Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I'd be on the first train out of Leicester. We need someone who is going to knock in the chances when the ball drops in and around the penalty area and yet Ollie perseveres with Steve 'donkey' Howard, Iain 'headless chicken' Hume and Barry 'OAP' Hayles. Fryatt may not have the greatest goalscoring record but what he needs is a run in the first team. Last season he was totally disrupted by a load of injuries. What's more he encourages us to play good football - he's not particularly big so no high balls and he's not quick so none over the top. He'll encourage us to pass through teams as he's good with his back to goal and brings others into the game well. The sooner Ollie sees that the man to get us out of this mess is currently his fifth choice striker the better.
Babylon Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 We need someone who is going to knock in the chances.Fryatt may not have the greatest goalscoring record. How many chances do people want the guy to have, the great white hope is not that great.
Jimmy Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Hume isn't being played upfront but I agree Fryatt should be playing alongside either Hume or Campbell
Daggers Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I'd be on the first train out of Leicester. I think you'll find that seat is reserved in my name. I'm calling the conductor...
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 How many chances do people want the guy to have, the great white hope is not that great. I'm sorry but you couldn't really have taken that more out of context. The one time he got a good 15 match run in the team without injury or being dropped was when he first got here and he got 6 goals.
davieG Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I'd be on the first train out of Leicester. We need someone who is going to knock in the chances when the ball drops in and around the penalty area and yet Ollie perseveres with Steve 'donkey' Howard, Iain 'headless chicken' Hume and Barry 'OAP' Hayles. Fryatt may not have the greatest goalscoring record but what he needs is a run in the first team. Last season he was totally disrupted by a load of injuries. What's more he encourages us to play good football - he's not particularly big so no high balls and he's not quick so none over the top. He'll encourage us to pass through teams as he's good with his back to goal and brings others into the game well. The sooner Ollie sees that the man to get us out of this mess is currently his fifth choice striker the better. I think that is the biggest Fryatt myth around. Most of the time he retains the ball, ignoring all others around him until he eventually loses it. Being greedy for a striker is no bad thing provided you score plenty of goals otherwise, well you're just being greedy.
davieG Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I'd be on the first train out of Leicester. We need someone who is going to knock in the chances when the ball drops in and around the penalty area and yet Ollie perseveres with Steve 'donkey' Howard, Iain 'headless chicken' Hume and Barry 'OAP' Hayles. Fryatt may not have the greatest goalscoring record but what he needs is a run in the first team. Last season he was totally disrupted by a load of injuries. What's more he encourages us to play good football - he's not particularly big so no high balls and he's not quick so none over the top. He'll encourage us to pass through teams as he's good with his back to goal and brings others into the game well. The sooner Ollie sees that the man to get us out of this mess is currently his fifth choice striker the better. On a lighhter note you are Fryatt and I claim my £5 ttfn = ta ta for now
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 On a lighhter note you are Fryatt and I claim my £5 ttfn = ta ta for now Haha, I wish. Almost every time I've seen Fryatt play he brings others into the game well -far better than any other strikers we have at the moment. If Clemence and Oakley are to be truly effective we need a striker who can retain the ball - Fryatt.
maddog Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Hume isn't being played upfront but I agree Fryatt should be playing alongside either Hume or Campbell How could you possibly want Hume and Fryatt. That partnership doesn't work. Not under Levein, Kelly, so won't work now. To go back to that would be ridiculous.
Thracian Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I think that is the biggest Fryatt myth around. Most of the time he retains the ball, ignoring all others around him until he eventually loses it. Being greedy for a striker is no bad thing provided you score plenty of goals otherwise, well you're just being greedy. Spot on and I doubt he'd be properly match fit at this time anyway. The best case for him is a place on the bench.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Spot on and I doubt he'd be properly match fit at this time anyway. The best case for him is a place on the bench. If he's not properly match fit then it's Holloway's fault for not playing him. In the two minutes he was on against Plymouth he did more than the rest of the strikers in that game put together. He's been playing reserves football anyway so why wouldn't he be fit? There's a hard core of Fryatt haters on here who are simply unwilling to accept that given the current state of things, we could do far worse than to give him a shot in this new look team.
Thracian Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 If he's not properly match fit then it's Holloway's fault for not playing him. In the two minutes he was on against Plymouth he did more than the rest of the strikers in that game put together. He's been playing reserves football anyway so why wouldn't he be fit?There's a hard core of Fryatt haters on here who are simply unwilling to accept that given the current state of things, we could do far worse than to give him a shot in this new look team. There's only been two reserve fixtures since Christmas. As for Fryatt haters, he's had more support than any striker I could imagine for the goals he's delivered. No-one "hates" Fryatt - they've just seen him given chance after chance in the team without convincing anyone. We all know he can have a decent 10/15 minute cameo and fashion a chance or two. But we need more than that. We need a guy who's consistently dangerous and who has more qualities than Fryatt seems to show.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 There's only been two reserve fixtures since Christmas. As for Fryatt haters, he's had more support than any striker I could imagine for the goals he's delivered. No-one "hates" Fryatt - they've just seen him given chance after chance in the team without convincing anyone. We all know he can have a decent 10/15 minute cameo and fashion a chance or two. But we need more than that. We need a guy who's consistently dangerous and who has more qualities than Fryatt seems to show. Fryatt also played 90 minutes (or the best part of) against QPR and Southampton, as well as the reserve football. He's had support from a certain section of posters, that's for sure. However, you and others have slated him every time he plays even when he plays better than many others on the field. You're right - we do need a guy who's consistently dangerous. We have 5 strikers and Fryatt comes closest of all of them to fulfilling those criteria. Campbell is profligate in front of goal, Howard doesn't seem to know his arse from his elbow and in my opinion, Hume's sulking is rendering him utterly ineffective. Don't even get me started on Hayles. I'm not saying that Fryatt's the messiah, but he's a darn sight better 'in and around the box' than anyone else we've got at the moment.
