ALLEN SACKED - CONFIRMED

[Gené and Tonic]

Well good on him

[Chimp]

You are a vvanker who clearly hasn't seen the team play this year, so just fvck off

So, tell us what was so exceptional about the 4 matches to date that has made you believe things have inproved so significantly over last season, or the season before that?

I don't see it. I don't see it at all. I look at some mediocre results and performances, even the Watford match, and am bewildered why some were/are labelling MA as our saviour.

[Brainy]

I don't see it. I don't see it at all. I look at some mediocre results and performances, even the Watford match, and am bewildered why some are labelling MA as our saviour.

It's because he is funny in his interviews.

Well, thats what some would tell you

[RedOnRed]

It's because he is funny in his interviews.

Well, thats what some would tell you

It seems Allen's PR excercises and eccentricities compensate for a lot. Personally i'd rather have a football manager more like the Rt Honourable John Major if he's more inclined to get the results, rather then some Benny Hill type of character that thinks he's the biggest thing in the club and is tactically inept.

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You are a vvanker who clearly hasn't seen the team play this year, so just fvck off

Sorry bedfordfox, Please, don’t throw your dummy out the pram. I did not mean to upset you, but you are obviously very young and immature, so I am not going to retaliate and have a dig back at you because it could be construed as bullying.

But, you are wrong on two accounts. One that I do not go down city and two that they have played well, ok we have seen one decent bit of football, but that isn’t going to keep us in the fizzy let alone get us promoted and with all the other gossip that we are hearing about MA, his managerial skills are limited in many ways and I cant see why he lasted as long as he did.

From you attitude, I have to assume you go down city for every match but I am perturbed by the fact that you cant tell the difference between good and crap football, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are not old enough to have seen good football at city. Or am I being to generous with my assumptions, maybe you are old enough to have seen it, maybe you just do not have the mental capacity to comprehend the difference, either way it does not matter to me. And it certainly wont matter to you.

But what does matter to me is what I have seen happen at city over the last six years, and when you have watched city for as long as I have, you will appreciate what good football is.

On second thoughts, I doubt you will ever appreciate what good football is, so please pick up your dummy, shove it in your great gob and shut the fcuk up.

[Thracian]

So, tell us what was so exceptional about the 4 matches to date that has made you believe things have inproved so significantly over last season, or the season before that?

I don't see it. I don't see it at all. I look at some mediocre results and performances, even the Watford match, and am bewildered why some were/are labelling MA as our saviour.

Saviour be damned. This is a bloke who simply wasn't given a fair chance because of a fit of pique.

Dress it up how you like but ask yourself this... If it was you, would you think four games was a reasonable test of your abilities bearing in mind the owner had signed you on the basis of bringing a three-year-plan to fruition?.

Personality clash? There was nothing secret about MA's style. People have to cope with folk they don't get on with every day of their working lives. Does MM think he's exempt cos he's rich?. You win people's friendship and admiration. You don't buy it.

And one thing's for sure. The way MM gets through managers, the way he shits on folk when he's decided they are useless (apart from financially, which, to him is the great conscience easer) there's no-one in his right mind would join MM's army for friendship or comeraderie.

Truth is Allen wouldn't doff his cap and I admire that cos with some folk you can buy their expertise but not their soul and what they stand for.

Allen was appointed as to manage Leicester City. He should have been allowed to get on with doing just that. And if he didn't want apparently unfit former stars then MM had a simple obligation.

Back the bloke until his methods had proved not to work. MM wasn't big enough to do that. He couldn't stand an employee being strong enough to do his job without fear or favour.

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I think this issue is causing to many people are expressing their own personal anger caused by their own life experiances.

[Foxhateram]

Radiculous 4 games and managers are already being sacked! we have played better football within the last 4 games then we have for over 2 years MA was a good manager i think would have done well with us, i cannot beleive this has happened after such a gr8 game on saturday, MM should have atleast lined someone else up before telling MA to go. This is a childish and pathetic fall out and im dissapointed with MM's decision, i just hope for his sake he brings in someone who gets us promoted this year otherwise hes going to be slaughtered by the leicester faithful.

