davieG Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 From the Merc. Leicester City chief executive Lee Hoos has admitted that the club faces challenging economic times ahead as the credit crunch bites. Although the table-toppers are attracting League One gates around the 17,000 mark, Hoos insisted the club has to tackle head-on any damaging effects of the recession. However, Hoos has ruled out ticket price-cuts on a massive scale, and says any future initiatives would have to be "in the best interests of our season-ticket holders". Hoos said: "It is not simply a case of going out there and selling all tickets for a fiver. We may have a big crowd but the fact is that the revenue stream actually reduces. "That means less money to work with, and less money to pay players. What is Milan (Mandaric) supposed to do then, just keep pumping money in forever and ever? That's not a good standard of business." Hoos said the fans' perspective on this is wanting good players capable of winning football matches - and cheap tickets. The club's job is to balance the needs of both parties, he added. "Good players tend to cost money so you need revenue streams coming in - we cannot rely on Milan for everything," said Hoos. "What we are striving to do is to bring in players at reasonable value, and I think we've done a pretty good job at that." The 47-year-old American, who held similar senior management roles at Fulham and Southampton before arriving at Leicester in June this year, said the club is looking at a "number of things" and did not rule out further opportunities for season-ticket holders to purchase additional tickets at reduced rates. "The two games when we did this against Crewe and Yeovil proved to be successful promotions," said Hoos. "We did our projected forecasts and the numbers which came in were actually up on what we thought." Hoos said the club needs to be sympathetic towards the fans as the recession deepens, but says the feeling has to be mutual if City want to retain their best players. He said: "One way to balance the books is to sell a bunch of players, but then the quality on the pitch goes down. We want to retain our better players because what we are hoping to achieve is getting into the Championship next season, staking our case early doors and then looking to improve from there. "The ultimate aim, of course, remains the Premier League." Hoos has also expressed his irritation at being unable to offer further ticket price discounts for City's FA Cup ties against Stevenage Borough and Dagenham & Redbridge. The Football Association had to intervene when the two clubs failed to reach agreement. City wanted to charge season-ticket holders £10, and £15 for non season-ticket holders. Their opponents wanted them to charge more, and the figure was eventually set by the FA at £15 for all adults. Hoos said: "We told the clubs that our season-ticket holders need to feel valued and you do that with a lower price, but they didn't buy into that message. "A reduction to £10 would have helped attendances and enabled us to recognise their commitment to the club. The £10 became £15 because the FA have something to say and they don't want the competition devalued." This week, City also announced they were donating the VAT savings on future ticket sales to charity - a move which has been welcomed by fans' groups. Hoos may be the key player off the field at the Walkers Stadium, but he has also assessed how things are going on the pitch. He said: "We don't give up as a team and get the rewards. If we can match the level of play that we showed in the win at S****horpe, then we will be fine."
dandannieldanok Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 From the Merc.[/size] However, Hoos has ruled out ticket price-cuts on a massive scale, and says any future initiatives would have to be "in the best interests of our season-ticket holders". Why not in the best interests of every fan, not just season-ticket holders? Again the club continue to vilify those fans that don't have season tickets.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 Why not in the best interests of every fan, not just season-ticket holders? Again the club continue to vilify those fans that don't have season tickets. Because season ticket holders are the ones the club value the most because they spend the most
Babylon Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 In other words... "don't moan when we flog some of our players in January." Thanks for the heads up Lee.
Daggers Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 Why not in the best interests of every fan, not just season-ticket holders? Again the club continue to vilify those fans that don't have season tickets. Zzzzz.... I seem to be seeing this post in every thread. Rewarding those who stump up their money in May every year is not vilifying other supporters. Have a word with yourself, do you even know the meaning of the word?
Corky Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 Why not in the best interests of every fan, not just season-ticket holders? Again the club continue to vilify those fans that don't have season tickets. You are right. As a season-ticket holder I'm no more of a fan than anyone else. I'm not going to complain if people are getting tickets cheaply. I'd rather have 27,000 every week, so if cheaper tickets were the answer then so be it. Reduction in ticket prices needs a trial run, for one match. If our attendaces go up by around 5,000, then try it again, and see what happens. If it is successful again, then permanently reduce the prices. I can see where the club are coming from though, if it was guaranteed that more people would come through the gate and would make up the difference then I'm sure they'd do it, but honestly, is it guaranteed?
dandannieldanok Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 Zzzzz....I seem to be seeing this post in every thread. Rewarding those who stump up their money in May every year is not vilifying other supporters. Have a word with yourself, do you even know the meaning of the word? Yes I do know the meaning of the word and I stand by what I say. I couldn't give a shite if everyone disagrees with my view because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and it is of my opinion that giving season ticket holders cheaper tickets in cup games is unfair.
20mj08 Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 they will support the season ticket holders beacuse we have payed up for the season and are the most likely to renew them at the end of the season, keeping the income flowing through but i wont complin if there are more offer of cheap tickets as it brings more income and more atmosphere.... sometimes
dandannieldanok Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 they will support the season ticket holders beacuse we have payed up for the season and are the most likely to renew them at the end of the season, keeping the income flowing through but i wont complin if there are more offer of cheap tickets as it brings more income and more atmosphere.... sometimes I appreciate that, I just think they can provide other benefits because as an non-STH the extra £5 just seems a kick-in-teeth.
