Hossein Kaebi

[Jimmy]

How would that have happened?

If they'd gone into the reserves their ability would have stood out in an instant.

That never happened with Kaebi.

because some people don't get motivated for a NOTHING game such as a reserves match, there is absolutely NOTHING resting on the result of the games, so they are nothing more then a glorified friendly.

meaning in order to get a fair judgement sometimes you need to put someone into the cut and thrust of a competitive 1st team environment to get them fully motivated and playing to the best of their ability.

[The People's Hero]

How would that have happened?

If they'd gone into the reserves their ability would have stood out in an instant.

That never happened with Kaebi.

That's not actually true of all players which shine in the first team, as you well know.

I'm sick of how you change your criteria depending on who is being judged.

Stop moving the sodding goalposts (although I admit, if we could move them at will perhaps Elvis Hammond might score).

[STUHILL]

because some people don't get motivated for a NOTHING game such as a reserves match, there is absolutely NOTHING resting on the result of the games, so they are nothing more then a glorified friendly.

meaning in order to get a fair judgement sometimes you need to put someone into the cut and thrust of a competitive 1st team environment to get them fully motivated and playing to the best of their ability.

Reserves should be seen as their chance of getting in to the first team. the manager watches a lot of the reserve outings and also no doubt has reports on each player that took part. If that doesnt motivate a player to work hard and shine, then to be honest I dont want them at the club. You should be willing to work and prove your inclusion in the squad!!

[morris1234]

That's not actually true of all players which shine in the first team, as you well know.

I'm sick of how you change your criteria depending on who is being judged.

Stop moving the sodding goalposts (although I admit, if we could move them at will perhaps Elvis Hammond might score).

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[Geo V]

Sometimes you need to see players in the first team to see whether they are up to it. What if we'd kept Laczko and Bori in the reserves for the rest of the season?

[Jimmy]

Reserves should be seen as their chance of getting in to the first team. the manager watches a lot of the reserve outings and also no doubt has reports on each player that took part. If that doesnt motivate a player to work hard and shine, then to be honest I dont want them at the club. You should be willing to work and prove your inclusion in the squad!!

look do you seriously think their performance in a glorified friendly has that much effect when the manager works with them every day in training, which gives him a better indication of the players abilities and attitude, the only thing the reserves are good for are rehabilitating injured players and starting to integrate the better youth teamers into the more physically demanding level of the mens game

[Thracian]

That's not actually true of all players which shine in the first team, as you well know.

I'm sick of how you change your criteria depending on who is being judged.

Stop moving the sodding goalposts (although I admit, if we could move them at will perhaps Elvis Hammond might score).

As a Fryatt fan (or is that former fan) you've got no grounds to keep hammering Hammond.

Of the people in our first team squad who've played more than the odd game in the reserves ALL have stood out as a class above.

Kaebi must have played around 10 reseves games and didn't shine. Quite the contrary on occasions.

Are you seriously suggesting Laczko and Bori wouldn't have contested MoM honours in the reserves over such a period?

Maybe you'd be right - if they'd played in blindfolds or on one leg.

[STUHILL]

look do you seriously think their performance in a glorified friendly has that much effect when the manager works with them every day in training, which gives him a better indication of the players abilities and attitude, the only thing the reserves are good for are rehabilitating injured players and starting to integrate the better youth teamers into the more physically demanding level of the mens game

err yeh, of course it does. You can be best player in training but if you can't reproduce that in match situations, 11 v 11, then you will never get picked or stay in the team. If say a player like Kaebi is constantly putting in solid performances, even scoring goals from the wing, then of course he will begin to work his way in to the managers thoughts! I know that reserves are used for a number of things like injured players or youth, but your wrong if you think it's not also a way of players to force themselves in to the mangers first team plans by consistently producing great performances. Answer me this...if Holloway watches reserve matches which he often does, if a player doesn't seem to be motivated or perform very well, then why the hell would he consider playing him in the first team at the weekend? Whereas if he shines, a few good runs or a goal or two, Ollie might think again!

[mancunianfox]

because some people don't get motivated for a NOTHING game such as a reserves match, there is absolutely NOTHING resting on the result of the games, so they are nothing more then a glorified friendly.

meaning in order to get a fair judgement sometimes you need to put someone into the cut and thrust of a competitive 1st team environment to get them fully motivated and playing to the best of their ability.

If they can't get motivated for a reserve game they shouldn't be professional footballers and I certainly wouldn't want them at this club. I don't know about you but I hate losing and if I were a pro footballer I would also hate playing in the reserves. If that is not incentive to for a player to play well then they shouldn't be playing the game.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I only put that about the Magyars to reel Thracian in, especially considering how he threw his toys out of the pram a day or two before their debut.

