Organ Donation

[Head Honcho]

Ironically the reason people die on dialysis is not down to the mess Labour have made of the NHS, it's because there are not enough organs. I haven't heard the Tories view on this matter, which is expected as the Gov't only announced it on Sunday. If they didn't state that they would seriously consider assumed consent I would be very disappointed, but otherwise I fail to see how voting Tory would worsen the situation. It was a labour government when I was on dialysis. People were dying then and they're dying now regardless of who is in power. Change is needed, and I actually agree with a previous post which states that if you opt out then you shouldn't be able to receive an organ. I think that's fair play.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle3180510.ece

Labour and most other parties support this but not The Tories! I wonder why?

.......................he wouldn't play party politics(again) and play with peoples lifes would he?

Surely not not "Big Dave"

[Raj]

I carry a Donor Card.

As long as im dead and feel no pain(!),they can have what they want to help someone else live.

I dont imagine there would ba a ruch to use my brain though!!!

[Floating Fox]

The problem with the current system is that not many people get around to it the amount of people I know who say they can have my organs when I die I don't care & then haven't actually got a donor card (which did include me) is nuts. Quite simply it costs lives, plus the family can override donor cards which I think is out of order if my family did that with me I'd be fuming(not that i'd ever know ).

I see what your saying and agree. I guess it shows you how lazy we all are then eh?

[Monk]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle3180510.ece

Labour and most other parties support this but not The Tories! I wonder why?

.......................he wouldn't play party politics(again) and play with peoples lifes would he?

Surely not not "Big Dave"

Disappointed to read that

What patient concern have said is an absolute load of bollocks!

[Head Honcho]

Disappointed to read that

What patient concern have said is an absolute load of bollocks!

...................but it Cameron all over-he'll go against Labour on every issue if it means winning votes!

[Monk]

Yeah, this one puzzles me as I genuinely dont think disagreeing with it gives him any advantage. Still, you know politics, they will probably change their mind next week, just like Labour did!

[Raj]

I'd kill anyone who doesnt support it.......

[Bert]

If my organ(s) would help someone else and they're no use to me, i don't see the problem.

[Monk]

Here

[BigGibbo]

If my organ(s) would help someone else and they're no use to me, i don't see the problem.

Good have you got a card then?

[l444ry]

GORDON BROWN DONATES ORGAN

Someone once advised to practice what you preach. In an effort to get the electorate to follow the leader, Gordon "Frankenstein" Brown has offered to donate his organ upon his death.

Prof. Sue Ture of The Royal College of Surgeons said;

"Perhaps it is not a well-known fact that politicians in general have very few organs to spare; research by the RCS has discovered that a large majority are spineless, heartless, lily-livered, short-sighted, hard-of-hearing and with little brain. That depletes the useful organ count by 75%. However, there is one organ that can be donated and Gordon is prepared to allow it to go to someone who needs it.

"Unfortunately, Wayne Bobbit has no need for one because his severed member was successfully reattached."

If anyone needs a dick, Gordon will give you one.

Elton John is considering donating his 1920 Wurlitzer Organ and may have need for a 'Brown Organ'

[Nationwider]

Transplantation has affected my life immensely.

I've enjoyed the benefit of two kidney transplants (at 19 and 25) and it's made a huge difference to my health, my lifestyle, my career and my family not having to dialyse for three nights every week, 52 weeks a year. That's not to say you don't get by on dialysis - you do. But I was one of the fortunate ones that had fewer complications than most.

I obviously support assumed consent. It costs about £26,000 to dialyse a kidney patient for a year. A transplant costs nearly twice as much, but then the aftercare is approximately £6,000 p/a so the benefits to the taxpayer are enormous in the long run. I must admit I'm fairly ignorant about other types of transplant, but I bet they give similar savings to the NHS over long periods of time.

I can appreciate some possible reasons for opting out, but would encourage people to look at the positives that can be gained from donating an organ.

[Daggers]

I'd sell a kidney for £52,000

[Rincewind]

The problem with the current system is that not many people get around to it the amount of people I know who say they can have my organs when I die I don't care & then haven't actually got a donor card (which did include me) is nuts. Quite simply it costs lives, plus the family can override donor cards which I think is out of order if my family did that with me I'd be fuming(not that i'd ever know ).

