fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 No one has any history with them...that is the point. But whats with the anamosity towards them?
Daggers Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 But whats with the anamosity towards them? Do some research about Franchise FC
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Do some research about Franchise FC I know who they are and where they are from...but you seem to be avoiding my question! Where does YOUR anamosity come from towards them?
Jimmy Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 I know who they are and where they are from...but you seem to be avoiding my question!Where does YOUR anamosity come from towards them? put yourself in the position that Wimbledon fans were, their club moved hundreds of miles because the chairman thought he could make more money in another city ... this isn't America we don't move clubs across the country, we start from scratch and build them up the proper way
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 put yourself in the position that Wimbledon fans were, their club moved hundreds of miles because the chairman thought he could make more money in another city ...this isn't America we don't move clubs across the country, we start from scratch and build them up the proper way and whats that got to do with us, if MM thought the same he would do it! Your missing the point of the question!
Daggers Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 I know who they are and where they are from...but you seem to be avoiding my question!Where does YOUR anamosity come from towards them? The only thing I'm avoiding is being boring by repeating the obvious - I put my reasons in quite a forthright fashion in the General Sport forum thread where we debated them. If you are that interested then you can always do a search in that section.
oldbluefox Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 put yourself in the position that Wimbledon fans were, their club moved hundreds of miles because the chairman thought he could make more money in another city ...this isn't America we don't move clubs across the country, we start from scratch and build them up the proper way I don't see what that has to do with the supporters. Like us they have no say in the matter so I don't see why we have any animosity towards them. There are several black periods in our history which we had no part in so why should we have to carry the can for them?
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 The only thing I'm avoiding is being boring by repeating the obvious - I put my reasons in quite a forthright fashion in the General Sport forum thread where we debated them. If you are that interested then you can always do a search in that section. Then surely you should have posted **** you Franchise! You just lost your manager again. in that thread if you wasn't expecting a debate about it here!?
Daggers Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Then surely you should have posted in that thread if you wasn't expecting a debate about it here!? Sure. Very good point. I totally agree. Well argued.
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Sure. Very good point. I totally agree. Well argued. Like the lack of reasoning for your post
Jimmy Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 and whats that got to do with us, if MM thought the same he would do it!Your missing the point of the question! no I'm not, in situations like that football fans unite as it could happen to anyone and no one wants to imagion life with their club gone ...
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 no I'm not, in situations like that football fans unite as it could happen to anyone and no one wants to imagion life with their club gone ... It wasn't like it was gone, it relocated about 60 miles away, and from what I remember Wimbledon F.C. were in dire straits financially. Rather travel 60 miles than no travel at all, i'm sure Gretna fans would agree!
Jon the Hat Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 It wasn't like it was gone, it relocated about 60 miles away, and from what I remember Wimbledon F.C. were in dire straits financially.Rather travel 60 miles than no travel at all, i'm sure Gretna fans would agree! That I probably the most miguided comment I have ever read on this subject. Wimbledon FC did not move to Milton Keynes. It died, and some money and a group of players bought a place in the league instead of earning it like every other team has done in the history of league football in the UK. Dons Fans have suffered exactly the same fate as Gretna fans. A football club is not the name, it is not the players, the manager or the transient owners. It is not the stadium. It is the fans, the history, the shared pain and joy. It is the respect from rivals that wherever you are it is becuase you played to get there. It is in short, everything that MK Dons does not have, and never will, becuase of the way it began.
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 That I probably the most miguided comment I have ever read on this subject. Wimbledon FC did not move to Milton Keynes. It died, and some money and a group of players bought a place in the league instead of earning it like every other team has done in the history of league football in the UK. Dons Fans have suffered exactly the same fate as Gretna fans. A football club is not the name, it is not the players, the manager or the transient owners. It is not the stadium. It is the fans, the history, the shared pain and joy. It is the respect from rivals that wherever you are it is becuase you played to get there. It is in short, everything that MK Dons does not have, and never will, becuase of the way it began. If their was no name or no stadium there would be no history! rather a sunday morning kick about with coats and bags for goals forgotten the next week.
