Kee Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 In society, people tend to focus on the more political arguments such as 'should we recieve less tax' etc... they dont concentrate on the much more important subjects such as IS THE JAFFA CAKE A BISCUIT OR A CAKE!!?!? I guess personally, id have to say cake
marko Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 I don't claim to be a genius but the name is a bit of a give away for me.
Webbo Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 I can see I'm going to have to replace Radio4 on my pre-sets with Takeover Radio.
Libertine Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 It's not a debate though. It's fact. And it's been done to deep didgeridoo.
dandannieldanok Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Biscuits go soft when past their use by date. Cakes go hard when past their use by date. Jaffa cakes go hard when past their use by date. Jaffa cakes are cakes.
Zingari Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?" McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes. Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.
Blue Foxes Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes. Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes. But wouldn't it be easier and quicker to come to a conclusion from watching a youtube video?
Sly Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes. Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes. It's a cake then!!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 I thought "Jaffa Cake" was a modern day band. You know what I mean. Tacky!
Zingari Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 It's a cake then!! In legal terms , yes but i wouldn't be offended if someone put them in a biscuit barrel and offered me one
The Birch Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Never understood why theres ever been a debate over this, surely the clue is in the name.
Zingari Posted 25 May 2009 Posted 25 May 2009 Never understood why theres ever been a debate over this, surely the clue is in the name. yes , just as tinfoil is not made of tin , and cat gut is made from sheep intestines
Alexikokopops Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 I really hate it whenever anyone booms this out in conversation. They tend to think they're being original and witty too. I think I've had this discussion at least four billion times. Grrr.
Darkzzz_ Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 I either don't have intelligent friends or I don't live around people that have these kind of discussions. I have never been involved in this one, Cake for me. How dare you try and suggest otherwise.
Milky Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 If it goes hard it's a cake, and if it goes soft it's a biscuit. Something like that.
lavrentis Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 Which is the bestest flavour then?! Wait? There's different flavour Jaffa cakes?
AoWW Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 Wait? There's different flavour Jaffa cakes? Well it'd be a kinda pointless question if not.
lavrentis Posted 26 May 2009 Posted 26 May 2009 Well it'd be a kinda pointless question if not. *glares*
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