Sir Fynwy Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 I think Gradel believed his own hype a bit.he should ditch the lime green boots, knock himself down a peg or two and work harder to get in the team. If NP thought he could do the job then he would be in the team. I trust NP to pick the right team on the day so I'll leave it at that. We don't see what goes on day in day out at training so it's difficult for anyone to judge really. Never mind, I'm sure the gradel hype will still be around this time next year Why should the colour of the boots given to him free by a sponsor affect his performance or standing?
Tommy G Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 Why should the colour of the boots given to him free by a sponsor affect his performance or standing? because you can only get away with boots like that if you are any good, and he isn't. Wouldn't loose sleep about it though
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 because you can only get away with boots like that if you are any good, and he isn't.Wouldn't loose sleep about it though Mmmm sounds like bollocks to me but you may be right. That is like saying you should only be allowed an avatar if you don't post complete rubbish. Can you see what I am getting at?
Zingari Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 Mmmm sounds like bollocks to me but you may be right. That is like saying you should only be allowed an avatar if you don't post complete rubbish. Can you see what I am getting at? yes i'm only allowed a black and white one , i can't seem to graduate to a coloured avatar
martyn Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 The whole notion about only good players being allowed to get away with wearing flashy boots is absolute tripe. Who gives a to55 what colour boots a player is wearing, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
Zingari Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 only brilliant footballers ought to wear royal blue shirts , the rest should stick to red or sky blue
Guest Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 yes i'm only allowed a black and white one , i can't seem to graduate to a coloured avatar It's good to have a dream
CKB Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 No I am not angry. The points I make are to encourge posts.I am close to Max but whatever player I am close to I know I have no power to play them and therefore I just support them. I do not accept Max is not good enough like some are saying. This I base not on my freindship with Max but the fact I have not seen Max play 4 or 5 games on the trot at this level. I believe that when you bring a young player through your system that you should give that player a fair crack of the whip. I dont believe we do this with most of our young lads. I can not ever understand a person judging a footballer by listening to the radio or not seeing the player play at this level. That's cool KIA and i for one appreicate it alot you come on here and tell us things and encourage debate! I do agree with what you say, Max should be given a chance really! if Dany has who was playing League 2 football last season then Max should be given a fair crack!
Edmund Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 because you can only get away with boots like that if you are any good, and he isn't. Ridiculous
Thracian Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 This is certainly the case with our wingers.Dare I suggest that this is because they are being played as wide midfield players with onerous defensive duties? Dyer, N'Guessan and in all probability Gradel are all far better players when receiving the ball 20-25 yards out where they can directly attack the defense and make things happen. At the moment they are getting posession much deeper, 40-45 yards out where they have to beat several covering players before they can even take on the back 4. Clearly this is not effective. Why not change the way we play? It's a truism of modern football that attackers are expected to track back vigourously when possession is lost but defenders aren't expected to support the forwards to anything like the same extent when we have the ball. And yet, so often, it is the best teams who have the most attack-minded defenders.
Guest Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 It's a truism of modern football that attackers are expected to track back vigourously when possession is lost but defenders aren't expected to support the forwards to anything like the same extent when we have the ball. And yet, so often, it is the best teams who have the most attack-minded defenders. I'd hardly say that our current defenders, with the exception of Brown possibly, could be accused of not supporting the forwards by attacking. I've lost count of the number of times this season already that I've seen Berner/Neilson/Morro or whoever in the final third of the pitch
marbelladave Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 It's a truism of modern football that attackers are expected to track back vigourously when possession is lost but defenders aren't expected to support the forwards to anything like the same extent when we have the ball. And yet, so often, it is the best teams who have the most attack-minded defenders. This is true to a degree, but it is also true that the best teams can afford to play attack minded defenders! My posts in recent times have, in the main, been about getting the best from the players we do have. Our full backs show willing but are really not that much good going forward. Why continue to do so when it requires the attacking players in front of them to spend too much of their time defending which they are not very good at. It would be great if we had a team full of players who could attack and defend in equal measure but the reality is that we do not, hence my almost continuous call for players to be played in 'their natural/best' positions. Asking natural wingers or center forwards to play defensive wide midfield is a nonsense. Whilst I am not suggesting that our forward players be excused all defensive duties the accent of their play should be on the attack. If our midfield needs help do not ask them to cover all the way back to the back 4, play another proper midfielder. Similarly if you want to play on the counter, pick pacy players to run off Fryatt not a less than mobile center forward. Looks like common sense to me!
flanimal Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 Gradel might not be a great crosser, but he does offer the occasionaly bit of flair. When I watched him play he seemed to be up for attacking his fullback (which N'Guessan doesn't always seem upfor). Gradel is pretty good defensively too, if Leicester ever played a 3-5-2, I think he'd make a good wingback. Surely he'l get a shot soon.
