Milan Mandaric

[davieG]

Well i think many of you know what i think about this senile fool.

I look back to 12 months ago to what was said and the whole takeover situation happenig at the time. But one year on, and now I feel like i've been raped and been left laying naked on the pavement covered in my own filth. This is the effect Mandaric has had on me so far, and it could get worse still.

So par for the course for your typical saturday night out then!

[AyewJoking]

He got us the Jako deal. If you're going to go down, you may as well go down looking the dogs.

[Master Fox]

So par for the course for your typical saturday night out then!

Well no, Davie G.

Contra to belief, I prefer to spend my evenings (most of the time) in a civilised manner. But the fact you’ve taken this warped view upon myself, leaves me feeling rather saddened if i'm honest.

[davieG]

Well no, Davie G.

Contra to belief, I prefer to spend my evenings (most of the time) in a civilised manner. But the fact you've taken this warped view upon myself, leaves me feeling rather saddened if i'm honest.

[Master Fox]

I can't stay mad at you,

One love, LCFC!

[davieG]

I can't stay mad at you,

One love, LCFC!

[Bryn]

I have to admit it is hard to understand how he's managed to make so much money in his life... you imagine successful businessmen as sharp, ruthless, good judges of character... and yet every decision he has had to make has gone tits up.

[Daggers]

Contra to belief, I prefer to spend my evenings (most of the time) in a civilised manner. But the fact you’ve taken this warped view upon myself, leaves me feeling rather saddened if i'm honest.

Lies.

[Master Fox]

Lies.

There's just not enought dogging around here.

[Zingari]

MM is a jolly good guy , and when the medication kicks in he'll start pulling it all round

[Chrysalis]

I believe the foxes trust confirmed without MM relegation was certian admin and even not relegated it was possible and we would have had to sell the likes of kisnorbo and stearman, to say we would have been better of is unreal. There is a lot of luck in football and we have had next to none recently.

[James.]

I believe the foxes trust confirmed without MM relegation was certian admin and even not relegated it was possible and we would have had to sell the likes of kisnorbo and stearman, to say we would have been better of is unreal. There is a lot of luck in football and we have had next to none recently.

With all due respect what the f**k do the Foxes Trust know to be able to make such statements and also do you really think we are where we are because of bad luck?

[Foxes_Trust]

OK, I am a bit thick - it comes from living so close to Spaghetti Junction, but will someone please point out to me exactly what Mandaric has done since coming to this club that has in any way benefited us because I am fucked if I can think of anything apart from being able to pay for season tickets over 6 months, interest free?

Anyone?

That was an idea put together pre Mandaric...............

.. so watch out for what happens on this one this summer!!

[Foxes_Trust]

I believe the foxes trust confirmed without MM relegation was certian admin and even not relegated it was possible and we would have had to sell the likes of kisnorbo and stearman, to say we would have been better of is unreal. There is a lot of luck in football and we have had next to none recently.

We never stated that we would have gone into administration had the MM takeover not happened, but the club was getting close to its agreed overdraft limit so action would have to have been taken.

The club made a significant loss up to year end 31st May 2007 & it is true that certainly 2-3 players who would generate the best transfer fee would have to have been sold.

Also don't forget another effort to raise additional funds was being worked on, and while this would have been less than MM put in, it would have kept the club going. The groundshare with Tigers was also a potential alternative.

With all due respect what the f**k do the Foxes Trust know to be able to make such statements and also do you really think we are where we are because of bad luck?

Because we had monthly financial updates from the club (as did all shareholders)

[Daggers]

.. so watch out for what happens on this one this summer!!

The only idea that could be a runner now is one that involves tickets being given away for a drastically reduced price - no one is going to swallow this shit again.

Mandaric lied. No, that's not fair - he was disingenuous, in respect that he over-sold his abilities to those of us gullible enough to grasp onto the hope that he was offering. I feel like I have just had unsatisfying sex with a cheap slut.

Err...whatever that would feel like because I am sure I do not really know.

[Finnegan]

Originally posted this in the songs thread.

American Idiot?

With the exception of Martin Allen, what has he ACTUALLY done wrong?

