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Max Gradel

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If he is going to a League Two club, surely that tells you something?

It's not any league 2 club though is it. He had a great spell at Bournemouth which gave him the chance in the Leicester first team last season. I'm sure he has a big space for Bourenemouth in his heart as they and the fans were brilliant with him during his hard times.

For whatever reason Pearson isn't playing him so give him first team football at a club on the up. I also read it would be an emergency loan due to injury problems so I'm sure it would be a great favour and benefit for all involved.

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Can't we send N'Guessan or Gallagher out on loan and keep Gradel involved instead?. We've not got anything like the best out of Gradel yet and from what I've seen so far I really can't believe we prefer the other two or, indeed, Oakley on the right.

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Can't we send N'Guessan or Gallagher out on loan and keep Gradel involved instead?. We've not got anything like the best out of Gradel yet and from what I've seen so far I really can't believe we prefer the other two or, indeed, Oakley on the right.

Send Gallagher out on loan? Are you serious?

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Send Gallagher out on loan? Are you serious?

I was being facetious. But I've seen little yet to understand why Gallagher was signed or that can make things happen with anything like the consistency that Gradel does. For me Gallagher is a fringe player who has skill and the ability to find space but rarely hurts people.

Gradel on the other hand is frustrating, inconsistent, pumped full of debateable advice that has all-but ruined any chance of his being at his explosive best yet still his self-belief persists and still he will try and try until he makes something happen.

In some ways it's a pity he's not gone to Bournemouth because they'd play to his strengths and he'd know they wanted and appreciated him.

Here, he's just like Campbell's been. Wasted and overlooked in preference to so-called seniors who have delivered very little so far.

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I was being facetious. But I've seen little yet to understand why Gallagher was signed or that can make things happen with anything like the consistency that Gradel does. For me Gallagher is a fringe player who has skill and the ability to find space but rarely hurts people.

Gradel on the other hand is frustrating, inconsistent, pumped full of debateable advice that has all-but ruined any chance of his being at his explosive best yet still his self-belief persists and still he will try and try until he makes something happen.

In some ways it's a pity he's not gone to Bournemouth because they'd play to his strengths and he'd know they wanted and appreciated him.

Here, he's just like Campbell's been. Wasted and overlooked in preference to so-called seniors who have delivered very little so far.

The one's that have got us in and around the play off places?

Guest Basildon Fox
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I was being facetious. But I've seen little yet to understand why Gallagher was signed or that can make things happen with anything like the consistency that Gradel does. For me Gallagher is a fringe player who has skill and the ability to find space but rarely hurts people.

Gradel on the other hand is frustrating, inconsistent, pumped full of debateable advice that has all-but ruined any chance of his being at his explosive best yet still his self-belief persists and still he will try and try until he makes something happen.

In some ways it's a pity he's not gone to Bournemouth because they'd play to his strengths and he'd know they wanted and appreciated him.

Here, he's just like Campbell's been. Wasted and overlooked in preference to so-called seniors who have delivered very little so far.

I whole heartedly agree. Deserves a chance to show what he can do. Either play him or sell him because a lad of his talent needs to play regularly. People say he is inconsistent but perhaps if he had a sustained run in the team we may see the best of him. More of a genuine winger than N'Guessan or Gallagher will ever be.

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The one's that have got us in and around the play off places?

I don't see seventh as winning anything and I certainly wouldn't say we've performed at our best thus far and neither does the manager.

But Gradel helped us win a title so your point is?

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The one's that have got us in and around the play off places?

Would you not say that we are there despite the RM side as opposed to because of it?

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I don't see seventh as winning anything and I certainly wouldn't say we've performed at our best thus far and neither does the manager.

But Gradel helped us win a title so your point is?

But at least Nige acknowledges that we haven't performed to out best, and we're still seventh. No it's not winning anything yet but let's be honest, we'd all have taken this so far at the start of the season.

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But at least Nige acknowledges that we haven't performed to out best, and we're still seventh. No it's not winning anything yet but let's be honest, we'd all have taken this so far at the start of the season.

and what's wrong with Thrac wanting players that are under performing replaced with someone who is a potential game winner, at the very least, with 7 subs Gradel is worthy of a place on the bench, yes he's inconsistent (but that'll never change if he never plays) but he's a potential game changer and a threat from set pieces too

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I don't see seventh as winning anything and I certainly wouldn't say we've performed at our best thus far and neither does the manager.

But Gradel helped us win a title so your point is?

Me either but, League One is a whole different level compared to the Championship, even you know that.

I'm baffled as to why he doesn't get a place on the bench too, but at the end of the day it's the managers decision.

