davieG Posted 14 March 2007 Share Posted 14 March 2007 Disagree, it's a booking for a high foot IMO. He'd already won the ball. With respect to the rest of his body his foot isn't that high, certainly no higher than many headed jumps. I still maintain it was an unfortuntely timed clash of bodies - an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 14 March 2007 Share Posted 14 March 2007 With respect to the rest of his body his foot isn't that high, certainly no higher than many headed jumps. I still maintain it was an unfortuntely timed clash of bodies - an accident. Doesn't really matter where the rest of your body is if you knock someone out with your knee though does it? It may have been an accident but it was still dangerous (I think it's possible for both to be true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 14 March 2007 Share Posted 14 March 2007 Doesn't really matter where the rest of your body is if you knock someone out with your knee though does it? It may have been an accident but it was still dangerous (I think it's possible for both to be true). We'll have to disagree then because I think it does matter, his knee was not in an unnatural position with respect to his body, In fact one might ask why JJ is so low if he's going for the ball he could be deemed to be obstructing Hendo. Anyway as you agree with the ref and he was nearer the incident I'll bow out gracefully and accept that to err on the side of safety is probably the correct if somewhat harsh approach, it's the way football and society in general is headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 14 March 2007 Share Posted 14 March 2007 Bloody hell what a leap. He'd have got a yellow medal at the Olympics but all he got from the ref was a yellow card. Hard to see that he had any choice really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Fan Posted 14 March 2007 Share Posted 14 March 2007 That ref was a right tosser. He's the same ref we had for the Stoke game at home, he was diabolical then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomer Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 I thought it was just like Shearers on Lennon only Hendo got his studs stuck in his back rather than the turf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_jme Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 To be honest I haven't seen the incident on replay, can only vaguely remember it from the night and have seen the Superman leap Hendo did, but from what I can make out, Henderson hasn't meant to clatter the man, his eyes were firmly fixed on the ball. It's unfortunate JJ got hurt and I for one hope he's OK, but I think the decision to book Hendo was wrong and that if he is going to be penalised for something he is well within his rights to do (go up and try to win the ball - not win the ball and intend to take the man out at the same time) then football is headed towards becoming a non-contact game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 To be honest I haven't seen the incident on replay, can only vaguely remember it from the night and have seen the Superman leap Hendo did, but from what I can make out, Henderson hasn't meant to clatter the man, his eyes were firmly fixed on the ball. It's unfortunate JJ got hurt and I for one hope he's OK, but I think the decision to book Hendo was wrong and that if he is going to be penalised for something he is well within his rights to do (go up and try to win the ball - not win the ball and intend to take the man out at the same time) then football is headed towards becoming a non-contact game. I presume he was booked for reckless or dangerous play. There is no question of him meaning to hurt anyone but what he did clearly did cause a nasty injury and from the pictures on here that is not surprising. With the directives given to referees nowadays - for better or worse - the referee had no option at all. Henderson was reckless and his action dangerous as the consequences clearly show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 I clapped him. It was obvious he was seriously injured. Hendo flattened him, but it was never a foul, just an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 Watch it on macfox's site - here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potter3 Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 I clapped him. It was obvious he was seriously injured. Hendo flattened him, but it was never a foul, just an accident. I can't remeber what I did when he went off, I definately didn't clap or boo thought. Why on the highlight do they obsure the ful speed colision <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 I presume he was booked for reckless or dangerous play. There is no question of him meaning to hurt anyone but what he did clearly did cause a nasty injury and from the pictures on here that is not surprising. With the directives given to referees nowadays - for better or worse - the referee had no option at all. Henderson was reckless and his action dangerous as the consequences clearly show. that's bollocks, if the ref was following directives he'd of blown straight away, i have no problem with him stopping play as the lad was out cold, how ever it wasn't until the physios had been on for a minuet he decided to book Hendo, basically because he out jumped someone who is about a foot smaller than him anyway. stop play yes, but it should of been a drop ball where they just give it us back as we had possession, it wasn't a foul other