I was arguing about this today with my old man (who doesn't like him, either) and the thing that irritated him the most was losing out on Fulop. But could we really afford to fork out the millions Keano wanted? And is a goalkeeper the highest of our concerns atm? So he might not have as much money as everyone wants him to have, but other than that how much exactly is his fault?

He just seems like the easiest person to blame, to me. It's the managers that have to buy the players, motivate the teams and pick the tactics. He's only actually sacked one manager this season and to be honest I'd much, much rather have Holloway than Allen. I'd say the fact Allen's done fook all since his removal, and that nearly all of his signings were total toss, sort of justifies the decision to be rid of him. And that's really the biggest thing Mandaric has done this season, surely?

[Webbo]

The only idea that could be a runner now is one that involves tickets being given away for a drastically reduced price - no one is going to swallow this shit again.

Mandaric lied. No, that's not fair - he was disingenuous, in respect that he over-sold his abilities to those of us gullible enough to grasp onto the hope that he was offering. I feel like I have just had unsatisfying sex with a cheap slut.

Err...whatever that would feel like because I am sure I do not really know.

You said you wouldn't tell.

[Webbo]

Originally posted this in the songs thread.

With the exception of Martin Allen, what has he ACTUALLY done wrong?

I was arguing about this today with my old man (who doesn't like him, either) and the thing that irritated him the most was losing out on Fulop. But could we really afford to fork out the millions Keano wanted? And is a goalkeeper the highest of our concerns atm? So he might not have as much money as everyone wants him to have, but other than that how much exactly is his fault?

He just seems like the easiest person to blame, to me. It's the managers that have to buy the players, motivate the teams and pick the tactics. He's only actually sacked one manager this season and to be honest I'd much, much rather have Holloway than Allen. I'd say the fact Allen's done fook all since his removal, and that nearly all of his signings were total toss, sort of justifies the decision to be rid of him. And that's really the biggest thing Mandaric has done this season, surely?

That's assuming that Allen really wanted to sign all those players. I suspect that a lot of those MM signed himself.

The continued inclusion of Hume in the team when Ollie clearly doesn't rate him makes me wonder if MM is forcing his inclusion.

[FNQ]

we would have been fooked without him. if were in this shit with millions of pounds to spend, imagine the shit we would be in without any funds. Mark De Vries leading the line for starters! he has done everything in his power for the best of this club.

[Webbo]

we would have been fooked without him. if were in this shit with millions of pounds to spend, imagine the shit we would be in without any funds. Mark De Vries leading the line for starters! he has done everything in his power for the best of this club.

You can want the best for the club and still be an incompetent twat.

[Finnegan]

That's assuming that Allen really wanted to sign all those players. I suspect that a lot of those MM signed himself.

The continued inclusion of Hume in the team when Ollie clearly doesn't rate him makes me wonder if MM is forcing his inclusion.

I've only heard Holloway say good things about Hume. Likewise Allen, both applaud his effort and heart. I'm sure both acknowledge the fact there are better players out there, but then - like I said - it's not like we have ENDLESS resources and there were bigger holes to patch up in the side when Holloway got here (like, the absence of a midfield.)

I can't see Holloway being the sort of manager that'd let his chairman pick the team and stay quiet about it, tbh. And I imagine Mandaric's scouts/advisers had a hand in some of our signings - but if he had anything to do with Oakley or Howard then we shouldn't be moaning. Again, they're proven players at this level - the fact they aren't performing isn't the chairman's fault.

[Daggers]

With the exception of Martin Allen, what has he ACTUALLY done wrong?

S'cuse me a bit, I am a tad drunk while constructing this reply: I hold the man in charge responsible for anything that goes wrong under his charge.

MM appointed the managers - [Last season] The manager should have been sacked upon commencing the job but was tolerated rather than acting on the opinion of others. The replacement did enough to be offered the contract but was...err...not mentioned in any form from the minute the last match finished despite proving himself to be a match for any of the idiots yet to come. [This season] The first was (according to him) a bit of a ****nut. The second was not tied to a contract while the third seems to be exactly the same as the first. All told, appalling management by the Serbo-Yankee.