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and what's wrong with Thrac wanting players that are under performing replaced with someone who is a potential game winner, at the very least, with 7 subs Gradel is worthy of a place on the bench, yes he's inconsistent (but that'll never change if he never plays) but he's a potential game changer and a threat from set pieces too

Thanks Jimmy. There's a little more to it. Attendances are falling in football - and there's no problems singing our "empty seats" song at any game.

The economic reasons for this are going to continue for a long time whatver happens at the next election so football and football managers have to realise they are in the entertainment business.

Gradel is one of the few players we've had at City for years who creates a bit of a buzz when he gets the ball. There's an air of expectancy and it could be even more so if we started getting the best out of him.

I don't want to see football matches that are little more than tactical dead-ends with two cautious teams cancelling each other out. Our route back to footballing relevence has to be by setting out to score as many goals as we can and to start a buzz of excitement around our City.

Pearson has the makings of an outstanding manager and I don't say that very often. But he's never struck me as a natural risk taker in football matters and, as a former defender, he'll have to be brave to finally put his faith in Arsenal-style attack.

But for how long have we trod the other route and got nowhere? Peason has already shown himself as wanting to attack. Y'd just like to see him do so with greater numbers and a more sustained attitude. And people like Gradel are the Holy Grail in terms of attack. Especially in half-hour cameos.

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There were time's early last season when we wondered what there was that Max Gradel WASN'T capable of.

Yes that scintillating form didn't last long, but the boy has ability. Apparently he tore league 1 apart the season before last, why does he not even deserve a place on the bench at least to show he may of may not have recaptured his form and lived up to his potential. Even more so when the current wingers are so inconsistant, and we're having to play central midfielders and strikers in that position.

I think Thracian is spot on, alot of players at the club are simpy overlooked. Yes I love nige and am thankful for everything he has done, I just hope we could see a little less of players who aren't delivering, and let others who could, have a chance.

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and what's wrong with Thrac wanting players that are under performing replaced with someone who is a potential game winner, at the very least, with 7 subs Gradel is worthy of a place on the bench, yes he's inconsistent (but that'll never change if he never plays) but he's a potential game changer and a threat from set pieces too

Nothing wrong with it at all, I think you'll find I never even suggested that. Nige has shown with the selection of DJ that people who perform in training are eligible for selection for the squad regardless. If Nige isn't picking him it must be for a reason

EDIT: for an example, who would you have had him in in place of on the bench at Coventry?

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I have a feeling that SOME of those who are saying that Gradel should be given a chance and play in some of the upcoming games, will also be the ones who MIGHT moan at him when/if he umderperforms...

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Nothing wrong with it at all, I think you'll find I never even suggested that. Nige has shown with the selection of DJ that people who perform in training are eligible for selection for the squad regardless. If Nige isn't picking him it must be for a reason

EDIT: for an example, who would you have had him in in place of on the bench at Coventry?

The answer to that would be who would you rather have at RM coming off the bench? DJ Campbell or Max Gradel? I know which one I would choose for that position and for that reason he should have been and indeed should be on the bench especially as he can play on the left too.

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The answer to that would be who would you rather have at RM coming off the bench? DJ Campbell or Max Gradel? I know which one I would choose for that position and for that reason he should have been and indeed should be on the bench especially as he can play on the left too.

I'd rather have Maxi than DJ obviously at RM but that wasn't really the formation that they were playing when he brought DJ on was it? And to be fair, Adams is getting in ahead of Maxi on current form.He's really just in the unlucky position of being down the pecking order of wingers.

To be frank I'd rather Nige didn't try to shoe-horn Gallagher into the team on the right, but that's yet another person who's getting picked ahead of MG.

I'd love to see him getting some game time, or at least being in the squad too, but not for the sake of it if there are people performing better in training. That's all I was attempting to say.

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Nothing wrong with it at all, I think you'll find I never even suggested that. Nige has shown with the selection of DJ that people who perform in training are eligible for selection for the squad regardless. If Nige isn't picking him it must be for a reason

EDIT: for an example, who would you have had him in in place of on the bench at Coventry?

if Nige wants to have 3 strikers on the bench then it would obviously be a case of Adams or Gradel in the second midfielder spot, but normally we only name 2 sub strikers in that case then Gradel should get the extra spot, personally I'd have him starting in place of Gallagher, which ever wing he happens to be playing on

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He does have a future apparently - Link

Leicester City assistant manager Craig Shakespeare has insisted winger Max Gradel has a future at the club.

After breaking into the first team last season, Gradel has only featured in one Carling Cup game this season, but Shakespeare said he was still an important part of the first-team squad.

"Of course he has a future at the club," he said. "We all saw last season his ability to go past people. At the moment, because of, if he is honest, a bit of a loss of form from him and good form from other people, he hasn't quite had the opportunity yet.

"He is an important member of the squad and, given his opportunity, I am sure he will show the ability he showed last year."

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