[Lillehamring]

ha, ironically, The Apprentice (USA) has just started, feels kinda close to home....

[RedOnRed]

Saviour be damned. This is a bloke who simply wasn't given a fair chance because of a fit of pique.

Dress it up how you like but ask yourself this... If it was you, would you think four games was a reasonable test of your abilities bearing in mind the owner had signed you on the basis of bringing a three-year-plan to fruition?.

The decision to sack him clearly had nothing to do with football on the pitch - so being given a fair chance is immaterial.

By all accounts Allen was a complete ogre behind the scenes at the Dons and presumably he would have carried that behavioral baggage with him.

On the face of it, his position had become untenable for what he got up to behind the scenes. No doubt things will all be revealed in some biography further down the line, which will be found gathering dust in Poundstretcher shortly after its release.

[dandannieldanok]

The decision to sack him clearly had nothing to do with football on the pitch - so being given a fair chance is immaterial.

By all accounts Allen was a complete ogre behind the scenes at the Dons and presumably he would have carried that behavioral baggage with him.

On the face of it, his position had become untenable for what he got up to behind the scenes. No doubt things will all be revealed in some biography further down the line, which will be found gathering dust in Poundstretcher shortly after its release.

I agree, it was clear the bloke simply caused too much disruption and if the rumours are to be believed it wasn't just Mandaric that eventually grew to dislike him as a manager.

[RedOnRed]

Allen's clearly very egotistical. The first thing he does when he joins a club is make it clear to the players and fans that he's the biggest and most important individual and personality at the club and wo betide you if you cross swords and disturb his Martin Allen show. I'm sure if he was a president his image would be on every street corner like Saddam Hussein's was.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Mandaric is chomping at the bit and would love to divulge to the fans exactly why he had to fork out his own money to sack him so early on. Few things can be more painful then having to pay someone to go that you detest.

[biggs]

Allen's clearly very egotistical. The first thing he does when he joins a club is make it clear to the players and fans that he's the biggest and most important individual and personality at the club and wo betide you if you cross swords and disturb his Martin Allen show. I'm sure if he was a president his image would be on every street corner like Saddam Hussein's was.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Mandaric is chomping at the bit and would love to divulge to the fans exactly why he had to fork out his own money to sack him so early on. Few things can be more painful then having to pay someone to go that you detest.

Agreed.

The best manager - sad if that can be said after only 4 games. What kind of spell does this man have over some of you?

[Flynny]

I don't give a sh*t about who he pissed off at the club. The players didn't seem to be against him, and the fans were firmly behind him. I don't give a flying **** about the other people around the stadium he might have pissed off. As for Milan, his feelings SHOULDN'T matter. Shame.

[Batfink77]

MM has made another media comment tonight to justify his decision (so unlike him to get his mug on the box, guess he's managing to shrug that shy and retiring side of his )

He has compared the footy season to that of climbing a mountain, where, apparently, some climbers may not make it to the summit - or some such equal bo??ocks! OK its the kind of poetic cr&p youd expect cantona to come out with to explain why he decided to scissor kick a guy for giving him the bird but I think there may be some substance behind his apparent madness. MM might look like a spitting image puppet and go through managers quicker than Derby can be statistically relegated from the premier league but he must have some nounce about him. You dont get to be in his position by simply winging it.

I was never exactly taken by MA so not that gutted to see him go. Yes 4 games isnt enough time to give anyone, so I'm going to assume there is more to it rather than jump down the throat of a rich guy whose decided to give Leicester a whole wad of his well earnt cash.

My concern is the public image and consequently who will want to come into this media circus. I'm behind MM (for now) but I hope he gets in someone decent and not a 'yes man' weasel like roeder. I also hope fox fans everywhere dont p*ss off MM by thinking they know better. Lets all stick to our fantasy football and let the guy whose brave enough to put his millions behind Leicester also be brave enough to make some tough decisions. If the lotto quadruple rollover came my way I'm not sure I'd have the guts to invest in LCFC - my hat goes off to him.....

