Milan Mandaric

[Lets Be having You]

I am a dishevelled tramp scratching my crotch in the gutter

You got that about right as for the rest i'm not sure,so suggest you get back to your drink,and the gutter

[Daggers]

I think he invested a lot of trust in Martin Allen and his signings, and I think that was massively unwise. But since then I just don't see what's been so catastrophic about his ownership of the club.

He told Holloway he could have money for a play off push if Holloway could show signs of improvement, he didn't. Mandaric was good to his word and restricted his spending (likely expecting another mid-table finish and writing off the season.) I think Holloway's a good appointment, I still do, I think Plymouth's current league position is testament to what Ian Holloway can create at a football club and I think you'd have to be retarded to see otherwise. He's been allowed to bring his chief scout, who was likely instrumental to his success, with him as well as his assistants.

Even though the pressure seems to have gotten to Ollie, you can't predict something like that. You'd look at Holloway's track record and - if I were chairman - I'd have had the same expectations I suspect Mandaric would have, at the time. And that was "this man can build a team." It hasn't happened, admittedly, but I don't think - again - you can blame Mandaric necessarily for the fact that we've plunged even further towards danger.

I don't think we'll go down. And I hope Holloway will stay, and I hope he'll prove me right (I guess in the back of our hearts, we all do) but even if he doesn't I just think branding Mandaric an incompetent idiot is huge sensationalism and the product of high emotions at the club and understandable disappointment. Yes, it's rather obvious he isn't going to be the Messiah we wanted - yes, it does look like the three-year plan was a more realistic goal than the support's own "Yay, we have Allen, we're going up now!" bollocks and yes Mandaric has made a couple of goofs. But American Idiot? I thought you were a sharper tool than that, Daggers, tbh. This is the sort of simplified ranting I'd expect from Ultra.

That's just obtuse. He has money. We didn't. Again, whether he has as much as we want him to have or whether he's used it wisely / at all is another matter, but we're much more financially secure while he has the deeds than we were before.

If you can not debate a point without being insulting then I really do not think I can be bothered to argue the toss

I am a dishevelled tramp scratching my crotch in the gutter

You got that about right as for the rest i'm not sure,so suggest you get back to your drink,and the gutter

What?

[Finnegan]

If you can not debate a point without being insulting then I really do not think I can be bothered to argue the toss

You can pull that stuff on the Neanderthals of this forum, Dave - don't insult my intelligence with it (or your ample own.)

In all sincerity, beyond his handling of managers pre-Megson (who could predict a Premiership club wanting him!?) which we knew he was notorious for before taking over, what is his contribution to our situation that's so severely worth your disdain?

[Raj]

However in MM's defence he has let the managers get on with buying their own(inadequate and crap) players.

MM only signed N'Gotty and the rest were signed by his appointed managers.

He has invested in the club when NO-ONE else(dont believe any bullshit about people waiting to pump money in!)

We've never had so many players signed in pre-season (although they have been inadequate and crap,this was NOT MM's fault was it?)

Im sure in MM's worst nightmares he wouldnt have expected us to be in this situation and to be fair,on paper,with the players and squad we have,we shouldnt should we?

So im sure MM has made mistakes and should be accountable for it,but there are people(ie Players) who shuld be more accountable for the predicement we are facing now.

When we had our false dawns throughout the season(iewatford, Villa,Covo,Norwich) i didnt hear many people saying"oh that Manderic has really done wonders for us" so in effect why should he be the scapegoat now?

Having said all that,i DO understand why people have a go at him,so im ot having a go at people having a go at him!!!

[davieG]

However in MM's defence he has let the managers get on with buying their own(inadequate and crap) players.

MM only signed N'Gotty and the rest were signed by his appointed managers.

MM said that N'Gotty was the only player that 'MA didn't know about before he signed him', he didn't say whether others had been foisted on him or not. I guess we'll never know, but I find impossible to believe that it was MA that 'found' Kaebi, Djeziri, Ferreira and Hellings for starters.

But hey this has been debated many times and is water under the bridge but I sincerely believe that MMs choice of words to describe his involvement say's more than the balck and white of it.

