International Footy

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

This is a disgrace. Glad im not argentinian.

Palermo not played since 2000.

Didn't watch last night's game but Martin Palermo is still a quality striker.

[Lillehamring]

English fans opinions are mere echoes of your footie establishment - you are just a load of sheep.

I posted a very thorough piece on this thread explaining exactly why you fail in World Cups and backed it up with quotes and stats from two very important sports science studies. How many replies did it get?

With attitudes like that and your national team's pathetic international record I should have every right to disregard what passes for opinion on this board.

Now take me on you ignorant ****wit...

maybe that's just because it wasn't very interesting, i stopped reading after a paragraph, cause life really is too short.... none of us on here are sports scientists, we just enjoy football for the game and spectacle that it is, maybe that's an english thing, but that's just the way we are....

and besides you can generate all the statistics and psychology you like about penalties and suggest that english players have no education in how to kick a ball, but there are world class players outside of england who, under pressure, emotive, just don't get it right...

is this guy shit, too:

[Radovan's Caravan]

Do I care about that? No.

Did you answer any of my questions? No.

For someone who hates England so much, you know an awful lot about them. I'll never hide from anything, unlike you. You can't even answer five simple questions. Some guy.

So what you are saying in effect is that you agree with my critique of England. I don't see what your problem is.

And please don't tell me that you never hide from anything. It just shows that you have no experience of anything to hide from.

Come down to the Balkans sonny and you'll spend all day with your pants around your ankles...

[Radovan's Caravan]

maybe that's just because it wasn't very interesting, i stopped reading after a paragraph, cause life really is too short.... none of us on here are sports scientists, we just enjoy football for the game and spectacle that it is, maybe that's an english thing, but that's just the way we are....

and besides you can generate all the statistics and psychology you like about penalties and suggest that english players have no education in how to kick a ball, but there are world class players outside of england who, under pressure, emotive, just don't get it right...

is this guy shit, too:

Then your opinions count for less than mine.

If you had botherd to read and internalise the study's findings you would realise that Baggio's miss, if anything, confirms its conclusions.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Radovan just got pwn3ed

[Darkzzz_]

I love the banter with most of the lads on here, that is all I see it as. When I am wrong I admit it as do most people (Some just can't)!

Radovan has a right to voice his views, I can't say that he bothers me because I only read posts that interest me. My posts mostly happen in other topics anyway so I only interact with a select amount of people, which suits me.

Everybody just chill the fook out, have a drink, it is my birthday after all....

[shen]

Do I care about that? No.

Did you answer any of my questions? No.

For someone who hates England so much, you know an awful lot about them. I'll never hide from anything, unlike you. You can't even answer five simple questions. Some guy.

To be fair though, quite a few forum rules have been broken in this thread (that includes Radovan), and the fact you stoop so low to join the ganging up on Radovan reflects badly on you.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

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(2) Players are selected on ad hoc basis to take penalties and the criteria is often who's up for it on the night. The coach should select and make known the five principal takers before any knock out match. The criteria should be age (older players are LESS confident) and ability. The weaker takers should go first (their technique and confidence is more likely to fail as pressure mounts). When it comes to sudden death the younger players should be selected.

Only someone within the England set up could truely know any of this from who is the best penalty taker or if it is selected on an ad hoc basis.

[The Doctor]

And the rest. Brazil have got far more world class players than your supposed three. That's pretty much why they're one of the best teams in the world. And Van Nistelrooy world class? Not anymore. And Pirlo? The same again for me. And Ballack. And Klose.

pirlo and gattuso are the second best midfield pairing after xavi and iniesta IMO. he may not be top class on his own but with gattuso they are both extrodinary

We lost 3-2 and 2-0 to Crotia in 2007. Fast forward a couple of years under Capello, and we've hit nine goals past the same team, conceding just twice. That's a decent turnaround I think you'll find.

I know you love winding people up on here though, just a bit of an arse really.

tis a good turnaround but you will end up cocking it up in the latter stages simply because england have struggled for so long (43 years) that when they get within sight of a major title they choke, like a rabbit in headlights. Before you can claim capello as the saviour of the english game he needs to adress this.

[Uncle Albert]

pirlo and gattuso are the second best midfield pairing after xavi and iniesta IMO.

There are pleanty around better than them.

Radovan is a wankshaft.

[Uncle Albert]

Not intimidated by Brazil

Seriously I'm not, their team in 2002 was so much better than the current team and look at the bag of shit we had in Korea, Trevor Sinclair, Nicky Butt, Danny Mills and Keiran Dyer.

I have every faith in Capello to take us to the final.

[The Doctor]

There are pleanty around better than them.

Radovan is a wankshaft.

who?

[Uncle Albert]

who?