MPH Posted 2 October 2009 Posted 2 October 2009 Gradel might not be a great crosser, but he does offer the occasionaly bit of flair. When I watched him play he seemed to be up for attacking his fullback (which N'Guessan doesn't always seem upfor). Gradel is pretty good defensively too, if Leicester ever played a 3-5-2, I think he'd make a good wingback. Surely he'll get shot soon.
Thracian Posted 3 October 2009 Posted 3 October 2009 This is true to a degree, but it is also true that the best teams can afford to play attack minded defenders!My posts in recent times have, in the main, been about getting the best from the players we do have. Our full backs show willing but are really not that much good going forward. Why continue to do so when it requires the attacking players in front of them to spend too much of their time defending which they are not very good at. It would be great if we had a team full of players who could attack and defend in equal measure but the reality is that we do not, hence my almost continuous call for players to be played in 'their natural/best' positions. Asking natural wingers or center forwards to play defensive wide midfield is a nonsense. Whilst I am not suggesting that our forward players be excused all defensive duties the accent of their play should be on the attack. If our midfield needs help do not ask them to cover all the way back to the back 4, play another proper midfielder. Similarly if you want to play on the counter, pick pacy players to run off Fryatt not a less than mobile center forward. Looks like common sense to me! I couldn't agree more with your philosophy. Trouble is the modern way is to turn players into all-rounders rather than specialist craftsmen. A consequence is that, so often, we compromise and sign/develop players who are steady all-rounders but not actually brilliant at anything apart, perhaps, from closing people down which is so fundamental today. Wingers today can be much more functionary - as in stretching the play and providing quick ball into the box - rather than destructive as in taking people on and causing havoc in dangerous areas. The problem with the latter to many coaches is that it risks losing the ball (often fatal at a decent level) and taking people on at speed is energy sapping and soon leaves the winger strugling to do defensive duties effectively. Look how Dyer so often fades in a game. On the other hand, it can result in several goals in any game as guys like Ronaldo, George Best, Peter Thompson and Ian Callaghan demonstrated with interest. As one who likes football to be entertaining and fundamentaly a battle in which one side tries to score more goals than the other rather than a battle decided by which one can strangle the game most effectively, I know which I prefer. But I often feel like I'm in a minority and, for the people in charge, all that matters is results however they are achieved.
Webbo Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 Only Vital football I'm afraid. AFC Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe could be set to make another move to bring Leicester City winger Maxi Gradel back to Dean Court.The former Cherries loan favourite is out of favour with the Championship side and Howe had made an initial move for Gradel last week. But the two sides were unable to reach an agreement before the Cherries trip to Port Vale, so Howe brought in West Ham's Edgar instead. However, the Football League have now allowed the Cherries to sign a second non contract or loan player for a month and speculation indicates that the Cherries might make another move to get Maxi Gradel. AFC Bournemouth Chairman Eddie Mitchell told the Daily Echo... "The extra player we want to get in this week will help, but the league certainly make you dot the Is and cross the Ts to even get that far. We`ve had to send medical records to the league to prove we are genuinely in this situation and not pulling a fast one."
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 Would be a good move for him and us. Would get him some match sharpness and hopefully some confidence which I would imagine is pretty low at the moment.
Edmund Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 Only Vital football I'm afraid. Even though he could easily play a league higher than Bournemouth are in, this would be a great move for him especially to keep his match fitness sharp. Also Bournemouth are high flying at the minute so the spirits will be high around him not to mention the love in he will recieve on his second return. It can only do him good if he is not in NP's current plans.
Ozwin Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 It's weird, he was a fairly vital first teamer last year and all of a sudden he doesn't get a shout in.
FoxesFan123 Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 League 2 football is not gonna help Max Gradel.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 League 2 football is not gonna help Max Gradel. I agree. Needs to be at an average League 1 team to help progress his game.
Webbo Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 League 2 football is not gonna help Max Gradel. It's got to be better than nothing.
Corky Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 League 2 football is not gonna help Max Gradel. Neither is reserve football/ not playing at all. It's a better alternative to go to Bournemouth.
CosbehFox Posted 5 October 2009 Posted 5 October 2009 League 2 football is not gonna help Max Gradel. I think it would greatly help his confidence. Probably better being at the top of L2 than scrapping at the bottom of L1 ala Chambers regardless of the level.
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