Candidcamera Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Fryatt is a star in this league. He deserves his chance and I think he will apprecaiate this style of play. Gradel in particular seems to have struck up a good understanding with Fryatt. He is an intelligent player. He interviews very impressively on TV. I really think he has not been given a chance until now. This will be his season.
Mickey O'Neil Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Most of ye are talking shite. It's a new Leicester City, new manager, new everything. Last season doesn't count. FACT. It's all about now...the new era. Nigel wouldn't let him be complacent if/when he offers a new contract to Matty. Nothing is guaranteed in football, but I believe Matty would score goals in the Championship under NP if we go up.
Thracian Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 They haven't got an awful lot to work with at the moment. I was sceptical of him and Howard as a partnership but the key to its success has been Lloyd Dyer in my opinion. Dyer is always looking to break beyond the opposition defence, perfect example being his second goal at Cheltenham. This gives opposing defenders an extra man to worry about and our counter-attacking this season has been a joy to behold. I expect the same of Gradel given time.Fryatt's goal last night was another good example of why he will score more goals this season. Our team as a whole is so much better man-for-man than any other in this division that he can afford to wander into the six-yard box for a tap-in like that whereas in the Championship our misfiring midfield meant he had to do vast amounts of work outside the area. He looks like a player full of confidence and even when he misses a couple of chances, he knows there will another along soon. Gradel does the same and both King and Oakley are joining in the drive for the final third. Howard now has people he can feed the ball on to, everyone who hits the box has good reason to expect a cross or a pass and suddenly it's no surprise that the strikers are in a feeding frenzy and others are picking up titbits. I have no doubt that the likes of Fryatt and Howard are fitter and more inspired anyway but they never got anything like the service they're getting now, not just from Dyer but from all over the place. What's even more exciting is that this team can get better in various ways.
Simi Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I expect the Fryatt police to turn up shortly. I take it you're reffering to me, why take the eye rolling out in the original post by the way? I've critisised Fryatt a lot, mainly for last season. He was nothing short of an embarrasment and the love he got in my view was unacceptable, compared to the likes of Howard and how he was treated. That was my main gripe with him, this season he has scored goals. In my eyes, not a lot more. But who can complain about that? He still has a lot of work to do on his general football, but he's scoring goals and deserves his place. If the goals dry up though at some point, I hope Pearson isn't afraid to drop him.
Alexikokopops Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I've critisised Fryatt a lot, mainly for last season. He was nothing short of an embarrasment and the love he got in my view was unacceptable, compared to the likes of Howard and how he was treated. This was my main gripe with him. I'm happy he's scoring goals and I feel he deserves the plaudits. Last season though he had his chances and didn't take them (3 goals in 35 games), yet people still made excuses while slating Howard (6 in 22) and DJ Campbell (5 in 34). Anyway, he appears to have got some confidence back and is making the most of the opposition and I'm happy.
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I thought you lot thought he was rubbish
Joe. Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I thought you lot thought he was rubbish Nope, just me and Ched now by the looks of things. Quite funny isn't it?
JakeShingler Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Good start as he should be in this division.But i certainly won't forget the season after season of shit with him, awful open goal misses, lazy fooker attitude useless tosser, we had that for over 3 seasons. He will be back to the same old useless fat lazy bastard when we get back to the Championship though. He's certainly helping my league 1 fantasy football team a bit. Where did you make this?
Tilley Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Offer him a new contract, before bigger clubs come sniffing. Great start by Fryatt.
lildave3 Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Nope, just me and Ched now by the looks of things. Quite funny isn't it? *cough*
Alexikokopops Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 This was my main gripe with him. I'm happy he's scoring goals and I feel he deserves the plaudits. Last season though he had his chances and didn't take them (3 goals in 35 games), yet people still made excuses while slating Howard (6 in 22) and DJ Campbell (5 in 34).Anyway, he appears to have got some confidence back and is making the most of the opposition and I'm happy. Nope, just me and Ched now by the looks of things. Quite funny isn't it? Erm, me too. And he was rubbish at Championship level.
Corky Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 Well done to young Matthew, he's obviously put the effort in over the summer and it's paying off now.
James. Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I take it you're reffering to me, why take the eye rolling out in the original post by the way? I've been really liking the rolling eyes smilie recently. But then I thought the phrase "Fryatt police" summed up things better. In any case it wasn't me rolling my eyes at Fryatt haters, check the post Fez replied to again and you'll see. Anyway. I wasn't particularly referring to you. To be perfectly honest it was more aimed at Joe after he thought we should drop Fryatt for the Cheltenham game. As I pointed out in that thread the mockery of people defending Fryatt got taken to such an extreme that the Fryatt haters became just as bad as the Fryatt lovers and were unable to acknowledge when he does play well. In any case I'm not thinking about last season. As far as I'm concerned it's a clean slate and all that. Mis-management, lack of fitness, poor service and a generally shambolic team were all factors in Fryatt's admittedly abysmal scoring record last season. But on the evidence so far it looks to me like ALL those factors have been addressed (thank you Pearson) and as a result we see the real Fryatt.
Simi Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I've been really liking the rolling eyes smilie recently. But then I thought the phrase "Fryatt police" summed up things better. In any case it wasn't me rolling my eyes at Fryatt haters, check the post Fez replied to again and you'll see.Anyway. I wasn't particularly referring to you. To be perfectly honest it was more aimed at Joe after he thought we should drop Fryatt for the Cheltenham game. As I pointed out in that thread the mockery of people defending Fryatt got taken to such an extreme that the Fryatt haters became just as bad as the Fryatt lovers and were unable to acknowledge when he does play well. In any case I'm not thinking about last season. As far as I'm concerned it's a clean slate and all that. Mis-management, lack of fitness, poor service and a generally shambolic team were all factors in Fryatt's admittedly abysmal scoring record last season. But on the evidence so far it looks to me like ALL those factors have been addressed (thank you Pearson) and as a result we see the real Fryatt. I don't think I'd ever drop a striker if he was scoring goals, regardless of how he was playing, I really don't think it'd make sense. I have praised Fryatt this season, he's deserved it for the goals he's scored. But I won't stretch as far as other people who are hailing him the next big thing and all that. Fact is, his performances have not been great compared to other members of the squad. Like I said in the previous post, if the goals dry up, I think he'll struggle. Because he doesn't offer a great deal more. You're right about the haters/lovers malarky. But surely even you could agree that the praise he got last season was unwarranted? A lot of fans carried on there vendetta against Howard despite improving and refused to praise. I've realised Fryatt has improved and I've acknowlegded that, but I won't go back on what I said last season.
James. Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I don't think I'd ever drop a striker if he was scoring goals, regardless of how he was playing, I really don't think it'd make sense.I have praised Fryatt this season, he's deserved it for the goals he's scored. But I won't stretch as far as other people who are hailing him the next big thing and all that. Fact is, his performances have not been great compared to other members of the squad. Like I said in the previous post, if the goals dry up, I think he'll struggle. Because he doesn't offer a great deal more. You're right about the haters/lovers malarky. But surely even you could agree that the praise he got last season was unwarranted? A lot of fans carried on there vendetta against Howard despite improving and refused to praise. I've realised Fryatt has improved and I've acknowlegded that, but I won't go back on what I said last season. Fair enough. Although I do think that many of the players got unnecessary stick last season. May seem like a strange thing to say and they'll be many on here who strongly disagree but in my opinion many of the players (Fryatt and Howard) were victims of poor management and a lack of stability. I would rather focus any blame for last season on the efforts of our owner and various managers. Can you really expect players to perform well under the circumstances they were in from the beginning of the season to the end? But that's history and that's probably my point really. What was said and done last season is in the past and we are now seeing a very exciting team performing well under what would appear to be our best manager for quite some time. Fryatt and Howard are showing what they can do in the right environment and, as you'll obviously agree, long may it continue.
Joe. Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 I think Ched's pretty much summed up my feelings on him too. My feelings for Fryatt were blown way out of proportion in that thread last week, and it got to the stage where people must have thought I hated the guy, which is completely untrue. I was merely suggesting an alternative to Fryatt who I didn't think was playing particularly well at the time, and after Dickov's performance against Fulham up front with Howard I thought it would be worth a try. But anyway, that's been and gone, enough of that rubbish. Most of my feelings about Fryatt are the same as Ched's; we both extremely dislike the way Fryatt's been idolised by our own fans in recent times despite poor performances (yes, I'm going back to last season I know). I will continue to mock this, quite probably forever. I wil also say this again - Fryatt deserves praise for this season so far. He's done very well to establish himself in the first team, has formed an excellent partnership with Howard, and he's found the goals so far. Can he keep it up? I honestly think so.
