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Would you accept £1.5m for Mattock?

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Talented.

English.

Left footer.

Eng U21 International at 17.

You'd be crazy to accept that, as long as he's happy he and progresses well we should get at least 3 times that amount.

Mattock is one of those people - a bit like Sappleton - who is physically a bit bigger and stronger than most for his age.

When others catch up it will be down to his ability.

As a full-back I don't think he'll be faster or more capable than others.

As a wing back I don't think he's anywhere near as dangerous as Sheehan or Stearman. Nor do I think that will change.

It is quite clear that if we keep him we'll play him. But to me he's a bit short of what we need right now.

I would certainly take a good offer plus decent add ons.

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Mattock is one of those people - a bit like Sappleton - who is physically a bit biger and stronger than most for his age.

When others catch up it will be down to his ability.

As a full-back I don't think he'll be faster or more capable than others.

As a wing back I don't think he's anywhere near as dangerous as Sheehan or Stearman. Nor do I think that will change.

It is quite clear that if we keep him we'll play him. But to me he's a bit short of what we need right now.

I would certainly take a good offer plus decent add ons.

too right ; we need to stop thinking about "the ones for the future" and concentrate on getting out of the hole we've dug for ouselves

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Mattock is one of those people - a bit like Sappleton - who is physically a bit biger and stronger than most for his age.

When others catch up it will be down to his ability.

As a full-back I don't think he'll be faster or more capable than others.

As a wing back I don't think he's anywhere near as dangerous as Sheehan or Stearman. Nor do I think that will change.

It is quite clear that if we keep him we'll play him. But to me he's a bit short of what we need right now.

I would certainly take a good offer plus decent add ons.

I'd take 2.5 / 3 million

TBH though I'd prefer to keep him as Mandaric may spend the money on dross.

I'm into keeping young players so we can nurture them into mediocre, low end championship footballers.

N.

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Mattock is one of those people - a bit like Sappleton - who is physically a bit bigger and stronger than most for his age.

When others catch up it will be down to his ability.

As a full-back I don't think he'll be faster or more capable than others.

As a wing back I don't think he's anywhere near as dangerous as Sheehan or Stearman. Nor do I think that will change.

It is quite clear that if we keep him we'll play him. But to me he's a bit short of what we need right now.

I would certainly take a good offer plus decent add ons.

Stearman has some years on Mattock though. Whether he'll become better than Stearman in a few years time or worse than him, we'll just have to wait and see.

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I'd take 2.5 / 3 million

TBH though I'd prefer to keep him as Mandaric may spend the money on dross.

I'm into keeping young players so we can nurture them into mediocre, low end championship footballers.

N.

:o surely you mean holloway

Posted

City are a MASSIVE MASSIVE Club.

MASSIVE MASSIVE clubs dont sell players....we just BUY BUY BUY!!!

Dont matter if they are any good or not!!!! :)

Posted
too right ; we need to stop thinking about "the ones for the future" and concentrate on getting out of the hole we've dug for ouselves

We shouldn't need to be selling potential to get that right. Selling the likes of Stearman and Mattock, whatever people's views are of them undermines any team spirit we have and just means even more new faces to settle in.

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We shouldn't need to be selling potential to get that right. Selling the likes of Stearman and Mattock, whatever people's views are of them undermines any team spirit we have and just means even more new faces to settle in.

while i agree with your sentiments and it is indeed the correct way to go forward , but with the situation we are in right now if it means that by selling Mattock so that we could buy Fulop then i'd be in favour of selling future prospects to secure present day talent

( i realise this is purely hypothetical but i hope you see what i mean )

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too right ; we need to stop thinking about "the ones for the future" and concentrate on getting out of the hole we've dug for ouselves

The problem with Mattock applies to others. Leicester are in a situation where probably five youngsters at any one time would justify a place in the team but that is too many to assist their development and get the best out of them gradually.

We should have signed the senior players in the summer which would have meant us perhaps needing to use three such players at a time but those quality seniors didn't materialise and what few we've been left with are not good enough to be inspirational or help us into the sort of League position that might make final youth development a bit easier.

Look at Wesolowski for example. Unquestionably our best midfield player but too often we've hurried him back from injury out of sheer desperation because there was no sensible alternative. Doing that has probably kept £1.5m off his value.

Stearman is the same. He should be at his best now - fit, fast, strong and with over 100 games experience to give him additional confidence. Instead he's been given the demanding and highly exposed role of wing back while being surrounded by embarrssinly pedestrian potential cover. Like Weso he's half the value he should be.

I could keep going but I won't. It's only one more failing to be noted in a four-year catalogue of almost unparallelled underperformance by Leicester City at senior level whether in repect of our signings, the way we choose to play, our team selection, our coaching, our continuity, our sense of direction, our tactical acumen, our willingness to deal with glaring problems and so much more.