Asha Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 If their was no name or no stadium there would be no history! rather a sunday morning kick about with coats and bags for goals forgotten the next week. Yes there would. Many people here are part of Sunday leagues. It gives history, memories etc. They don't have a stadium, and it matters not what the team is called. Memories from Filbert Street never include the size of the seats, the capacity, the amount of pillars blocking the view - it's about the atmosphere, the memories. As Jon the Hat said, the club is all about the fans.
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Yes there would.Many people here are part of Sunday leagues. It gives history, memories etc. They don't have a stadium, and it matters not what the team is called. Memories from Filbert Street never include the size of the seats, the capacity, the amount of pillars blocking the view - it's about the atmosphere, the memories. As Jon the Hat said, the club is all about the fans. I'm sure Sunday league fans remember the game 2 weeks prior, after gravy and chips and copeless amounts of lager in their local!
Asha Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 My view on MK Dons is basically very similar to that Daggers' described. And I honestly can't be fcuked to repeat. Basically, they bought their way into the league. No tradition, no memories. It's not a local Milton Keynes club, it's a team bought and placed there because of the size and lack of current football league team there.
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 My view on MK Dons is basically very similar to that Daggers' described. And I honestly can't be fcuked to repeat.Basically, they bought their way into the league. No tradition, no memories. It's not a local Milton Keynes club, it's a team bought and placed there because of the size and lack of current football league team there. Fookin hell you only had to say! But that still doesn't tell me why there is that much anamosity to a club that there is no reason to have anamosity against... But hey ho, fook it each to their own I guess!
C-man Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Fookin hell you only had to say!But that still doesn't tell me why there is that much anamosity to a club that there is no reason to have anamosity against... But hey ho, fook it each to their own I guess! Here's a reason to dislike them that is connected to us: - Their chairman could have rejected the approach for Ince immediately, but waited over a week to reject it when we could have spent that time looking for a new manager. Plus there's the obvious reasons to dislike them. Like, they're not Leicester for a start.
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Here's a reason to dislike them that is connected to us:- Their chairman could have rejected the approach for Ince immediately, but waited over a week to reject it when we could have spent that time looking for a new manager. Plus there's the obvious reasons to dislike them. Like, they're not Leicester for a start. Erm yea good reason! From what has been said I think it was Ince dragging heals (because of the Blackburn situation) not their chariman, but maybe Leeds could really hate us because O'Neill refused to speak to them!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Why has it got to have anything to do with Leicester anyway?
fox123 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Why has it got to have anything to do with Leicester anyway? That is what I am trying to find out!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 That is what I am trying to find out! No. My question to you is why you think any dislike of MK Dons has to have anything to do with Leicester? I don't like them as a club but it's not particularly linked to Leicester in any way.
Sparky Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 Why has it got to have anything to do with Leicester anyway? Fook all , we got enough problems of our own without worrying about anyone elses When the whole "franchise" came along i did feel for the Wimbledon fan but times moved on now and not being a fan myself it does not concern me anymore . I do wish AFC Wimbledon all the best and hope they eventually get in to the league but i have no hate for the MK Dons
coale39 Posted 22 June 2008 Posted 22 June 2008 But that still doesn't tell me why there is that much anamosity to a club that there is no reason to have anamosity against... The reason is in NSLL's post Basically, they bought their way into the league. No tradition, no memories. It's not a local Milton Keynes club, it's a team bought and placed there because of the size and lack of current football league team there. Its not just us as Leicester fans that feel anamosity towards them, loads of other football clubs fans hate them as well. It signifies the increasing importance of money in todays footballing world over traditional values. They are a made up club and bought their position in the league. Its just a business. They saw a potential gap in the market and have exploited it. If you dont understand why people dislike them then.. well.. you need to think it through more. As a further note, I dont dislike the fans of MKDons as such. Most are prob just supporting their local team now.
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