LeeCovFox Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 One would argue that Fryatt has probably found his level. I'm not sure about that. I would say that he has found confidence, and a manager who appreciates the importance of goalscoring. An awful lot of goalscoring is confidence based. Of course, movement and technique are essential, but Fryatt has proven that he is a capable finisher, even if he does lack composure at times. The goal is the same size whatever level of football you are playing. I always felt for Ade Akinbiyi for similar reasons. He had proven that even in a poor team he could score goals at a lower level, and he was capable of getting into goalscoring positions in the Premier League, which he proved many times for City. I can only think that confidence was the issue for him, and I think the same can be said of Fryatt, along of course with other factors. It may have had a substantial effect on his form in the second tier.
lildave3 Posted 3 September 2008 Posted 3 September 2008 NDAH! Good god! He's changed a bit since his Wolves days...
Manwell Pablo Posted 4 September 2008 Posted 4 September 2008 I'm not sure about that. I would say that he has found confidence, and a manager who appreciates the importance of goalscoring. An awful lot of goalscoring is confidence based. Of course, movement and technique are essential, but Fryatt has proven that he is a capable finisher, even if he does lack composure at times. The goal is the same size whatever level of football you are playing. I always felt for Ade Akinbiyi for similar reasons. He had proven that even in a poor team he could score goals at a lower level, and he was capable of getting into goalscoring positions in the Premier League, which he proved many times for City. I can only think that confidence was the issue for him, and I think the same can be said of Fryatt, along of course with other factors. It may have had a substantial effect on his form in the second tier. Fryatts more than good enough to play at Championship level if put in a side that can create chances. As shown when he was in our awfull Levein team which didn't create much, but still managed to create more than Milans dream team last season. He missed some sitters last season but when your waiting for a chance all game and you get one, scoreing it is not easy, it's something top class strikers are renound and I might rate Fryatt but I'll admit he's not top class. Anyway, great start hope he keeps it up.
clazkel Posted 4 September 2008 Posted 4 September 2008 This was my main gripe with him. I'm happy he's scoring goals and I feel he deserves the plaudits. Last season though he had his chances and didn't take them (3 goals in 35 games), yet people still made excuses while slating Howard (6 in 22) and DJ Campbell (5 in 34).Anyway, he appears to have got some confidence back and is making the most of the opposition and I'm happy. But you need to remember that Howard was played up front in all his games, Fryatt was on the wing for quite afew games under Holloway. At least Howard had a settled position and wasn't in and out of the team. Megson stuck with Fryatt last season for afew games and played him up front and he was starting to show he deserved a place in team and Holloway came in and he was dropped or played on the wing. Now he is in his best position he is running through defences, no end of times against Cheltenham he made great runs and ran thro there defence (granted he should've done done better in front of goal and not caught off-side as many times, but at least he's making the runs and looking positive), he's a clever footballer and gets in great positions and makes decent runs and gives options for the other players. Alittle more confidence in front of goal and i think he could score at least 20 goals this season.
Crowfeathers Posted 4 September 2008 Posted 4 September 2008 * First post. People seem to have forgotten that last year Fryatt was treated appallingly in pre-season by Martin Allen and I'm sure that that had no little effect on his confidence.
ScubaBlue Posted 4 September 2008 Posted 4 September 2008 I agree with Crowfeathers. Last season was a non-starter for Fryatt, he was teated badly last season. (How would you feel if Barry friggin Hayles was getting the nod in front of you). His confidence was shot and he wasn't playing regularly and put some pounds on... his sharpness went... and the rest is history. This season though it seems like him (and howard, who I hated last season) have come back after the summer with a point to prove. Both seem to have lost weight, got their sharpness and confidence back and are forging a great partnership. I think given the chance they are both good Championship strikers. Last season was a nightmare... lets forget it, and move on. With Howard and Fryatt both on target for 15-20 goals this season, we're gonna get promoted (if it continues, fingers crossed). And Pearson's the man to make sure it does. Once we're back in the championship after a confidence building season in league one... you'll see a different Leicester City FC.
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