and assuming that the trend continues, there's probably every reason to suggest that, maybe, nearly half the children born this year will be obese by the time they hit their teens.

There's plenty of directions to spread the blame in though. My local Morrisons, for example, plays its part. The fruit and veg there is always really expensive, and they never have any budget ranges (Smart Price, Value etc) that I've noticed. By contrast, they have literally dozens of BOGOF offers every week, placed prominently at the end of the aisles. Without fail, these are for fizzy drinks, crisps, doughnuts, biscuits etc.

Very good research Nationwider. I wonder at what point someone becomes "overweight". The statistics you found would then becomes even more horrendous if these were added to the "obese".

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Very good research Nationwider. I wonder at what point someone becomes "overweight". The statistics you found would then becomes even more horrendous if these were added to the "obese".

Technically, obese are people whose BMI is >= 30 Kg / m2

overweight are those with BMIs betwen 25 and 30

BMI is calculated as follows:

weight in Kg / height in metres squared

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In all fairness to Morrisons, if the shoppers were fully aware of the risks of buying too much food and proceeding to stuff it down their throats, they wouldn't go for the BOGOF(F) pricing. :P

Maybe. You've hit upon another area of blame - poor education. Veg is still fairly cheap if you avoid the organic kumquats. The problem is that a lot of (younger) people don't have a clue what to do with a potato or a carrot. Also, the basic habit of eating prepared meals, in one sitting, around a kitchen table at night, is beginning to be eroded away.

Cheap food is still more likely to win hands down against healthy food, especially for those with less disposable income. There's loads of it, and you can shove it down their throats to shut the b*astards up while you get some peace in front of the telly, no hassles.

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Technically, obese are people whose BMI is >= 30 Kg / m2

overweight are those with BMIs betwen 25 and 30

BMI is calculated as follows:

weight in Kg / height in metres squared

i guess that makes lennox lewis and ricky 'the hitman' hatton morbidly obese :ph34r:

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i guess that makes lennox lewis and ricky 'the hitman' hatton morbidly obese :ph34r:

I am not sure.

What I can tell you is that I know two guys that are really normal (but do weight training) and, although they do not look overweight at all, they fall into the obese bracket according to the formula above.

This is one of the problems with BMI: it does not distinguish between lean mass and fat.

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Forget all that.

I used to weigh 11.5 stone. Now I weigh nearly 14.

Sod the kids eating Snickers for brekka. I need to get my own house (gut) in order.....I need a bike! And some motivation....and for the sandwich lady to go away.

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