Bluenose76 Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 There's only been two reserve fixtures since Christmas. As for Fryatt haters, he's had more support than any striker I could imagine for the goals he's delivered. No-one "hates" Fryatt - they've just seen him given chance after chance in the team without convincing anyone. We all know he can have a decent 10/15 minute cameo and fashion a chance or two. But we need more than that. We need a guy who's consistently dangerous and who has more qualities than Fryatt seems to show. Agreed, but who at the moment? We have already tried to buy our way out with Howard. Holloway is known (and has shown) that he likes the direct approach. Fryatt doesn't fit into the Holloway style as far as I can see. All I am seeing at the moment is that the manager is devoid of any real tactical nous and when things are not going his way he resorts to chucking on strikers and in the process loses the complete shape of the team. All in all it leads to me to think that Holloway is lost for answers at the moment.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 There will come a time were Matty Fryatt will prove the doubters wrong however I don't think it will be here.
Uncle Albert Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Fryatt has been treated like crap, what harm can it do if he starts on Saturday with the state we are already in.
Joe. Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Note to Leicester City fans: Matty. Fryatt. Isn't. That. Good. He's not the man to bring goals to this team that we need. In fact he's not played well since his few goals at the end of the 05/06 season under Levein/Kelly. He's had his chances this season and he's not taken them. Everytime he's played he's not looked sharp and not looked like scoring. Too many opportunities wasted by him for me.
Thracian Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 Agreed, but who at the moment? We have already tried to buy our way out with Howard. Holloway is known (and has shown) that he likes the direct approach. Fryatt doesn't fit into the Holloway style as far as I can see.All I am seeing at the moment is that the manager is devoid of any real tactical nous and when things are not going his way he resorts to chucking on strikers and in the process loses the complete shape of the team. All in all it leads to me to think that Holloway is lost for answers at the moment. I couldn't argue with a word of your conclusion. He seems way out of his depth to me.
The People's Hero Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 There will come a time were Matty Fryatt will prove the doubters wrong however I don't think it will be here. I genuinely think he needs to drop a level and play for a decent footballing team for a year or so. Then have another crack at the Championship. I like Fryatt - but it's gone stale for him here - time for a move.
Simi Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I'm sorry but you couldn't really have taken that more out of context. The one time he got a good 15 match run in the team without injury or being dropped was when he first got here and he got 6 goals. There are reasons as to why he gets dropped. He's not impressed once this season for me. He's there to score goals and quite frankly he hasn't. He's not done anything to warrant a start, I have no big problem with him coming on as a sub, but he has to earn the right. DJ looked very sharp last night and offered us so many different passes. Howard wasn't great, but we're still not using the wingers to our advantage.
Thracian Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I genuinely think he needs to drop a level and play for a decent footballing team for a year or so.Then have another crack at the Championship. I like Fryatt - but it's gone stale for him here - time for a move. The above, more than anything, sums up how bad it's got for Fryatt. Case of last one out, please turn the light off.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 There are reasons as to why he gets dropped. He's not impressed once this season for me. He's there to score goals and quite frankly he hasn't. He's not done anything to warrant a start, I have no big problem with him coming on as a sub, but he has to earn the right.DJ looked very sharp last night and offered us so many different passes. Howard wasn't great, but we're still not using the wingers to our advantage. Fez told me DJ was shite. looking at the player rating most people seem to agree.
The People's Hero Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 The above, more than anything, sums up how bad it's got for Fryatt. Case of last one out, please turn the light off. This is one of your long held but completely incorrect assertions. I am not Fryatt's biggest fan - but talent is there. One day, he'll show that again, but like Manwell, I don't think that will be with us.
Bluenose76 Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 I couldn't argue with a word of your conclusion. He seems way out of his depth to me. So what are the answers? Sacking Holloway is not really an option at this stage in the season. For the first time in ages I am lost for the solutions I really am. What on earth made him a relative success at Plymouth and why can't that be emulated here? It draws me to the the conclusion that maybe he is fine with smaller clubs but has difficulty in coping with our potential.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2008 Posted 13 February 2008 This is one of your long held but completely incorrect assertions.I am not Fryatt's biggest fan - but talent is there. One day, he'll show that again, but like Manwell, I don't think that will be with us. I think you're right. Which is sad. But the only reason it can't be with us is because nobody is giving him a chance. Let's stick him in the team and give him at least 5 games. If he doesn't produce then fair enough, ship him out. But Howard is not performing, Hume is sulking, Hayles is crap and DJ's inconsistent. Give Fryatt a chance in this new team
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