SOCCERROO FOX Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Are you on the Victory forum dude? No, why?
boneman Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Milan... “I was very disappointed to hear that coming from those among our supporters, who are clearly not supporters at all, at least not by what it said the last time I looked in the dictionary." Oxford Australian Dictionary definition: Support, supporter, supportive... "Keep a person or thing from falling or sinking, give strength, help, or encouragement to someone, provide with the necessities of life, help to confirm a statement." Well "strength, help or encouragement" to Meg's..."confirm a statement" maybe the feelings being voiced for the departure of Allen. Maybe time to get on with life and except the impossible (Allen returning)...will they be chanting in the play offs?
Ajax Treesdown Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Yep. It is quite amusing really. But on a day when he has made the club lok good in the media with the great goal giveaway why not just shut up. Muppet. Do you support City?? You just sound like a random person who doesn't know a great deal about Football and Business.
Hullfox Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 I feel sorry for Gary Megson, all he has done is applied for a position and got it. The people who chanted "One Martin Allen" (and i think there were quite a few or else it wouldn't have been heard from Milan's seat) were hopefully doing it as a one off gesture. A lot of people liked MA and we were playing terribly at the time. It was a frustration thing more than a desire to bring back the previous manager. However, is it any less undermining for Megson to hear that song rather than the "Gerry Taggart's Blue and White Army" refrain? Surely that's as much of an expression of dislike for the manager. Maybe, maybe not.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 I feel sorry for Gary Megson, all he has done is applied for a position and got it.The people who chanted "One Martin Allen" (and i think there were quite a few or else it wouldn't have been heard from Milan's seat) were hopefully doing it as a one off gesture. A lot of people liked MA and we were playing terribly at the time. It was a frustration thing more than a desire to bring back the previous manager. However, is it any less undermining for Megson to hear that song rather than the "Gerry Taggart's Blue and White Army" refrain? Surely that's as much of an expression of dislike for the manager. Maybe, maybe not. I agree. Megson is going to have to really go some to win over the vast majority of our fanbase, especially with a so-called "Leicester City legend" treading on his toes. I don't agree with this hero-worship of Taggart anyway. He was a good player for us but we've had plenty of good players over the years. His presence threatens the manager's position until it's clear whether Megson will be accepted or not.
Raj Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 It will be a matter of time before they fall out. No manager will want to be undermined by his number 2 Not saying GT would,but it cant be good for a relationship if the fans are singing the number 2's name and not the managers. Imagine Man U fans singing about Carlos Queiroz and not Fergie???
Dr The Singh Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 It will be a matter of time before they fall out.No manager will want to be undermined by his number 2 Not saying GT would,but it cant be good for a relationship if the fans are singing the number 2's name and not the managers. Imagine Man U fans singing about Carlos Queiroz and not Fergie??? I dunno, Gerry is a icon at city, and that's one of the reasons he was hired. Megson has been out of work for a very long time and will not want to waste this opportunity by making himself more unpopular etc. Megson calls the shots, so as time goes on and if Megson is successful, the fans will start chanting his name also, and if things go sour, they won't even chant about tags!!
PAULCFC Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 I was as dissapointed as any one at the premature depature of MA,and can't stand Megson,But i'll allways support lcfc(it's where i was born and haven't moved away from for 39 years!)p.s The chairmans begining to sound like a bit of a dictator too........Bring back Shipman!
Kilworthfox Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 I agree. Megson is going to have to really go some to win over the vast majority of our fanbase, especially with a so-called "Leicester City legend" treading on his toes.I don't agree with this hero-worship of Taggart anyway. He was a good player for us but we've had plenty of good players over the years. His presence threatens the manager's position until it's clear whether Megson will be accepted or not. Gerry! Gerry! Gerry! Gerry! Gerry!
Jon the Hat Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Do you support City??You just sound like a random person who doesn't know a great deal about Football and Business. And you base that on what? My opnion that Milan has ranted at the fans when he would have done well to keep his thoughts to himself?
