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Did anything happen at the game worthy of any note? No? Somebody? Anybody?

:dunno:

yes, for during the game i made a banana loaf, with some over ripe bananas which i'd never eat usually! should i bother with 'the championship', or leave cbeebies on?

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Did anything happen at the game worthy of any note? No? Somebody? Anybody?

:dunno:

I wouldn't know i was that murked with the football that i was buying my 1st of 4 halftime pints on 30 minutes & didn't get back up to my seat til 65 mins so missed even our goal :D was a reet good laff though lol

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Weird game. We played a completely different style of the football in the second half and we should have won that match. Not sure if keeping the ball on the floor in the second half was Megson's idea or not but it worked and proves that we can play football.

Team selection was atrocious. We lined up with only two midfielders. Can't decide if it was 3-4-3 or 5-2-3 but either way it was awful. The first half was one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a Leicester side. We constantly wasted posession and the front three looked completely useless.

In the second half when we played 3-5-2 with Hume in midfield really worked for me and we played good football. He played very well with Fryatt and Clemence looked good much improved in the second half too. Played some very nice balls out to the wings. Mattock looked good when he could get down the wing and Fryatt was very unlucky with the decisions going against him. The stoke players went to ground very easily. Stearman didn't have a bad match but didn't offer much going forward and was at fault for their goal. Fuller was allowed way too much time and space. N'Gotty looked ok but Kisnorbo was our best defender.

After that game I would would suggest our best team at the moment is:

--------------------Fulop---------------------

---------Kisnorbo--N'Gotty--McAuley------

-Chambers-------------------------Mattock-

----------Kishishev------Clemence---------

--------------------Hume---------------------

---------------Fryatt--De Vries--------------

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Weird game. We played a completely different style of the football in the second half and we should have won that match. Not sure if keeping the ball on the floor in the second half was Megson's idea or not but it worked and proves that we can play football.

Team selection was atrocious. We lined up with only two midfielders. Can't decide if it was 3-4-3 or 5-2-3 but either way it was awful. The first half was one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a Leicester side. We constantly wasted posession and the front three looked completely useless.

In the second half when we played 3-5-2 with Hume in midfield really worked for me and we played good football. He played very well with Fryatt and Clemence looked good much improved in the second half too. Played some very nice balls out to the wings. Mattock looked good when he could get down the wing and Fryatt was very unlucky with the decisions going against him. The stoke players went to ground very easily. Stearman didn't have a bad match but didn't offer much going forward and was at fault for their goal. Fuller was allowed way too much time and space. N'Gotty looked ok but Kisnorbo was our best defender.

After that game I would would suggest our best team at the moment is:

--------------------Fulop---------------------

---------Kisnorbo--N'Gotty--McAuley------

-Chambers-------------------------Mattock-

----------Kishishev------Clemence---------

--------------------Hume---------------------

---------------Fryatt--De Vries--------------

Like Kelly before him Megson has gone with defence overload and with through-the-team experience but to what effect?

Are we getting better League results? No.

Are we conceding fewer goals: No?

Are we creating more chances? No - in fact far less.

Truth is we have not created as many chances under Megson in three games as we created in either one of the single games against Blackpool or Watford under MA.

Fryatt apart, all flair has been abandoned or stands idle on the sidelines.

How we could do with people who try to make things happen.

Kaebi's probing passes and supportive energy and skill.

Or Sheehan's free-kicks and willingness to shoot from outside the box.

Or Andy King's searching passes, eye for a shooting opportunity and willingness to drive into the box from midfield.

But no. These people aren't even on the sub's bench as an option.

Instead we've got a mark two Kelly X1 - a neutered, expressionless, defence-overloaded team which is bereft of ideas, which lacks the skill to retain possession more than fleetingly and which supports only spasmodically (Stearman/Mattock excepted).

It is horrible to watch and it is Megson's fault because he picks the team and decides the emphasis.

Quite apart from the line-up there was no indication that Megson ever pointed out to his side that Stoke were close to the biggest team in the League and the way to beat them was to make them twist and turn by playing fast passes along the floor and by constantly moving them around and making their defensive line stretch.

Instead we started with two big men and hoisted so many balls in the air to our giant opponents that it was like feeding time at the zoo. Our tactics were laughable.

Only when we changed did we equalise and even then Megson immediately ended what was working by going all negative, replacing attacker Cort with defender Kishishev and putting the brake on all our impetus.

And one other thing. Since when has Kishishev been a free-kick specialist? He's no better or worse than lots of others but the job is a specific and vital one. We had three or four great opportunities that were just tamely wasted. We really have to do better than that.

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Only when we changed did we equalise and even then Megson immediately ended what was working by going all negative, replacing attacker Cort with defender Kishishev and putting the brake on all our impetus.

Cort did some attacking? All I saw him do was get in the way and act shite. If you want balls on the floor, you need a midfield for it to go through. The substitution made perfect sense and we looked better with Cort out of the way and Kishishev arriving late in the box.

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Cort did some attacking? All I saw him do was get in the way and act shite. If you want balls on the floor, you need a midfield for it to go through. The substitution made perfect sense and we looked better with Cort out of the way and Kishishev arriving late in the box.

Amen to that. Kish has had some stick from people- but it wasn't warranted yesterday.