[Thracian]

MM has made another media comment tonight to justify his decision (so unlike him to get his mug on the box, guess he's managing to shrug that shy and retiring side of his )

He has compared the footy season to that of climbing a mountain, where, apparently, some climbers may not make it to the summit - or some such equal bo??ocks! OK its the kind of poetic cr&p youd expect cantona to come out with to explain why he decided to scissor kick a guy for giving him the bird but I think there may be some substance behind his apparent madness. MM might look like a spitting image puppet and go through managers quicker than Derby can be statistically relegated from the premier league but he must have some nounce about him. You dont get to be in his position by simply winging it.

I was never exactly taken by MA so not that gutted to see him go. Yes 4 games isnt enough time to give anyone, so I'm going to assume there is more to it rather than jump down the throat of a rich guy whose decided to give Leicester a whole wad of his well earnt cash.

My concern is the public image and consequently who will want to come into this media circus. I'm behind MM (for now) but I hope he gets in someone decent and not a 'yes man' weasel like roeder. I also hope fox fans everywhere dont p*ss off MM by thinking they know better. Lets all stick to our fantasy football and let the guy whose brave enough to put his millions behind Leicester also be brave enough to make some tough decisions. If the lotto quadruple rollover came my way I'm not sure I'd have the guts to invest in LCFC - my hat goes off to him.....

Yes, wouldn't you just love going mountaineering with MM as leader.

Can you just imagine having him holding your lifeline if he didn't like you or if you'd suggested taking a different route.

[Geo V]

I don't give a sh*t about who he pissed off at the club. The players didn't seem to be against him, and the fans were firmly behind him. I don't give a flying **** about the other people around the stadium he might have pissed off. As for Milan, his feelings SHOULDN'T matter. Shame.

Thats how I look at things too. Of course there are some things that we aren't aware of that may have upset MM but as long as people were working hard and the players were both fit and determined to achieve success, the rest doesn't bother me.

Anyway, we have to move on now and despite this shock of a week, it probably can only get better (if I wake up to hear that Kisnorbo has been sold for £1m to Brum then I may do something I may regret )

[wykin]

Come on Leic Fans Lets get behind the club and Millan please- do you wanna lose Millan?

This man is the greatest thing that ever happened here - lets not judge him too early like some did with Martin Oneill

MILLAN ONLY WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR LEIC

We don't know everything that goes off

If anyone is thinking of going to Plymouth and singing anti Millan songs - Think hard b4 you do - remember those twats who sang fook off Martin Oneil v Sheff U

- he never let us forget that did he?

[wykin]

I am absolutely shocked... he is the most successful manager we've had for some time and he's sacked without even getting a chance to prove himself... must be something more there...

All the best with the future Martin Allen, we have loved every minute you have been in the club and I am sure you will do well wherever you go in the future...

To Milan: You better have a darn good replacement on board as if you don't and the season goes the south, I can assure you there will be howling from the rooftops from the foxes...

I am shocked... totally shocked... oh well, not much we can do though but move on.

most successful manager for some time!!

How do you work that one out??

To Milan: You better have a darn good replacement on board as if you don't and the season goes the south, I can assure you there will be howling from the rooftops from the foxes...

Ok why don't you put in your millions then?

Calm down everyone Milan is what's good for Leic - please believe in someone that wants to spend millions on us

[Trav Le Bleu]

I don't give a sh*t about who he pissed off at the club. The players didn't seem to be against him, and the fans were firmly behind him. I don't give a flying **** about the other people around the stadium he might have pissed off. As for Milan, his feelings SHOULDN'T matter. Shame.

Exactly!

And just to throw coals on the fire... has anyone else heard the rumours that Mandaric wanted the players to go OUT for the 2nd half at Forest against Allen's wishes and that that was the straw that broke the camal's back?

Just idle gossip or partial truth?

[Hullfox]

Saviour be damned. This is a bloke who simply wasn't given a fair chance because of a fit of pique.

Dress it up how you like but ask yourself this... If it was you, would you think four games was a reasonable test of your abilities bearing in mind the owner had signed you on the basis of bringing a three-year-plan to fruition?.

Personality clash? There was nothing secret about MA's style. People have to cope with folk they don't get on with every day of their working lives. Does MM think he's exempt cos he's rich?. You win people's friendship and admiration. You don't buy it.