The Don Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 tbh , its all freedom of speech. The fans can say what they like, milan can berate them if he wishes, and we ca have a go at him having a go. Everyones a winner
Geo V Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 And you base that on what? My opnion that Milan has ranted at the fans when he would have done well to keep his thoughts to himself? Why should he? At the end of the day he is not a Leicester man but someone who is hoping to grow into being a Leicester fan just like he did at Pompey before going there. Ultimately its all about his pocket but for us, he is here for the right reasons which is making this club better than it is or was and if he achieves that we will all be happy. Actually talking of "happiness" as a Leicester fan, I doubt there are more than about 50 numptys about who would have proffered to be were we were this time six months ago. I say 50 when it should be zero to allow for the clowns.
eaststandtom Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 what does it matter if he is a leicester man anyway local ownership got city nowhere in 122 and a half years!!
Geo V Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 what does it matter if he is a leicester man anywaylocal ownership got city nowhere in 122 and a half years!! Im trying to think of "owner/fans" of clubs in the Premiership. There aren't that many are there? Maybe Al Fayed at Fulham who has been in the area for a while, Gibson at Boro and who owns Newcastle these days?! Ive lost track. All these Americans aren't proper fans but in Milans favour he is always talking the club up, the fans and actively trying to make things happen for the club.
lcfc_jme Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Some bloke went absolutely mental to my left when that song got going. Plenty of expletives used, I honestly thought the man was going to burst a blood vessel. The idiots must have got bored of it pretty quickly because it didn't last long and was replaced by a different song. T'was well said by Milan, but he's going to have to appreciate the fact that we have a lot of idiots in our fanbase. They will turn up and be idiots week in, week out; if ever we're losing or drawing games, the Martin Allen support and Megson out songs will start. If we're winning, they'll be the first to sing the praises of Milan and the manager. Mainly because football fans are fickle as fook. Especially the idiots.
Kilworthfox Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Some bloke went absolutely mental to my left when that song got going. Plenty of expletives used, I honestly thought the man was going to burst a blood vessel. The idiots must have got bored of it pretty quickly because it didn't last long and was replaced by a different song.T'was well said by Milan, but he's going to have to appreciate the fact that we have a lot of idiots in our fanbase. They will turn up and be idiots week in, week out; if ever we're losing or drawing games, the Martin Allen support and Megson out songs will start. If we're winning, they'll be the first to sing the praises of Milan and the manager. Mainly because football fans are fickle as fook. Especially the idiots like me.
Hullfox Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Why should he? At the end of the day he is not a Leicester man but someone who is hoping to grow into being a Leicester fan just like he did at Pompey before going there. Ultimately its all about his pocket but for us, he is here for the right reasons which is making this club better than it is or was and if he achieves that we will all be happy. Actually talking of "happiness" as a Leicester fan, I doubt there are more than about 50 numptys about who would have proffered to be were we were this time six months ago. I say 50 when it should be zero to allow for the clowns. To me that looks like a few opinions rather than substantiated fact. Opinions which you are entitled to of course but it would appear that JTH isn't allowed his?
Bellend Sebastian Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 T'was well said by Milan, but he's going to have to appreciate the fact that we have a lot of idiots in our fanbase Well it is a football club. I imagine he got used to candidates for the 'enhanced thinking skills' course at Pompey. Information vacuum + a few cretins + paranoia + herd mentality = there's only one Martin Allen
Geo V Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 To me that looks like a few opinions rather than substantiated fact.Opinions which you are entitled to of course but it would appear that JTB isn't allowed his? People can voice their opinions but its all about when and where. If someone wants to email MM or the club, voice concerns on here then that wont have any detrimental effect on our team and results. Singing for MA at the stadium, booing your own players and stuff like that can actually end up hurting the club IMO and we should cut stuff like that out.
blueoveru Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 All fans have players they like/love and all have varying views over my long period off support I've heard people shouting abuse at GIBSON/STRINGDFELLOW the DOOG, berated GILLIES, O'NEILL even BLOOMFIELD when we were playing superb stuff, but you'll never satisfy a lot of fans. M Allen may well be revered by some because of his approach to our fans ....his daily messages.... his down to earth manner to which most fans have never ever seen before,plus the way he was relieved of his duties at the club. But M.M's the owner trying to do something to make us a success and he will not always get it right and he will not endear himself to the faithful with comments like that in the Mercury, but these little hitches will pass into history if he lets them.