Iniesta and Xavi

Lampard, Ballack and Essien

Gerrard and Mascherano

Alonso, Diarra and Kaka

Barton and Nolan

Huddlestone and Palacios

Hendrie and Oakley - 06/07

Cambiasso and Sniejder

[The Doctor]

Iniesta and Xavi

Lampard, Ballack and Essien

Gerrard and Mascherano

Alonso, Diarra and Kaka

Barton and Nolan

Huddlestone and Palacios

Hendrie and Oakley - 06/07

Cambiasso and Sniejder

sorry should have made myself clearer. At international level there is only one midfield partnership better than pirlo + Gattuso

[CosbehFox]

tis a good turnaround but you will end up cocking it up in the latter stages simply because england have struggled for so long (43 years) that when they get within sight of a major title they choke, like a rabbit in headlights. Before you can claim capello as the saviour of the english game he needs to adress this.

Similar to Scotland when they require one more win for qualification.

[CosbehFox]

So explanations are drivel eh? An insight into the boorish English footie mentality? OK here's some drivel for you to ponder.

England have exited three out of the last four World Cups for which they have qualified on penalties. The post mortems on each of these occasions has focused on one issue - the pro's and con's of practising penalties. Nothing else.

I can tell you now the reason why England lose such a high percentage of shoot outs (80% failure rate including Euro's) has little to do with practising penalties. In fact, in a practice session England would merely rehearse their mistakes. England's penalty problem is a triple whammy:

(1) A very high percentage of English players (including internationals) do not know how to correctly address a football (a point onfirmed by Pat Nevin in his autobiography). They are still largely self taught when it comes to the art of striking a football and very few do any of the rep work (with or without guidance) to master the skill.

(2) Players are selected on ad hoc basis to take penalties and the criteria is often who's up for it on the night. The coach should select and make known the five principal takers before any knock out match. The criteria should be age (older players are LESS confident) and ability. The weaker takers should go first (their technique and confidence is more likely to fail as pressure mounts). When it comes to sudden death the younger players should be selected.

(3) The main reason why England screw up shoot outs is because of poxy keeping. This truth has never been publicly acknowledged It doesn't have to be this way. Keepers can be taught to up their penalty save rate. Penalty saving is about basic stats (right footed kickers prefer placing to the left), enhancing agility (principally through resistance training) and, most importantly of all, learning to read the body language of penalty takers (Ricardo of Portugal is the master of this - he has stated the majority of takers telegraph placement in their run up).

Don't tell me - you knew all this drivel already. Like fook you did.

Football's a simple game. It's over complicated by statistics and expert opinions. There's only one way of proving your quality and that's consistently winning. England are currently doing that.

As for Point 1...codswallop Brazil possess some of the most superb, gifted footballers yet their organisation in youth football coaching is near non-existent. The way they improve is just practice, practice, practice between mates and observing peers. One of England's greatest problems with training our players as that we over organise everything and the enjoyment is quickly out of football and we begin playing like informed robots.

Point 2 and 3......point 2 is already done to a point but your idea about weaker peno takers first is correct IMO; however in that I mean having your weakest of your best 5 first. Point 3, I think it's already started with goalkeeping coaches debriefing goalkeepers with videos of penalties and set-pieces of the oppositions before the game. Look at Foster during the Carling Cup final.

[Joe.]

sorry should have made myself clearer. At international level there is only one midfield partnership better than pirlo + Gattuso

No chance. They're both far too old these days to be considered the second best partnership in the world. Pirlo's one of the most painfully overrated footballers I've ever come across, and Gattusso's mostly decent for his work-rate and tenacity.

[dandannieldanok]

You've gone into your shell triple D.

I wonder why...

went to bed more likely

You seriously have no valid points to make, you just despise England for some reason and base your hatred on pointless and meaningless statistics and a dislike for our style of play. People reply to you, including me, because we don't like to see our country denounced by some awful little person from a nothing place. If you came from a country that was worth something then people might listen to you but you don't, you come from one of those horrible eastern European hell holes. It's clear that you're harbouring some kind of jealously towards us but cloak it in this ridiculous hatred. No point in denying it, if you weren't jealous of England and you weren't extremely interested in England then why have you racked up nearly 300 posts talking about England? You can't take the fact that no matter how badly this country ****s up in whatever it does, it'll still remain one of the most important in the world. You can't take the fact that your country's tiny achievements are being completely ignored whereas England's win is world news. It's a fact of life, get over it.

Whether you pretend to hate England or not, you're clearly on here as a wind-up. A lot of people have been able to ignore it and rise above it and I salute them, unfortunately I fell into your trap. It just riles me that you have the gall to criticise England when you come from Serbia.

[Tommy G]

went to bed more likely

You seriously have no valid points to make, you just despise England for some reason and base your hatred on pointless and meaningless statistics and a dislike for our style of play. People reply to you, including me, because we don't like to see our country denounced by some awful little person from a nothing place. If you came from a country that was worth something then people might listen to you but you don't, you come from one of those horrible eastern European hell holes. It's clear that you're harbouring some kind of jealously towards us but cloak it in this ridiculous hatred. No point in denying it, if you weren't jealous of England and you weren't extremely interested in England then why have you racked up nearly 300 posts talking about England? You can't take the fact that no matter how badly this country ****s up in whatever it does, it'll still remain one of the most important in the world. You can't take the fact that your country's tiny achievements are being completely ignored whereas England's win is world news. It's a fact of life, get over it.