wise if someone gets hit in the he by a shot and gets KO'd that'll have to start being given as a foul, the ref was just a total tosser who is out of his depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potter3 Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 The ref should never have blown when he should, were were attacking and had a good chance of scoring, but he brought play back and booked Hendo. It wasn't as if they were going to get an advantage so why wait? He should have waited for the attack to break down or the ball to go out of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 The ref should never have blown when he should, were were attacking and had a good chance of scoring, but he brought play back and booked Hendo. It wasn't as if they were going to get an advantage so why wait? He should have waited for the attack to break down or the ball to go out of play. I don't dispute that at all. But there wasn't a referee in the land who would have adjudged it anything but a foul and in today's climate almost all would have booked him too when they realise the outcome. If people get booked for leaving a leg out or catching someone slightly from behind I am sure Henderson will have had no chance with that challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potter3 Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 Yeah why didn't blow for the foul straight away though, we were 3 on 3 or something lie that, approaching their penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 Just seen the replay. It confirms what we all thought at the time - that Henderson played the ball first, and his momentum carried him into Johnson. Johnson's injury was unfortunate, but hey, he's a mercenary working on loan for Ken Bates and the poison dwarf. He should think of it as karma at work. Meanwhile, the referee should admit his mistake and rescind Hendo's booking. And maybe he should spend some time relearning his Laws! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 Just seen the replay. It confirms what we all thought at the time - that Henderson played the ball first, and his momentum carried him into Johnson. Johnson's injury was unfortunate, but hey, he's a mercenary working on loan for Ken Bates and the poison dwarf. He should think of it as karma at work. Meanwhile, the referee should admit his mistake and rescind Hendo's booking. And maybe he should spend some time relearning his Laws! That will make no difference to the referee booking Henderson for dangerous play. If someone won the ball and in his follow through clattered someone and broke their leg that would be considered dangerous play. This was no different. Neither the referee nor anyone else is suggesting it was deliberate otherwise it would have been a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 March 2007 Share Posted 15 March 2007 Just seen the replay. It confirms what we all thought at the time - that Henderson played the ball first, and his momentum carried him into Johnson. Johnson's injury was unfortunate, but hey, he's a mercenary working on loan for Ken Bates and the poison dwarf. He should think of it as karma at work. Meanwhile, the referee should admit his mistake and rescind Hendo's booking. And maybe he should spend some time relearning his Laws! Yellow cards can't be rescinded. EDIT: except in the case of a mistaken identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 16 March 2007 Share Posted 16 March 2007 That will make no difference to the referee booking Henderson for dangerous play. If someone won the ball and in his follow through clattered someone and broke their leg that would be considered dangerous play. This was no different. Neither the referee nor anyone else is suggesting it was deliberate otherwise it would have been a red card. So if a keeper punches a ball and catches an opponent in the face afterwards, would that be a penalty? I'd guess 95%+ of players (and refs) would say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRobboFOX Posted 16 March 2007 Author Share Posted 16 March 2007 Yellow cards can't be rescinded. EDIT: except in the case of a mistaken identity. I think the ref thought Hendo was in fact Eric Bana.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 16 March 2007 Share Posted 16 March 2007 So if a keeper punches a ball and catches an opponent in the face afterwards, would that be a penalty? I'd guess 95%+ of players (and refs) would say no. Depends entirely on how the referee viewed it - the same as with Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggler Posted 16 March 2007 Share Posted 16 March 2007 If Henderson had done the same thing in the penalty box (hopefully catching/punching the ball not heading it!) would/should the ref have given a pen? No? Then it's not a foul then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 16 March 2007 Share Posted 16 March 2007 I think the ref thought Hendo was in fact Eric Bana.... If your doing a Hendo look alike there is only one man my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRobboFOX Posted 16 March 2007 Author Share Posted 16 March 2007 If your doing a Hendo look alike there is only one man my friend. Very very good shout.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 16 March 2007 Share Posted 16 March 2007 Admittedly it was dangerous play but the referee wouldn't have given it if it was in the Penalty Area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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