Monk Posted 10 November 2007 Posted 10 November 2007 I'm interested to know everyone's opinion on this. I had a Kidney transplant off my dad 7 years ago, luckily I didn't have to wait for an organ on the transplant waiting list. There's a massive shortage of organs, not just kidneys, and the idea that there should be 'assumed consent' has been floated about a fair bit.This mean's you'd have to carry a card if you did not want you're organs to be used in the event that you died. I'm totally for it as I've seen people die, in pain, on dialysis whilst waiting for a kidney. So many people suffer and this really could make a difference. What do you think?
Alexikokopops Posted 10 November 2007 Posted 10 November 2007 I carry a donor card as it is, as well as being on the bone marrow transplant list. Anyone can have my bits and pieces, I'm fine with that.
Monk Posted 10 November 2007 Author Posted 10 November 2007 I carry a donor card as it is, as well as being on the bone marrow transplant list.Anyone can have my bits and pieces, I'm fine with that. I fear for the poor sod who gets your liver
BigGibbo Posted 10 November 2007 Posted 10 November 2007 Wheres the, Its completely fooking necessary & what the hell are you gonna do with your body when your dead anyway you selfish bar steward option
potter3 Posted 10 November 2007 Posted 10 November 2007 The bottom option, it's not you'd need it, or know about it when you're dead is it.
Monk Posted 10 November 2007 Author Posted 10 November 2007 The bottom option, it's not you'd need it, or know about it when you're dead is it. I think its more the point that if people do object (religous grounds etc) then they can opt out. But people still moan about it.
Alexikokopops Posted 10 November 2007 Posted 10 November 2007 I fear for the poor sod who gets your liver I think that's going to become some kind of medical wonder. "How can a man survive with a liver like this?" I'll go down in history. That's my aim anyway.
AoWW Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 Assumed consent is the way to go, imo. Folks are lazy.... several people I know just 'haven't got round to' getting a donor card. Obviously, if someone feels strongly against organ donation they should have the right to opt out, but I think those that are genuinely against would go to the trouble to get (and carry) a 'no' card. Apathy, in this situation, is criminal.
Phube Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I believe you should have to opt out definitely... Because even if you have a Donor Card you rellies can override that... which is just wrong!!
Monk Posted 11 November 2007 Author Posted 11 November 2007 3 people clicked against it, i'd be really interested to know why you don't see it OK to simply opt out?
BigGibbo Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 Some people are just selfish . . . actually alot of people!
morris1234 Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I think its more the point that if people do object (religous grounds etc) then they can opt out. But people still moan about it. ive discussed this with people before and they say that religion shouldnt matter and shouldnt really even be used as an excuse, but when this happens you see what they mean - http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,2205581,00.html
Webbo Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 On a similar theme, I've been on 'The Anthony Nolan Trust' donars list for a few years now and recently they thought they had found a person who needed my marrow so I had to send a blood sample to them. Apparently they found a better match so I wasn't needed. Anyway they sent me an E-mail and asked me pass on this link to every body I know, they are especially looking for men 18-25. This is the link The site is a bit confusing but give it a look please.
Alexikokopops Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 On a similar theme, I've been on 'The Anthony Nolan Trust' donars list for a few years now and recently they thought they had found a person who needed my marrow so I had to send a blood sample to them. Apparently they found a better match so I wasn't needed. Anyway they sent me an E-mail and asked me pass on this link to every body I know, they are especially looking for men 18-25. This is the link The site is a bit confusing but give it a look please. I signed up for Bone Marrow donoring when I was giving blood once but I can't remember whether it was NHS or this. Edit: After some brief research I've figured out I'm signed up to the British Bone Marrow Registry.
MPH Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 ive discussed this with people before and they say that religion shouldnt matter and shouldnt really even be used as an excuse, but when this happens you see what they mean - http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,2205581,00.html the absolutely disgraceful part about that articvle is "We can't believe she died in childbirth in this day and age, with all the technology there is. What makes it even more sad is Emma had time to hold and start to bond with her twins before complications set in." now THAT makes me really angry. i dont often get angry but how dare they blame 'technology' she ( and her family) didnt want the blood transfusion. I hope the husband explains properly what happened to the mother and why she died when his kids are older...
MPH Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I agree with the idea completly. i have joined the donors list ( several times, infact - i used to come accross these donor cards often when drunk! few years ago now). I wonder if there will be a legal case against this happening... Will the European Court of Human rights decide it is wrong to assume someones consent? Its the sort of thing i can see happening and would be a damn shame if it did on this one. Take it all, i say! Its a shame they cant do face transplants or some lucky git would be in therewith the ladies if i died...
Phube Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 the absolutely disgraceful part about that articvle isnow THAT makes me really angry. i dont often get angry but how dare they blame 'technology' she ( and her family) didnt want the blood transfusion. I hope the husband explains properly what happened to the mother and why she died when his kids are older... It is still the most dangerous thing a woman can do!! That story is just so... well you just think "What a waste... and how selfish can you get , poor kids..."
Monk Posted 11 November 2007 Author Posted 11 November 2007 If someone does not want their organs to be used for saving other people's lives then that's their decision. Religion or selfishness or whatever surely they could simply go and opt out. What I don't understand is why their protests stop this law going through. It's not infringing their rights in any way because they can opt out. Please would someone who voted NO explain to me why you couldnt just opt out? I'm not having a go I'd just like to know why
James. Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 6 people who have now voted against it and still a wall of silence as to any reasons, ridiculous or otherwise. I'm for it, absolutely. They can do with me whatever they please.
Thracian Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I've just told my missus I was planning to donate my organ - and she burst out laughing!.
Asha Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I don't see nothing wrong with assumed consent to be honest. I mean does it really matter to anyone what happens to their organs when your dead, either way you won't know about it...
AoWW Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I've just told my missus I was planning to donate my organ - and she burst out laughing!. Well-used, eh?!
Milky Posted 11 November 2007 Posted 11 November 2007 I wonder what all the long term effects of mixing organs are for the human race.
Monk Posted 14 January 2008 Author Posted 14 January 2008 Just thought I would drag this up seeing as it's in the news at the moment... Still interested to hear people's thoughts on assumed consent, and if you don't agree with it please state why... Link to BBC article Anything which reduces the number of people on life support systems like Dialysis as I was has got to be a bonus. One guy died while I was receiving treatment, and no exaggeration it is Fking awful. If you don't agree with assumed consent surely the answer is to opt out, and if this was done properly this would stop families intervening and stopping organs from being donated. It would drastically increase the availability of Organs and would allow surgeons to choose better organs rather than transplanting poor ones simply because there is no alternative. First good idea that Labour have had since they transferred Interest Rate responsibility to the BofE.
The People's Hero Posted 14 January 2008 Posted 14 January 2008 Assumed consent is the way to go, imo. Folks are lazy.... several people I know just 'haven't got round to' getting a donor card. Obviously, if someone feels strongly against organ donation they should have the right to opt out, but I think those that are genuinely against would go to the trouble to get (and carry) a 'no' card. Apathy, in this situation, is criminal. Yep - this is the way forwards. They can have whichever bits of me they want, I don't have donor card though - so it won't happen unfortunately. Can I get one online?
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