posties

[Benji]

Posties angry.

I'm not surprised. It shows to me that they are not irreplaceable, and that there are people out there more than willing to step into the breach. The only thing I think is a pity is that the temporary workers can't do the work that the strikers would have done had they not thrown their toys out of the pram.

Have to laugh, on the BBC the sub-heading is/was "union unhappy by temporary staff plan".

Well yes, because it renders your whole action useless.

[Guest]

roughly on topic:

anybody know what you're meant to do when a package goes "missing"

It was a recorded delivery and i wasn't in so it went to the warehouse, i went to collect it and get "not here mate, sorry"

Phone up and check the parcel wasn't late into the depot. Failing that, check the Royal Mail website, as I don't know.

[purpleronnie]

At least the bosses are paying themselves millions in bonuses whilst trying to justify cutbacks, as long as they're happy eh? Screw the working man. People moaning that in their jobs they have no union and have to go without pay rises and accept all the changes, and they seem to want the posties to do the same? Insanity.

[breadandcheese]

At least the bosses are paying themselves millions in bonuses whilst trying to justify cutbacks, as long as they're happy eh? Screw the working man. People moaning that in their jobs they have no union and have to go without pay rises and accept all the changes, and they seem to want the posties to do the same? Insanity.

I was always raised on the basis of, if you don't like your job, get a new one. If there's no other jobs around, then be grateful you have one. A job, unfortunately, is not an entitlement.

I think what annoys me most about this strike action is that I actually have no idea as to the demands of the union nor management. I keep reading reports in newspapers about how the unions are angry at management plans, and have put forward proposals, but I do not actually know either sides' position other than a few management buzzwords like, modernising agenda, unworkable proposals, etc. Despite this, I like the rest of the country, am going to be put out by this.

I'm also surprised at the government's lack of input in all this. As the sole shareholder, they either agree with the management's plan, in which case they should try and hammer the union, or they agree with the union, in which case they as shareholders, should push for new management. Instead, we're left with a few statements and the seeming need to distance themselves as much possible.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I get a pay rise every year.

Postie steals at least one package from me a month.

Trav le Blue is a bloody nice bloke.

Like Natalie Imbruglia, I'm torn.

For what it's worth, I don't think we should be striking. At my depot we thought it would be a close vote, but I think it was 72% in favour. I just hope ACAS can sort something out. At my deliver office we are cutting 2 jobs and yet we have to regularly get guys in from other deliver offices to cover jobs that we can't.

Oh, and Crozier got a £2 million pay bonus last year. He's doing to Royal Mail what he did to the FA.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Trav you must be the man to ask - what is it over? I have read one of the major points is a plan to bring in a electronic sorting machine across the network (the machine sorts out post in street order, ready to be delivered by the posties) Apparenty this will effect jobs across the country.

If thats right, surely the Union must realise that Striking is also going to cost jobs in the long run due to loss of trade? Surely they could have come up with a less public pissing off option, maybe working to rule rather than striking?

[Trav Le Bleu]

Trav you must be the man to ask - what is it over? I have read one of the major points is a plan to bring in a electronic sorting machine across the network (the machine sorts out post in street order, ready to be delivered by the posties) Apparenty this will effect jobs across the country.

If thats right, surely the Union must realise that Striking is also going to cost jobs in the long run due to loss of trade? Surely they could have come up with a less public pissing off option, maybe working to rule rather than striking?

That's part of it I understand, but there's a whole raft of changes they want to make without consultation. I don't know much, don't want to get involved and just want to work and do my job.

The idea of a work to rule is probably much more sensible... but since when has common sense been a factor in these kinds of negotiations?

[Jiggers the Fox]

Source:- http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/busines...n-200910082119/

PAT AND JESS TRADE INSULTS OVER STRIKE ACTION

BRITAIN'S leading postman and his long-standing colleague last night exchanged vicious insults in an acrimonious split over proposed strike action.