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Cort did some attacking? All I saw him do was get in the way and act shite. If you want balls on the floor, you need a midfield for it to go through. The substitution made perfect sense and we looked better with Cort out of the way and Kishishev arriving late in the box.

When I talk about arriving late in the box I don't mean after everyone else. :D

Seriously by all means remind me cos while I did see Kish pushing the ball about on the edge of the box for a while I don't remember any dangerous surges into the area, any quick one-two's going into the box or any memorable shots on goal.

I don't want this to sound like a critique of Kishishev who I consider to be a steady and reliable midfielder who is well capable of keeping moves going.

But box to box he's not - and certainly not for any length of time. King is the man for that.

As for goals threat while Sheehan has scored two goals this season, Kish has scored only two goals in 193 matches since the year 2000.

I do want us to build attacks on the floor and having a big striker SHOULDN'T preclude that. The main point about retaining the big lad is that he takes defenders off his team-mates because he has to be marked.

Kishishev wouldn't have to be specifically marked because he wouldn't be there more than occasionally. The man has played 442 games or thereabouts (scoring 16 goals) . He's 33. He really isn't going to be a Frank Lampard.

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Cort's such a waste of a buy. If we hadn't got him we could have got someone like McLeod who'd probably see there's less competition for the first team. >_> Bitterly dissapointed with him.

And I'd like to see where all the Fryatt haters are right now, he's won/kept us in us 2 games and I notice there's a lack of 'Fatty Fryatt' being posted around the board when his name is mentioned now.

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Cort's such a waste of a buy. If we hadn't got him we could have got someone like McLeod who'd probably see there's less competition for the first team. >_> Bitterly dissapointed with him.

And I'd like to see where all the Fryatt haters are right now, he's won/kept us in us 2 games and I notice there's a lack of 'Fatty Fryatt' being posted around the board when his name is mentioned now.

i still mantain the fact i dont think fryatt is that good, hes played allright in two games and proably should be there on merit but i still see campbell and hume as first choice as far as im concerned

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Like Kelly before him Megson has gone with defence overload and with through-the-team experience but to what effect?

Are we getting better League results? No.

Are we conceding fewer goals: No?

Are we creating more chances? No - in fact far less.

Truth is we have not created as many chances under Megson in three games as we created in either one of the single games against Blackpool or Watford under MA.

Fryatt apart, all flair has been abandoned or stands idle on the sidelines.

How we could do with people who try to make things happen.

Kaebi's probing passes and supportive energy and skill.

Or Sheehan's free-kicks and willingness to shoot from outside the box.

Or Andy King's searching passes, eye for a shooting opportunity and willingness to drive into the box from midfield.

But no. These people aren't even on the sub's bench as an option.

Instead we've got a mark two Kelly X1 - a neutered, expressionless, defence-overloaded team which is bereft of ideas, which lacks the skill to retain possession more than fleetingly and which supports only spasmodically (Stearman/Mattock excepted).

It is horrible to watch and it is Megson's fault because he picks the team and decides the emphasis.

Quite apart from the line-up there was no indication that Megson ever pointed out to his side that Stoke were close to the biggest team in the League and the way to beat them was to make them twist and turn by playing fast passes along the floor and by constantly moving them around and making their defensive line stretch.

Instead we started with two big men and hoisted so many balls in the air to our giant opponents that it was like feeding time at the zoo. Our tactics were laughable.

Only when we changed did we equalise and even then Megson immediately ended what was working by going all negative, replacing attacker Cort with defender Kishishev and putting the brake on all our impetus.

And one other thing. Since when has Kishishev been a free-kick specialist? He's no better or worse than lots of others but the job is a specific and vital one. We had three or four great opportunities that were just tamely wasted. We really have to do better than that.

Thracian for manager - no I'm not being sarcastic - just in a hurry like MM. Smegs is not the way forward and we are only delaying the inevitable by being reasonable and giving him time. The players are not as bad as some people think but it is about time that the right decisions are made. We should be playing football instead of this dross.

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Very few of the new signing inspire me with confidence and I include DJ in this.

Carl Cort and DJ are not the answer. If we are going to play three up front it should be Fryatt,Hume and MDV.

Why not give Sappleton a go with Hume and Fryatt, we can always revert to two strikers if he does cut it.

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i still mantain the fact i dont think fryatt is that good, hes played allright in two games and proably should be there on merit but i still see campbell and hume as first choice as far as im concerned

Don't agree. Fryatt's finally starting to convince me. Now he's fully fit, his movement is first class, and utterly like no other striker we have. He gets into great positions and he will score goals. I'm not usually one for these kind of comments but I'll even go as far to say that barring injury and given a decent run in the team that he WILL be our 15 goal a season man this season.

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Don't agree. Fryatt's finally starting to convince me. Now he's fully fit, his movement is first class, and utterly like no other striker we have. He gets into great positions and he will score goals. I'm not usually one for these kind of comments but I'll even go as far to say that barring injury and given a decent run in the team that he WILL be our 15 goal a season man this season.

I agree. I couldn't see what his strengths were before, but they're pretty simple. His movement and reading of the game is good, ensuring he gets a lot of chances and is in the right place a lot. His close control is possibly the best aspect of his game, and his finishing is, whilst not first class, amply good enough for this level.

He's not as average as he looks at first.

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