Whether you pretend to hate England or not, you're clearly on here as a wind-up. A lot of people have been able to ignore it and rise above it and I salute them, unfortunately I fell into your trap. It just riles me that you have the gall to criticise England when you come from Serbia.

BOOM!

Did you get a sweat on writing that?

[dandannieldanok]

BOOM!

Did you get a sweat on writing that?

just a bit

[Webbo]

Whether you pretend to hate England or not, you're clearly on here as a wind-up. A lot of people have been able to ignore it and rise above it and I salute them, unfortunately I fell into your trap. It just riles me that you have the gall to criticise England when you come from Serbia.

: He's no more Serbian than I am Chinese.

[BlueSi13]

went to bed more likely

You seriously have no valid points to make, you just despise England for some reason and base your hatred on pointless and meaningless statistics and a dislike for our style of play. People reply to you, including me, because we don't like to see our country denounced by some awful little person from a nothing place. If you came from a country that was worth something then people might listen to you but you don't, you come from one of those horrible eastern European hell holes. It's clear that you're harbouring some kind of jealously towards us but cloak it in this ridiculous hatred. No point in denying it, if you weren't jealous of England and you weren't extremely interested in England then why have you racked up nearly 300 posts talking about England? You can't take the fact that no matter how badly this country ****s up in whatever it does, it'll still remain one of the most important in the world. You can't take the fact that your country's tiny achievements are being completely ignored whereas England's win is world news. It's a fact of life, get over it.

Whether you pretend to hate England or not, you're clearly on here as a wind-up. A lot of people have been able to ignore it and rise above it and I salute them, unfortunately I fell into your trap. It just riles me that you have the gall to criticise England when you come from Serbia.

Game, set and match Radovan, now do us all a favour and fook off back to your shithole

Btw England are the greatest football team in the history of the universe......FACT

[Lillehamring]

Then your opinions count for less than mine.

If you had botherd to read and internalise the study's findings you would realise that Baggio's miss, if anything, confirms its conclusions.

the report, apparently says:

The criteria should be age (older players are LESS confident) and ability. The weaker takers should go first (their technique and confidence is more likely to fail as pressure mounts). When it comes to sudden death the younger players should be selected.

so his miss confirms that you should put your weaker takers first, fair enough, but then surely it also proves that the survey's finding mean nothing, as baggio's miss was the miss that lost the competion.... thus by 'following' the 'study's findings' they lost the game, nice one...

besides, the point i was making was that even a world player of the year can miss a penalty, to suggest that english players miss penalties because they aren't technically proficient at kicking a ball, is frankly a bit daft, i mean even you must admit that beckham in his prime was a fairly decent kicker of the dead ball

and, yes, my opinion does count for nothing, big deal, i'm not on any kind of ego trip, i'm not 'challenging' people - the difference being that your opinion also counts for nothing only you seem to think that you are some kind of champion, some kind of hero poster cause you put people down and quote tedious documents on a generally irreverant forum.

[shen]

went to bed more likely

You seriously have no valid points to make, you just despise England for some reason and base your hatred on pointless and meaningless statistics and a dislike for our style of play. People reply to you, including me, because we don't like to see our country denounced by some awful little person from a nothing place. If you came from a country that was worth something then people might listen to you but you don't, you come from one of those horrible eastern European hell holes. It's clear that you're harbouring some kind of jealously towards us but cloak it in this ridiculous hatred. No point in denying it, if you weren't jealous of England and you weren't extremely interested in England then why have you racked up nearly 300 posts talking about England? You can't take the fact that no matter how badly this country ****s up in whatever it does, it'll still remain one of the most important in the world. You can't take the fact that your country's tiny achievements are being completely ignored whereas England's win is world news. It's a fact of life, get over it.

Whether you pretend to hate England or not, you're clearly on here as a wind-up. A lot of people have been able to ignore it and rise above it and I salute them, unfortunately I fell into your trap. It just riles me that you have the gall to criticise England when you come from Serbia.

What a terrible terrible post You almost sound like a stereo-typical American in that rant. Radovan's criticism is not exactly soft or veiled, and you might even disagree with him, but in essence he just points out what he thinks are the flaws of English/British football. Whatever his motives are, it shouldn't be beyond people to treat his points 'objectively' instead of resulting to personal insults. Why his nationality should matter is beyond me. He's shown he knows a lot more about English football than a whole host of people on here.

[davieG]

What a terrible terrible post You almost sound like a stereo-typical American in that rant. Radovan's criticism is not exactly soft or veiled, and you might even disagree with him, but in essence he just points out what he thinks are the flaws of English/British football. Whatever his motives are, it shouldn't be beyond people to treat his points 'objectively' instead of resulting to personal insults. Why his nationality should matter is beyond me. He's shown he knows a lot more about English football than a whole host of people on here.

If you believe his points are objective, but they aren't they're all one-sided and he has a legitimate motive, he doesn't.

He's a wind up merchant, a troll who's sole intention is to cause reaction and disruption whilst he sits at his keyboard admiring his work.