'Arse-licking scab'

Pat Clifton, head of the Royal Mail's Special Delivery Service, has branded Jess, his black and white cat, a 'class traitor who would gladly stab his comrades in the back if he had thumbs'.

Clifton, who has threatened to bring the Cumbrian village of Greendale to a standstill, said: "He knows fook all about it anyway. I'm the one who's out there in all weathers delivering erection pills and Leona Lewis CDs while he sits in the van with his tongue stuck halfway up his crack."

But Jess insisted: "We have to accept that the Royal Mail needs to be leaner and more efficient in an era of ever increasing electronic communication. As much as I may enjoy the sensation, I have to admit that I really do not need my own sidecar."

He added: "And he can fooking talk. He works about two hours a day and spends the rest of the time on his Blackberry sending dirty emails to Mrs Goggins and trying to coax her into a three-way with Alf Thompson."

A Royal Mail spokesman said: "Jess understands the challenges facing the organisation while Pat uses up vast sums of money maintaining a completely unnecessary helicopter."

Meanwhile the Communication Workers Union has unveiled plans to picket the internet using hundreds of microscopic postmen.

A spokesman said: "We will shrink our members down to the size of an atom, much like Fantastic Voyage starring Raquel Welch, but without the figure-hugging outfits and the tiny submarine.

"They will then be placed inside telephone wires and fibre optic cables in a bid to stop billions of electrons going to work."

He added: "We hope to persuade the electrons to stand in solidarity with us, though that could be tricky as they do tend to travel at the speed of light. Any electrons that side with management will be branded as scabs.

"We'll also be shrinking lots of placards and banners, as well as dozens of tiny little braziers because the internet can get very chilly at this time of year."

haha this is brilliant! I knew pat had a nasty side, knew it

[Tilley]

I have about six things being sent in the post and another I've sent out, better get here/there.

[Guest]

Royal Mail can go and screw itself.

[lavrentis]

Good old posties round my way are still delivering

[davieG]

Just had to collect my parcel from a DHL agent, reckoned they knocked on the door at a specific time and got no answer, strange when we know we were very near to the door at that exact time.

Service industries on the whole are all shit.

Rang Sky up with a query having to use an 0845 number, keyed in all manner of information was then asked a loads more before we eventually got to discuss my problem. They decided I need to speak to another department transferred me and I had to repeat all the information about myself again. How they can't tell the difference between a new caller and a transferred one I don't know but as I said they're all shit.

[Guest]

Just had to collect my parcel from a DHL agent, reckoned they knocked on the door at a specific time and got no answer, strange when we know we were very near to the door at that exact time.

Service industries on the whole are all shit.

It's when the van turns up, the driver sits in the cab for a few minutes, and posts the card through the door without even knocking that you know that some drivers are complete cockends.

[purpleronnie]

I was always raised on the basis of, if you don't like your job, get a new one. If there's no other jobs around, then be grateful you have one. A job, unfortunately, is not an entitlement.

I think what annoys me most about this strike action is that I actually have no idea as to the demands of the union nor management. I keep reading reports in newspapers about how the unions are angry at management plans, and have put forward proposals, but I do not actually know either sides' position other than a few management buzzwords like, modernising agenda, unworkable proposals, etc. Despite this, I like the rest of the country, am going to be put out by this.

I'm also surprised at the government's lack of input in all this. As the sole shareholder, they either agree with the management's plan, in which case they should try and hammer the union, or they agree with the union, in which case they as shareholders, should push for new management. Instead, we're left with a few statements and the seeming need to distance themselves as much possible.

How sad, surely workers have to have rights? This is the same firm that has seen 40,000 jobs dissapear whilst bosses pay themselves millions.

The post office workers have it hard though because there jobs effect everyone else I'm sure if it was some other job which didnt cause so much hassle for everyone they may have more support, but as usual the selfish attitude kicks in.

[Guest]

How sad, surely workers have to have rights?