MM appointed the coaching staff and the DOF - They ****ed him and the club over with the parade of signings that have now been shipped out. They lasted less time than a 16yr old with a prostitute in Amsterdam's red light district.

MM signed off on players unfit to grace a Sunday morning park's team - he has acted like a child in front of FM08...only it is our club he is dicking over.

MM has not invested in the club - this may not be true, but I bet anything that he has not spent money on all of this bullshit this season. It will be us left footing the bill for his sublime idiocy when he's gone.

I don't know how much I am allowed to say about the kit, so I won't...but he f~cked that up too.

An organisation runs as an extension to its leading figure - we continue to be a shambolic excuse for a football club and (ultimately) only one person can take the foot for that - MM.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what he has done to benefit this club?

[LeeCovFox]

S'cuse me a bit, I am a tad drunk while constructing this reply: I hold the man in charge responsible for anything that goes wrong under his charge.

MM appointed the managers - [Last season] The manager should have been sacked upon commencing the job but was tolerated rather than acting on the opinion of others. The replacement did enough to be offered the contract but was...err...not mentioned in any form from the minute the last match finished despite proving himself to be a match for any of the idiots yet to come. [This season] The first was (according to him) a bit of a ****nut. The second was not tied to a contract while the third seems to be exactly the same as the first. All told, appalling management by the Serbo-Yankee.

MM appointed the coaching staff and the DOF - They ****ed him and the club over with the parade of signings that have now been shipped out. They lasted less time than a 16yr old with a prostitute in Amsterdam's red light district.

MM signed off on players unfit to grace a Sunday morning park's team - he has acted like a child in front of FM08...only it is our club he is dicking over.

MM has not invested in the club - this may not be true, but I bet anything that he has not spent money on all of this bullshit this season. It will be us left footing the bill for his sublime idiocy when he's gone.

I don't know how much I am allowed to say about the kit, so I won't...but he f~cked that up too.

An organisation runs as an extension to its leading figure - we continue to be a shambolic excuse for a football club and (ultimately) only one person can take the foot for that - MM.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what he has done to benefit this club?

[Finnegan]

I think he invested a lot of trust in Martin Allen and his signings, and I think that was massively unwise. But since then I just don't see what's been so catastrophic about his ownership of the club.

He told Holloway he could have money for a play off push if Holloway could show signs of improvement, he didn't. Mandaric was good to his word and restricted his spending (likely expecting another mid-table finish and writing off the season.) I think Holloway's a good appointment, I still do, I think Plymouth's current league position is testament to what Ian Holloway can create at a football club and I think you'd have to be retarded to see otherwise. He's been allowed to bring his chief scout, who was likely instrumental to his success, with him as well as his assistants.

Even though the pressure seems to have gotten to Ollie, you can't predict something like that. You'd look at Holloway's track record and - if I were chairman - I'd have had the same expectations I suspect Mandaric would have, at the time. And that was "this man can build a team." It hasn't happened, admittedly, but I don't think - again - you can blame Mandaric necessarily for the fact that we've plunged even further towards danger.

I don't think we'll go down. And I hope Holloway will stay, and I hope he'll prove me right (I guess in the back of our hearts, we all do) but even if he doesn't I just think branding Mandaric an incompetent idiot is huge sensationalism and the product of high emotions at the club and understandable disappointment. Yes, it's rather obvious he isn't going to be the Messiah we wanted - yes, it does look like the three-year plan was a more realistic goal than the support's own "Yay, we have Allen, we're going up now!" bollocks and yes Mandaric has made a couple of goofs. But American Idiot? I thought you were a sharper tool than that, Daggers, tbh. This is the sort of simplified ranting I'd expect from Ultra.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what he has done to benefit this club?

That's just obtuse. He has money. We didn't. Again, whether he has as much as we want him to have or whether he's used it wisely / at all is another matter, but we're much more financially secure while he has the deeds than we were before.

[Daggers]

Seriously.

The man makes dreadful decision after dreadful decision - how the **** has he earned any money at all?

I make those kind of decisions on a daily basis which is why I am a dishevelled tramp scratching my crotch in the gutter...and yet he gets to run a ****ing club into the ground.

When is it my turn?