Daggers Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 I appreciate that, I just think they can provide other benefits because as an non-STH the extra £5 just seems a kick-in-teeth. You really aren't comprehending this are you? You aren't paying £5 more...we are paying £5 less. It's not a tough concept.
MPH Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 In other words... "don't moan when we flog some of our players in January." Thanks for the heads up Lee. yup. Goodbye Matty Fryatt, hello lower league hopeful...
dandannieldanok Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 You really aren't comprehending this are you?You aren't paying £5 more...we are paying £5 less. It's not a tough concept. You're right, you paying £5 less is completely different to me paying £5 more.
Daggers Posted 5 December 2008 Posted 5 December 2008 You're right Well done. You got there in the end, even if it was inadvertantly.
ThorpeAstleyFox Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 You are right. As a season-ticket holder I'm no more of a fan than anyone else. I'm not going to complain if people are getting tickets cheaply. I'd rather have 27,000 every week, so if cheaper tickets were the answer then so be it.Reduction in ticket prices needs a trial run, for one match. If our attendaces go up by around 5,000, then try it again, and see what happens. If it is successful again, then permanently reduce the prices. I can see where the club are coming from though, if it was guaranteed that more people would come through the gate and would make up the difference then I'm sure they'd do it, but honestly, is it guaranteed? Unfortunately you are looking at this as supporter who would like to see a big crowd rather than an accoutant who would like to maximise profits. Selling tickets cheap would ensure a large crowd but would not increase revenue, not to mention the increase in overheads. As a STH I pay £13 per game, which I feel is good value for money (this season at least!). However, I probabley miss around 4 games per season due to work commitments which takes this average price up to just over £15. If the club were to start selling tickets below this price then would I (and many others) bother buying a season ticket next year? I think not.
Phube Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 Unfortunately you are looking at this as supporter who would like to see a big crowd rather than an accoutant who would like to maximise profits. Selling tickets cheap would ensure a large crowd but would not increase revenue, not to mention the increase in overheads. As a STH I pay £13 per game, which I feel is good value for money (this season at least!). However, I probabley miss around 4 games per season due to work commitments which takes this average price up to just over £15. If the club were to start selling tickets below this price then would I (and many others) bother buying a season ticket next year? I think not. You're right... £13 a game is good value... whereas £23 a game, in League 1, certainly isn't!!! Yes I can understand that ST holders need some benefits... (as I was one for 6 years before last season), But as danielanddannock(?) says it seems that us fans who just can't afford ST's at the mo' get unfairly clobbered on prices and as such go to a lot less games than we would like.... (A poultry 1 this season... ) Where are the Kids for a £1 games, where are the everyone pays a tenner games... In fact; where the f*** are the tiered ticket prices... £23 for Leeds and Leyton Orient... In what world is that sensible pricing!?!? I remember when I was an ST holder when the club made offers and a very small, vocal minority (probably on Radio Leicester's Moan-In) used to whinge like buggery if non-ST fans got offers... for one game... which made their ticket cheaper than their ST ticket price... I thought then and still do now: SO?! Get a life you miserable bastard!! It's one or two games a season... you get a cheap price for 23 games.... [/incoherent rant]
Asha Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 where the f*** are the tiered ticket prices... £23 for Leeds and Leyton Orient... In what world is that sensible pricing!?!? To be fair, as we're the greatest football club in the world and are too big for this league, I think every club we play would be classed as the same tier anyway, except maybe Leeds.
davieG Posted 6 December 2008 Author Posted 6 December 2008 To be fair, as we're the greatest football club in the world and are too big for this league, I think every club we play would be classed as the same tier anyway, except maybe Leeds. Leeds tickets should be double = £46, after all two teams too good for this league playing each other. PS I bet it's a crap game.
Phube Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 Leeds tickets should be double = £46, after all two teams too good for this league playing each other. Each half!!!
Tilley Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 Yes I do know the meaning of the word and I stand by what I say. I couldn't give a shite if everyone disagrees with my view because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and it is of my opinion that giving season ticket holders cheaper tickets in cup games is unfair. :laugh:
ronnup Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 Yes I do know the meaning of the word and I stand by what I say. I couldn't give a shite if everyone disagrees with my view because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and it is of my opinion that giving season ticket holders cheaper tickets in cup games is unfair. I have this feeling that you'd be the most vocal supporter of the discount if you had a season ticket. funny. Season ticket holders are the clubs backbone, a reward for this support is admirable. it is very spoilt to see it as a penalty on your part. Better for the club. Not you unfortunately.
Legend_in_blue Posted 6 December 2008 Posted 6 December 2008 It's nice to see us season ticket holders getting some benefit for cup games. Up to now it feels as though my mates have had more out of the season ticket than me (Yeovil, Crewe at home for a tenner) when it comes to one-off ticket price reductions!
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