[Raj]

MM said that N'Gotty was the only player that 'MA didn't know about before he signed him', he didn't say whether others had been foisted on him or not. I guess we'll never know, but I find impossible to believe that it was MA that 'found' Kaebi, Djeziri, Ferreira and Hellings for starters.

But hey this has been debated many times and is water under the bridge but I sincerely believe that MMs choice of words to describe his involvement say's more than the balck and white of it.

The water that is under the bridge doesnt lead to League One does it davieG??

Well.....does it or not??

Tell me??

I hate bloody water under bridges.

I get seasick...even though they aint no bridges in the sea.

My head hurts now!

[davieG]

The water that is under the bridge doesnt lead to League One does it davieG??

Well.....does it or not??

Tell me??

I hate bloody water under bridges.

I get seasick...even though they aint no bridges in the sea.

My head hurts now!

I guess water over the dam (weir) night be more appropriate as per my sig

[Fat Ron]

**** sake, If Milan left now we would undoubtebly go into Administration (again!!) lose 10 points as a penalty and suffer certain relegation. In League 1 with No money and a squad low on confidence does any one believe we could bounce back?

Like, love or hate him he saved our club from financial meltodwn and unless you have a spare £10/15 Million to invest in the club yourself its a pointless argument. If he goes who would want to take us on??

**** it, Im starting the FC Leicester campaign!!

[Master Fox]

**** sake, If Milan left now we would undoubtebly go into Administration (again!!) lose 10 points as a penalty and suffer certain relegation. In League 1 with No money and a squad low on confidence does any one believe we could bounce back?

Like, love or hate him he saved our club from financial meltodwn and unless you have a spare £10/15 Million to invest in the club yourself its a pointless argument. If he goes who would want to take us on??

**** it, Im starting the FC Leicester campaign!!

The what??

[Fat Ron]

The what??

I am the Milan Manderic (without money or a big nose) of the Fans.

[Daggers]

I am the Milan Manderic (without money or a big nose) of the Fans.

So, basically, you are just a seedy-looking old bloke then?

[Fat Ron]

So, basically, you are just a seedy-looking old bloke then?

Not so old actually.. but yes seedy-looking

In all seriousness though, I can understand why fans dont like him, he has made some strange/dodgy choices along the way but if he wasnt here we may not even have a club to follow.

[davieG]

Not so old actually.. but yes seedy-looking

In all seriousness though, I can understand why fans dont like him, he has made some strange/dodgy choices along the way but if he wasnt here we may not even have a club to follow.

I think that's a tad melodramatic! Besides if we get relegated this season I dread to think what lies in store because financially we'd be buggered and I'm totally unconvinced that MM would continue to stump up loans.

I suspect all those that were in favour of the Milan takeover based that on the assumption that we would be successful. It would be inrteresting to see how supportive the fans would have been if the options had been

Risk relegation this season and possible admnistration or

Vote for MIlan and get relgated next season.

Not quite so inviting as I'm investing £25mill to take you to the Premier League.

[FilboFox]

FC Leicester?

If you get that going properly, I'd play as a speedy winger!

But I couldn't support them... Leicester City are my one and only.

[FilboFox]

I think that's a tad melodramatic! Besides if we get relegated this season I dread to think what lies in store because financially we'd be buggered and I'm totally unconvinced that MM would continue to stump up loans.

I agree... I guess he'd leave and then we'd go into administration, our best players would leave, we would struggle in League 1 and maybe get relegated again... then we'd fall into obscurity... possibly going out of business and Leicester City would be no more...

Please God DO NOT let us get relegated!

[The People's Hero]

Didn't he build us a load of straight roads and aqueducts or something?

[Master Fox]

Still none the wiser

[Fat Ron]

I think that's a tad melodramatic! Besides if we get relegated this season I dread to think what lies in store because financially we'd be buggered and I'm totally unconvinced that MM would continue to stump up loans.

Maybe a bit melodramatic but we wern't exactly setting the division alight before Milan were we. We were in a similar position to what we are now but with less money, a lot less money.

For all his faults he has provided the funds to but Oakley, Clemence, DJ, Howard and pay wages for the likes of Hendrie and N'Gotty. You cant blame the chairman for their lack of performance on the field.

