filbertway Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 It's a myth. Manchester United are and Arsenal are the prime example of teams committed to attack. How many trophies line their cabinets. Okay we don't have their players but neither are we playing at their level. It really is the same at any level to be honest because the opposition also equates to that level. Near home the best example is our Academy. Beaglehole attacks from the off. There's no mystery. He pushes up high and close on the opposition, gives them no space and the team moves forward in numbers and with close support. You'd think they'd get caught on the break but it is hard for the opposition to set up attacks cos they simply have so little time to even turn let alone pick out distant runners. The result. In 13 games they've score 51 goals and the goals difference is a massive 32!. So they concede goals not much more regularly than the first team with seven/eight defenders. In the last 15 minutes against Derby I didn't feel we were especially more vulnerable than for the first 75/80 minutes when we barely mounted any sort of attack and when we conceded the goal.Kelly says it's all about what we do but I wish he'd put that into practice and focus on it. Being committed to attack doesn't mean having no defence when it's needed. Probably becuase derby were more committed to defending than attacking? I'm all for us playing attacking football, but we need a good team to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 You can say that Fryatt isn't pulling his weight, but nearly all the team aren't. The only players that are actually trying and deserve our fans, are stearman, kisnorbo, mccarthy and huuuuummmeeee. Well when i say deserve our fans i actually mean the fans that actually get behind the lads That could be where we are going wrong. Who might agree with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 If we played attacking for a full 90 minutes, i'm sure teams of preston's and derbys quality would rip us apart. It's ok attacking when the oposition has scored and are jsut sitting on the lead, but when they are actually trying to score i'm sure they would get 2 or 3 in the first half alone. Then in the second we might get a goal while they sit back for the half. Who said that? not me. I'm talking about attitude and approach of course teams don't literally attack non-stop for 90 minutes, but teams with the right attitude attack when they have the ball and have players on the pitch that can use it in an attacking fashion. We simple don't do that, even at home our priority and mentality is not to concede but we nearly always do. It's fundamental isn't it when your in the oppo's half with the ball they ain't going to score. Of course there's always the risk that someone could break clear and score, but if you've got all your own players playing deep and in a defensive style, under the cosh like we play then you're eventually going to concede, and we do, time after time after time. We then change our approach start attacking putting on the right sort of players and actually looking like a half decent team that could have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 It's a myth. Manchester United are and Arsenal are the prime example of teams committed to attack. How many trophies line their cabinets. Okay we don't have their players but neither are we playing at their level. It really is the same at any level to be honest because the opposition also equates to that level. Near home the best example is our Academy. Beaglehole attacks from the off. There's no mystery. He pushes up high and close on the opposition, gives them no space and the team moves forward in numbers and with close support. You'd think they'd get caught on the break but it is hard for the opposition to set up attacks cos they simply have so little time to even turn let alone pick out distant runners. The result. In 13 games they've score 51 goals and the goals difference is a massive 32!. So they concede goals not much more regularly than the first team with seven/eight defenders. In the last 15 minutes against Derby I didn't feel we were especially more vulnerable than for the first 75/80 minutes when we barely mounted any sort of attack and when we conceded the goal. Kelly says it's all about what we do but I wish he'd put that into practice and focus on it. Being committed to attack doesn't mean having no defence when it's needed. Why don't you use Fulham and West Ham as examples of attacking teams lining their cabinet with trophies? Any half-wit can use Arsenal and Manchester United. And I'm sure there are sides well below the Academy in their league that attack as well. At the end of the day, Filbert is right. This squad is not capable of passing wind.....let alone the ball!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Why don't you use Fulham and West Ham as examples of attacking teams lining their cabinet with trophies? Any half-wit can use Arsenal and Manchester United. And I'm sure there are sides well below the Academy in their league that attack as well. At the end of the day, Filbert is right. This squad is not capable of passing wind.....let alone the ball!!! I've not seen another Academy League side with anything like our commitment to attack and I've watched about threequarters of them. As for the first team, the squad needs improving but is not nearly as incapable as they're being made to look or as you make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Look through my posts if you have time. There is critisism there every week... S'right. Yesterday alone, I counted twenty seven criticisms of Barton Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 I've heard Matty Fryatt has been at the Nathan Blakes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 S'right. Yesterday alone, I counted twenty seven criticisms of Barton Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 26 November 2006 Author Share Posted 26 November 2006 I've heard Matty Fryatt has been at the Nathan Blakes.... I hope they were Crunchy Nut. I've got this Cockney rhyming slang down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Stack dead actors, stacked to the rafters, line up all the bastards, All I want is the truth. Is what the Fezz is trying to say, in his own muddled fashion. G'lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 I hope they were Crunchy Nut. I've got this Cockney rhyming slang down. I'm not sure I have, are you both saying that Matty Fryatt has caught a ride on the big red bus but left his bicycle in Newport Pagnell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Y'know this (secret) inner circle thing? We REALLY need to work on our communication coding because I just don't get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 I think we need secret emergency double secret top secret meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Actually, DB, bit embarrassing this... very awkward but erm... you haven't paid your membership fees. I'm going to require £6 and a couple of bad puns from you by the time the day is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Actually, DB, bit embarrassing this... very awkward but erm... you haven't paid your membership fees. I'm going to require £6 and a couple of bad puns from you by the time the day is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 Member # 11 Thankyou. Here's your membership card, club tie, guide to secret knock and handshake, x-ray specs, list of bad apples and make your own crystal radio set. Enjoy. Member # 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesledgehammer86 Posted 26 November 2006 Share Posted 26 November 2006 yes, fryatt looks like a bit overweight, thats the reason why he cant score. Cant wait till the rest of levein's rejects can go including rob kelly - Mandaric should install Alan Curbishley as Manager - CURBS FOR MANAGER!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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