Ultra Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 All these Americans aren't proper fans Some, like the Glazers, are clearly only in the game for the money, but others seem genuinely committed to their clubs, like the owners at Liverpool and Villa. As Mandaric himself has an American passport, perhaps we'd better not question commitment of these others too much.. but in Milan's favour he is always talking the club up, the fans and actively trying to make things happen for the club. Sorry, but would this be the same "Milan" who last season led us to one of the worst finishes in our entire history? The same person who's sacked three managers in six months, thus scaring off most if not all would-be applicants in possession of any integrity or quality? Or the same person who constantly undermines his staff by his incessant mouthing to the media at every opportunity? It doesn't look to me like he's talking up the club at all. To him it's just a means of feeding an increasingly insatiable ego. Some of the fans at Forest were indeed idiots. But no more so than those who seem prepared to accept EVERY pronouncement Mandaric makes.
Ultra Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Well it is a football club. I imagine he got used to candidates for the 'enhanced thinking skills' course at Pompey.Information vacuum + a few cretins + paranoia + herd mentality = there's only one Martin Allen Or indeed any of the pro-Mandaric chants that were heard last season, prior to the takeover. The people who made those didn't give a monkey's about the effect on the team and the then manager.
Geo V Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 Some, like the Glazers, are clearly only in the game for the money, but others seem genuinely committed to their clubs, like the owners at Liverpool and Villa.As Mandaric himself has an American passport, perhaps we'd better not question commitment of these others too much.. Sorry, but would this be the same "Milan" who last season led us to one of the worst finishes in our entire history? The same person who's sacked three managers in six months, thus scaring off most if not all would-be applicants in possession of any integrity or quality? Or the same person who constantly undermines his staff by his incessant mouthing to the media at every opportunity? It doesn't look to me like he's talking up the club at all. To him it's just a means of feeding an increasingly insatiable ego. Some of the fans at Forest were indeed idiots. But no more so than those who seem prepared to accept EVERY pronouncement Mandaric makes. Dont be daft, they are all here for money and profit.
Thracian Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 I felt quite embarrassed when the chants began, he's not coming back, he was sunday league, the players didn't back him 100% IMO and i think it's sad people fell in love with him after four games.Well said Milan. Players rarely, if ever, back a manager, especially those in a big squad who find their names missing from the squad lists when they think they ought to be playing. But, in my view, it is reasonable to expect a chairman to back his manager, eccentricities or not, especially when he's at the start of a contract, has just beaten the League leaders and has helped lift the club to its first top 10 spot for years. We're now twice as far down the table and some fans (I wasn't one of them) chose to sing MA's name. Mandaric didn't like it. Big deal. A lot of people haven't been happy about things Mandaric has done. Many, including myself, praised him for his good sportsmanship in giving Forest a goal. They criticised him over MA. That's life and that's football fans. They are not an orchestra to be conducted or a media rep who can be manipulated. They live and breathe the club and will pass they own judgements.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 20 September 2007 Posted 20 September 2007 M Allen may well be revered by some because of his approach to our fans ....his daily messages.... his down to earth manner to which most fans have never ever seen before,plus the way he was relieved of his duties at the club. The more time goes on the more bemused I get by the near messiah like status Allen seems to have gained in the eyes of a big chunk of the City support. All he did was post some messages on the website, messages which may have been a good PR exercise but in no way whatsoever provided any indication of his competency or otherwise as a manager. The current manager (and future ones) should note that on this evidence, the hearts of the Leicester faithful are easily bought. I was shocked when he got the old heave ho so soon, but these things are done for a reason.
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