We have a very strong squad thanks to his cheque book its just a shame it was built during the season with no time to bond or gel and when things were already going wrong.

[davieG]

Maybe a bit melodramatic but we wern't exactly setting the division alight before Milan were we. We were in a similar position to what we are now but with less money, a lot less money.

For all his faults he has provided the funds to but Oakley, Clemence, DJ, Howard and pay wages for the likes of Hendrie and N'Gotty. You cant blame the chairman for their lack of performance on the field.

We have a very strong squad thanks to his cheque book its just a shame it was built during the season with no time to bond or gel and when things were already going wrong.

Well I'd be more convinced if I felt confident that the money for those players was without strings attached as it is I suspect it's all to do with loans and sleight of hand rather than his check book.

And I think the chairman has a lot to do with the performance on the field, he has had a massive impact on the fans, the players and not least the managment teams, do they even feel secure?

The culture of the club has changed there is no unity - this is an MM legacy!

Last year when we we're in the shit the fans finally stood up to be counted part way through the Brum game because they knew no onne else was going to do anything, now many sit around waiting for the next loanee/striker to save us.

[Raj]

Well I'd be more convinced if I felt confident that the money for those players was without strings attached as it is I suspect it's all to do with loans and sleight of hand rather than his check book.

And I think the chairman has a lot to do with the performance on the field, he has had a massive impact on the fans, the players and not least the managment teams, do they even feel secure?

The culture of the club has changed there is no unity - this is an MM legacy!

Last year when we we're in the shit the fans finally stood up to be counted part way through the Brum game because they knew no onne else was going to do anything, now many sit around waiting for the next loanee/striker to save us.

Certain players SHOULD be performing week in week out.

They are seasoned pros and have 'allegedy' done it at other clubs.

The chairman should not be an excuse for their own failings and inadequate performances.

No unity-This has been going on long before MM came here.

Who was the last player most of the fans looked upto and admired?

There hasnt been an iconic figure at the club for years now.

Surely players should be unified as a team and not look at the Chairman to help unify them?

I know who i blame mostly for the shit we are in at the moment.

Still they are on good contracts so im sure they sleep well at night.

[Dr The Singh]

Certain players SHOULD be performing week in week out.

They are seasoned pros and have 'allegedy' done it at other clubs.

The chairman should not be an excuse for their own failings and inadequate performances.

No unity-This has been going on long before MM came here.

Who was the last player most of the fans looked upto and admired?

There hasnt been an iconic figure at the club for years now.

Surely players should be unified as a team and not look at the Chairman to help unify them?

I know who i blame mostly for the shit we are in at the moment.

Still they are on good contracts so im sure they sleep well at night.

Give a few grand a week, and i'll unify with anybody, even you Raj!!!!

[Raj]

Give a few grand a week, and i'll unify with anybody, even you Raj!!!!

[Zingari]

i'm disappointed with him ,

he hasn't introduced Serbian turbo-folk music at the WS yet

[davieG]

Certain players SHOULD be performing week in week out.

I wasn't excusing them

They are seasoned pros and have 'allegedy' done it at other clubs.

Agreed

The chairman should not be an excuse for their own failings and inadequate performances.

I wasn't saying he was entirely responsibly but that he was not without blame

No unity-This has been going on long before MM came here.

Yes but then we didn't have the 'financial backing' that should have eradicated disunity

Who was the last player most of the fans looked upto and admired?

Again we didn't have the money that this season has seen to recruit

There hasnt been an iconic figure at the club for years now.

Agreed

Surely players should be unified as a team and not look at the Chairman to help unify them?

Not if there is disunity, mistrust and uncertainty amongst the leadership

I know who i blame mostly for the shit we are in at the moment.

I think the blame can be laid at the feet of the Chairman, the managers and the players how it is split/prportioned is irrelevant to me

Still they are on good contracts so im sure they sleep well at night.

I wish they would they might more awake then when a game is in progress

[Chrysalis]

With all due respect what the f**k do the Foxes Trust know to be able to make such statements and also do you really think we are where we are because of bad luck?

Luck has played a part yes, take our recent game against the table toppers their manager admitted they got the point on sheer luck and luck goes your way when its least needed.