And one thing's for sure. The way MM gets through managers, the way he shits on folk when he's decided they are useless (apart from financially, which, to him is the great conscience easer) there's no-one in his right mind would join MM's army for friendship or comeraderie.

Truth is Allen wouldn't doff his cap and I admire that cos with some folk you can buy their expertise but not their soul and what they stand for.

Allen was appointed as to manage Leicester City. He should have been allowed to get on with doing just that. And if he didn't want apparently unfit former stars then MM had a simple obligation.

Back the bloke until his methods had proved not to work. MM wasn't big enough to do that. He couldn't stand an employee being strong enough to do his job without fear or favour.

That would all seem reasonable had you not called for Worthington's head after one game. (which you didn't see)

Where was his chance to do the job he was taken on for?

[Mark]

This bloke, Andy his name is, was out with his mate(who works for FoxFM radio, the hospital one) and they went to Fat Cats-as we all know it's one of the hangouts for the players.

In there they found, Kisnorbo, Henderson, Doyle, Whitbread and Mr.Allen himself.

Well after having a couple of drinks Andy's mate decided he'd go and ask MA what went off, Andy went with him, being a Leicester fan obviously he'd want to know!

So his mate asked him straight out......Allen said that he couldn't even pick the team without MM interfering, that MM was constantly telling him who should play, that he had been asking for several weeks for a left-sided player, because he could see we were playing too narrow, yet whenever he went to MM about it, MM was only interested in bringing another striker in. That he wouldn't let him go after the players he really wanted, and he brought players in who he could tell straight away WOULDN'T be good enough, but MM wouldn't listen.

He was asked how many of the new signings were HIS decisions...........he said FOUR.....

He was asked about Neilsen and he just shook his head and said, DON'T ask....then he said how we had SIX goalies on our books which in his view was ridiculous.

He said he knew what was coming because he stood his ground over the JFH fiasco.....

He also said(and this will annoy some fans) that the League Cup didn't matter as much to him because the League was the most important thing, even though it was a local derby and he knew what it meant to the fans. MM was of the same view on this so it didn't bother him that he changed the team around for it, the reason he did that was because he wanted those players on the fringes to believe they were a part of the team, because the team spirit was first class and he had got the players starting to believe in themselves.

He said IF we won on satdee at Plymouth we could go 6th, and he firmly believed he had the players to get us to the play-offs. He wasn't expecting automatic promotion because of how many more experienced sides there are but he honestly thought he could do what was needed to get us there or there abouts.

Then Andy's mate asked him about Clarke, Andy said Allen actually looked like he was going to start crying again when he started to talk about him. Clarke didn't have two heart attacks, he had four, and then he said he didn't care if he got the sack, but for MM to sack Doyle, who got Clarke's heart going again all four times before the paramedics got there he was fuming over. After what he did that night he deserved better treatment.

He said that the atmosphere at the ground was nasty and you could feel how everything was controlled, which is why he tried to make the training ground a squad only place. He said he loved it here, he loved working with the players and he loved talking to the fans. And that he's sad he never had the chance to prove he could do the job well.

Andy said Kisnorbo and Henderson didn't say anything whilst Allen was talking, but they were watching and listening to all of it. After that they just spoke a bit about the future, wishing him good luck etc then bought him and the others a drink and left them to it.

[Geo V]

Interesting reading. It could easily be more gossip but the theme of MM interfering is a reoccurring one and he needs to butt out of decisions that effect the players and the manager because he isnt and never will be a successful manager himself. Stick to what you do best Milan!!

[Anish]

Very interesting post by Mark. It sounds a lot closer to the truth than the crap that Mandaric has spouted. Since when have meddling chairmen ever presided over successful teams? The moment that he started interfering with Harry Redknapp's job it all fell apart until Redknapp came back in. Doesn't Mandaric learn?

[C-man]

Just a thought, but maybe Allen was too hard to work with. Don McKay and the others that left after about a week at the club possibly left because they didn't like the way MA worked. Only a possibility but there was hardly a concrete reason for their departures.

At first I thought, I don't care how hard he was to work with, he would have got us promoted, but now I'm not so sure - I think you need everyone at the club onside to be successful.