Like others I did expect changes for the better under MM but in fact the last 12 months have been a farce. Milan himself has obviously made mistakes but he must also feel that he's been woefully let down.

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Can I just state my position that I think there is no way in a million years that Mattock is worth anywhere near that much.

Mattock + crate of Mr Kipling Lemon Slices + Elvis Hammond (ankle) might be a little closer to that figure though.

Posted

£1.5 million with add ons and a sell-on clause of 15% and I'd gladly take the money and not look back.

Posted

No.

He's still learning his trade most players his age never experience what he has done these past few months with all the manager changes and what not. He will dip in form now and then.

Maybe if it was a 3-4 Million then yes bite thier hands off, 1.5 Million isn't much and would go on a right back or a pair of oaf like strikers.

Posted

If that was the basic fee and there was a sell on plus additional money for caps/premiership appearences I'd take it. He hasn't looked as good as Stearman did when he came into the side at the same age. We'd need a new left back sharpish though, but with Capaldi rumoured to be on his way guess that would be covered.

Posted
Mattock is one of those people - a bit like Sappleton - who is physically a bit bigger and stronger than most for his age.

When others catch up it will be down to his ability.

As a full-back I don't think he'll be faster or more capable than others.

As a wing back I don't think he's anywhere near as dangerous as Sheehan or Stearman. Nor do I think that will change.

It is quite clear that if we keep him we'll play him. But to me he's a bit short of what we need right now.

I would certainly take a good offer plus decent add ons.

Agree with that. I'm no expert but i've not seen anything in Mattock that makes me think "wow" hes going to be a player. Not quick, no fancy skill to beat anyone, not tough so noone gets past. He's only 17 - but you still have to demonstrate "something".

So it must be as you say - strong for his age and so has been ripping up the youth team leagues - but when people catch up I think he will be an average lower league player.

Stearman showed more at his age - and hes yet to set the world on fire.

So I would take 50p

But what do I know.

Posted
Agree with that. I'm no expert but i've not seen anything in Mattock that makes me think "wow" hes going to be a player. Not quick, no fancy skill to beat anyone, not tough so noone gets past. He's only 17 - but you still have to demonstrate "something".

So it must be as you say - strong for his age and so has been ripping up the youth team leagues - but when people catch up I think he will be an average lower league player.

Stearman showed more at his age - and hes yet to set the world on fire.

Agreed.

An offer like £1.5 million I'd snap their hands off. Like Steve says, I haven't seen anything from Mattock that suggests to me he's going to be worth much more than that in the future.

The aspects of his game that need improving can be improved fairly easily, and I suppose he will improve with age but like I say, I can never see him being a really valued player at this club.

Posted

In an ideal world I would want to keep him.

However, if his sale for that amount could allow us to buy 3 or so players to bolster our midfield power this season and avoid relegation then I would sell, unfortunately.

As promising as he is, a 17 year old left back is not going to save us.

Posted
In an ideal world I would want to keep him.

However, if his sale for that amount could allow us to buy 3 or so players to bolster our midfield power this season and avoid relegation then I would sell, unfortunately.

As promising as he is, a 17 year old left back is not going to save us.

Don't get me wrong - cus i'm as wrong as the next wrong person :) but what is it that people see as "promising"? I'm not seeing it - just that for all our options him and sheehan are the only two players with left feet that can play at left back? (and at least sheehan can deliver a mean free kick or corner - if he does litle else - but at least I can pin a thats whats promising about him).

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Weso has been injured serious twice and has barely played 10 consecutive games. Why would a big club want a player like that? I think the guy could have talent but i'm yet to really see it.

Mattock - needs a good left back to teach him how to be one, then maybe he could be good, gets caught out far too often, had he always played left back or did hw used to be a winger???

Logan - about as good as henderson.

Stearman, i used to really rate, perhaps again player with better players will bring the best of out him.

All in all, i'm not sure any will end up being premiership regulars, perhaps Weso, I don't know.

Posted

I would accept the bid if there was one for that amount.

Players at this age can go either way and too be honest - although I rate him - he doesnt ooze absolute quality

I agree with a previous poster that an experienced full back at the club would do wonders for him but at the moment that isnt the case so I would take the cash

Posted
Agree with that. I'm no expert but i've not seen anything in Mattock that makes me think "wow" hes going to be a player. Not quick, no fancy skill to beat anyone, not tough so noone gets past. He's only 17 - but you still have to demonstrate "something".

So it must be as you say - strong for his age and so has been ripping up the youth team leagues - but when people catch up I think he will be an average lower league player.

Stearman showed more at his age - and hes yet to set the world on fire.

So I would take 50p

But what do I know.

Perfect answer.

Posted
Talented.

English.

Left footer.

Eng U21 International at 17.

You'd be crazy to accept that, as long as he's happy he and progresses well we should get at least 3 times that amount.

but he's crap!-he gives the ball away cheaply and he's always dragged out of position

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