Obviously Holloway's not keen on Kaebi and I trust his judgment. Time to move on. Laczko actually appears to be the player I was hoping from Kaebi.

[The People's Hero]

I only put that about the Magyars to reel Thracian in, especially considering how he threw his toys out of the pram a day or two before their debut.

Obviously Holloway's not keen on Kaebi and I trust his judgment. Time to move on. Laczko actually appears to be the player I was hoping from Kaebi.

Yeah but he should have to spend time on loan at Lincoln like hero Doddsy grumble grumble grumble.

[STUHILL]

If they can't get motivated for a reserve game they shouldn't be professional footballers and I certainly wouldn't want them at this club. I don't know about you but I hate losing and if I were a pro footballer I would also hate playing in the reserves. If that is not incentive to for a player to play well then they shouldn't be playing the game.

I totally agree, if i were a professional and especially if in Kaebis case in playing in a foreign country, I would work my socks off in reserves. Even if players around me weren't! I would assume that every player on Leicester city books wants to be playing for the first team, and unless they're incredibly stupid, must know that by not even playing well in reserves, is going to limit their chance of impressing the manager enough to place them in the first team.

[Scow]

Does Hammond still have this 'mysterious ankle' injury? Him and Howard upfront would be superb.

[orod]

because some people don't get motivated for a NOTHING game such as a reserves match, there is absolutely NOTHING resting on the result of the games, so they are nothing more then a glorified friendly.

meaning in order to get a fair judgement sometimes you need to put someone into the cut and thrust of a competitive 1st team environment to get them fully motivated and playing to the best of their ability.

thats exactly right

if i was kaebi and id played professional football for 5 or 6 years, got 50 odd caps for my country and represented them in the world cup, then it would piss me off playing against kids and it would affect my game. he needs to be given a chance.

and about motivation, dont forget lads that at the end of the day hes only about 21 and in a foreign country so different to his own so he needs a bit of support - esp from peeps like us

[Flexx]

That's not actually true of all players which shine in the first team, as you well know.

I'm sick of how you change your criteria depending on who is being judged.

Stop moving the sodding goalposts (although I admit, if we could move them at will perhaps Elvis Hammond might score).

I just spat my coleslaw sandwich out, reading that! haha

[James.]

Who the FUCK is Hossein Kaebi?

[Babylon]

Who the FUCK is kaiser soze?

[Ric Flair]

Kaebi has similar hair to my Jesus, Lionel Ritchie. That's enough for me.

[CKB]

Kaebi has similar hair to my Jesus, Lionel Ritchie. That's enough for me.

Hello? is it Kaebi your looking for!

I can see it in his eyes

I can see it in his smile

All he ever wanted to do was play football but Ollie's arms weren't open wide!

Cause he don't know what to say, his English is rather gay

And we want to tell you so much.........

....i can't think of a decent ending!

[The People's Hero]

Hello? is it Kaebi your looking for!

I can see it in his eyes

I can see it in his smile

All he ever wanted to do was play football but Ollie's arms weren't open wide!

Cause he don't know what to say, his English is rather gay

And we want to tell you so much.........

....i can't think of a decent ending!

or start/middle?

[CKB]

or start/middle?

Very true

[Calum McDermott]

thats exactly right

if i was kaebi and id played professional football for 5 or 6 years, got 50 odd caps for my country and represented them in the world cup, then it would piss me off playing against kids and it would affect my game. he needs to be given a chance.

and about motivation, dont forget lads that at the end of the day hes only about 21 and in a foreign country so different to his own so he needs a bit of support - esp from peeps like us

holloway said that the reserves was no place for kaebi! however, he said later that he was frustrated with his lack of english...

[Thracian]

because some people don't get motivated for a NOTHING game such as a reserves match, there is absolutely NOTHING resting on the result of the games, so they are nothing more then a glorified friendly.

meaning in order to get a fair judgement sometimes you need to put someone into the cut and thrust of a competitive 1st team environment to get them fully motivated and playing to the best of their ability.

He was motivated - you could see that by watching him, assuming you bothered..

And having not played well in the reserves what's your excuse for him in the first team? Players around him not good enough, too windy, game played on a Saturday?

One thing seems certain - you didn't go to Hull. That was a competitive first team environment and Kaebi got flattened, time and again.

[Manwell Pablo]

ffs is this still going on.

He hasn't fitted in end of story.

[Thracian]

That's not actually true of all players which shine in the first team, as you well know.

I'm sick of how you change your criteria depending on who is being judged.

Stop moving the sodding goalposts (although I admit, if we could move them at will perhaps Elvis Hammond might score).

I suppose having listened to you making a case for "Fantasy" Fryatt over these last 18 months I shouldn't really be surprised at you suddenly championing Kaebi.

Are you sure Maidstone don't want him?