They do have rights. It's to what degree those rights they want match the ones that they're given. And as long as there are people willing to step into the breach, the employers are going to have the moral high ground.

[Daggers]

How sad, surely workers have to have rights? This is the same firm that has seen 40,000 jobs dissapear whilst bosses pay themselves millions.

The post office workers have it hard though because there jobs effect everyone else I'm sure if it was some other job which didnt cause so much hassle for everyone they may have more support, but as usual the selfish attitude kicks in.

Load of cock.

They don't have support because they aren't justified in withdrawing labour, are represented by inarticulate fools and preach the politics of envy.

The fact that "bosses pay themselves millions" is irrelevant. Castigating anyone opposed to this strike as simply being selfish is imbecilic.

Anyway, as someone who's only involvement in this is via a BBC website I'm sure you have a much better perspective on this situation than those of us actually living here, so you carry on...

[Tilley]

I have developed quite a disliking for the Royal Mail.

[Dr The Singh]

I have developed quite a disliking for the Royal Mail.

Funnily enough I don't think the public ACTUALLY in any DETAIL know why the posties are striking. All you hear is pay and conditions, and modernisation, can someone please calarify the situation for me!!

[breadandcheese]

Funnily enough I don't think the public ACTUALLY in any DETAIL know why the posties are striking. All you hear is pay and conditions, and modernisation, can someone please calarify the situation for me!!

Snap. I've seen countless reports on the news about this and neither side is actually spelling out what it wants. All we hear from both sides is we want to modernise and create a plan for modernisation, but the other side doesn't.

[davieG]

Snap. I've seen countless reports on the news about this and neither side is actually spelling out what it wants. All we hear from both sides is we want to modernise and create a plan for modernisation, but the other side doesn't.

Seems to sum up most political reporting pump out biased sound bites to suit the persuasion of the political/media source so the public doesn't understand and just takes it as read.

[breadandcheese]

How sad, surely workers have to have rights? This is the same firm that has seen 40,000 jobs dissapear whilst bosses pay themselves millions.

The post office workers have it hard though because there jobs effect everyone else I'm sure if it was some other job which didnt cause so much hassle for everyone they may have more support, but as usual the selfish attitude kicks in.

Workers do have rights. You have the right to move to a better job. You have the right to work in a safe environment. You have the right to take a company to tribunal for unfair dismissal, etc. You are selling your time to your employer.

A worker does not have the right to tell the employer how to run their business, how many people they should or should not employ, what plans the employer can or cannot make for the future.

[Zingari]

if the strike carries on , i'm going to have to go out buy some of those little red elastic bands that they kindly keep leaving on my doorstep

[AoWW]

if the strike carries on , i'm going to have to go out buy some of those little red elastic bands that they kindly keep leaving on my doorstep

Consider yourself lucky. My postbox is tucked round a corner near my garage door. My postie clearly sneaks round there to have a crafty fag, judging by the amount of cigarette butts, empty fag packets and crisp packets (the cigarette obviously gives him the munchies) that he leaves lying around. Filthy bastard - it really pisses me off. Tempted to gather them all together, wait till a day when he's left his van unattended, and empty them all over the driver's seat.

[Tilley]

Funnily enough I don't think the public ACTUALLY in any DETAIL know why the posties are striking. All you hear is pay and conditions, and modernisation, can someone please calarify the situation for me!!

I don't know either Dr, all I know is I am expecting about six parcels, one of which needs to be here by Monday. <_<

[Flynny]

Funnily enough I don't think the public ACTUALLY in any DETAIL know why the posties are striking. All you hear is pay and conditions, and modernisation, can someone please calarify the situation for me!!

As far as I'm aware, the Royal Mail, which has lost money 19 years out of the last 20, wants to bring in a machine that will speed things along and make things far more efficient. They're striking because the machine will cost jobs.

I sympathise for the individuals involved but this is a process that's been happening since Ned fooking Ludd, I think it's frankly selfish and outdated that unions should try to dictate who companies should and shouldn't employ.