That is true as I was one. I never knew about the online registration but TBPH I never inquired about the possibility. This thread has in some way made me do something positive instead of sitting on my arse and saying anything can be used when I'm gone but neglecting to tell anyone. Thank you for the push.

But the proposed system has to be an improvement. If a request card was sent to everyone now asking to sign if willing to donate those that were unwilling would not return the card and a good percentage of those willing would not return the card. The new way the vast majority thad do not return a no card would be assumed to have said yes and there may in fact be less of the unwilling that have an apathetic view.

Does that make sense?

[Daggers]

Half a kidney and a gonad for £32,000

[Monk]

Half a kidney and a gonad for £32,000

I'll give you 32p and a bag of skittles, deal?

[Monk]

Transplantation has affected my life immensely.

I've enjoyed the benefit of two kidney transplants (at 19 and 25) and it's made a huge difference to my health, my lifestyle, my career and my family not having to dialyse for three nights every week, 52 weeks a year. That's not to say you don't get by on dialysis - you do. But I was one of the fortunate ones that had fewer complications than most.

I obviously support assumed consent. It costs about £26,000 to dialyse a kidney patient for a year. A transplant costs nearly twice as much, but then the aftercare is approximately £6,000 p/a so the benefits to the taxpayer are enormous in the long run. I must admit I'm fairly ignorant about other types of transplant, but I bet they give similar savings to the NHS over long periods of time.

I can appreciate some possible reasons for opting out, but would encourage people to look at the positives that can be gained from donating an organ.

Kudos man.

Dialysis is pants isn't it. I was lucky enough to go the 11 months I was on it with a Catheter and no fistula.

[Nationwider]

Kudos man.

Dialysis is pants isn't it. I was lucky enough to go the 11 months I was on it with a Catheter and no fistula.

I've done haemo and CAPD (as I've probably mentioned), so I 've had a peritoneal catheter, a vascath and a fistula for access at various times.

Its bad enough having to do it, without having to watch a dozen or so other buggers going through it at the same time (in a dialysis ward).

Swings and roundabout though.... I'm currently enjoying a delicious beer!

[BigGibbo]

That is true as I was one. I never knew about the online registration but TBPH I never inquired about the possibility. This thread has in some way made me do something positive instead of sitting on my arse and saying anything can be used when I'm gone but neglecting to tell anyone. Thank you for the push.

But the proposed system has to be an improvement. If a request card was sent to everyone now asking to sign if willing to donate those that were unwilling would not return the card and a good percentage of those willing would not return the card. The new way the vast majority thad do not return a no card would be assumed to have said yes and there may in fact be less of the unwilling that have an apathetic view.

Does that make sense?

Yes

Basically if you feel that strongly & are that selfish or follow some outdated religion that means you can not use any of your bodys components to save another life after death then you can jolly well make the effort to opt out yourself you @#*#@.

[Monk]

I've done haemo and CAPD (as I've probably mentioned), so I 've had a peritoneal catheter, a vascath and a fistula for access at various times.

Its bad enough having to do it, without having to watch a dozen or so other buggers going through it at the same time (in a dialysis ward).

Swings and roundabout though.... I'm currently enjoying a delicious beer!

Haha good work. I now eat raw tomatoes. Just because I can.

I just remember the first time they let me out of the ward after my op I went straight to the canteen at the general and piled my plate at the breakfast buffet. Amazing. The only thing I regret is the grapefruit juice! Damn Prograf.

[Nationwider]

Haha good work. I now eat raw tomatoes. Just because I can.

I just remember the first time they let me out of the ward after my op I went straight to the canteen at the general and piled my plate at the breakfast buffet. Amazing. The only thing I regret is the grapefruit juice! Damn Prograf.

Damn Prograf indeed. If only because I need Cyclosporin back in my life. The old barnet is thinning a bit and Cyclosporin makes the hair grow back in no time!

Monk - we should have pre-match beer sometime and talk scars.

[Bert]

Good have you got a card then?

I don't.

[Alexikokopops]

I don't.

Here

That Tories thing has irritated me.

[Bert]

Here

That Tories thing has irritated me.

Cheeers. To pay you back, i'll miss more attempts at the game.

[BigGibbo]

I don't.

Get on it!