Captain... Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 Cos it has the opposite effect. When has booing ever led to success at any club in the country? You pay your money and you take the risk of watching crap or watching excellent stuff. That's why it's a more enjoyable day if you surround yourself with people who can have a laugh and enjoy the day with. As mentioned before the infamous Sheff United game under MON the fans reaction that night helped in changing the fortunes of the team I honestly believe that. The situation was different it was a good side that had been resting on it's laurels for too long and was not coping well with the changes in management and playing staff. After a winless 2 months or so we had gone from top of the table to mid table and were playing utter garbage, it was an abysmal performance against an avergae Sheff United side. The reaction at the end of the game was phenomenal/horrendous in it's ferocity. I left after about 5 minutes of booing but I recall it carrying on for quite a while after the match had finished and talks were held with the fans. Am I the only one that remembers this? Am I the only one that believed this reaction had a massive impact on the team turning the season around? I do not advocate booing in general, and that situation was different to this one. Then we had underperforming good players that needed to be reminded why they play football . At the moment we have a poor - average team that has been playing above it's station since the start of the season and got us into a great position but we have played a couple of bad games were beaten by better sides and that is the nature of life in the championship. If we lose the next 3 or 4 matches then there might be cause for further concern but as it is, it is still only one bad week in the best 18 months for Leicester in a long time.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 People who call Martyn Waghorn for the tackle he did are Fools. You weren't calling him that when he scored against Coventry, Swansea, S****horpe. Etc.. Infact you were all hailing for him to be signed. It seems alot of armchair football fans are beginning to show their true colours. I'm not condoning the challenge, YES it was a bad tackle, but Martyn Waghorn has done us alot this season. Out of the whole of C2, I was the only one who arose to my feet, and clapped off Waghorn. I admire the bloke, and if some players would have put more effort in, then ask yourself, "Would he have been sent off?" or "Who is actually to blame." Some people are beginning to piss me off on this. Their support is appauling.
Guest Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 Those rights should be left not exercised because they are stupid. You wouldn't really do that, would you? Whoooooooooooooooooooosh If 'person a' pays money to watch the team and they are utter rubbish, then 'person a' can boo if they want to. And, whats it got to do with anyone else if 'person a' does boo? I have used this analogy to death, but it needs to be repeated. Your boss pays you money to work. You under-perform. Your boss can verbally rip you to pieces, in front of your colleagues and peers. Does this motivate you to up your performances? Or do you get angry or upset, and think "fook you, you willy puller"? And qualify it with any number of mitigating factors that explain why you are so crap at your job?
Guest Mee-9 Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 WhooooooooooooooooooooshI have used this analogy to death, but it needs to be repeated. Your boss pays you money to work. You under-perform. Your boss can verbally rip you to pieces, in front of your colleagues and peers. Does this motivate you to up your performances? Or do you get angry or upset, and think "fook you, you willy puller"? And qualify it with any number of mitigating factors that explain why you are so crap at your job? This
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 people often forget that it was booing that brought down the world trade center buildings
Daggers Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 If the players really are that mentally and emotionally fragile, then they should be in the Priory Clinic rather than a football pitch. Or threaten the booers with their legal team? Someone calls you a twat on a forum and you start firing off PMs threatening to shut the forum down - so climb off your high horse there, Tonto.
lou Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 Or threaten the booers with their legal team?Someone calls you a twat on a forum and you start firing off PMs threatening to shut the forum down - so climb off your high horse there, Tonto. WOW! I didnt know he was THAT powerful! :eek:
Daggers Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 WOW! I didnt know he was THAT powerful! :eek: 1824? months ago, during the most heated months of TPHgate.
lou Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 1824? months ago, during the most heated months of TPHgate. Im sorry I missed all that... wasnt born to FT then. Have got TPH on my facebook though seems a nice fella
lifted*fox Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 people often forget that it was booing that brought down the world trade center buildings I lol'd.
Legend_in_blue Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 BOOOOOO BOOOOOO BOOOOOO!!! To all the arguing going on in this thread! Can't everyone just get along?
lou Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 BOOOOOOBOOOOOO BOOOOOO!!! To all the arguing going on in this thread! Can't everyone just get along? Thats boring
dandannieldanok Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 Moron for a difference of opinion. Fair enough if you and others think it wasn't bad, but I'd like to see you up and running straight after a challenge like that. People who call Martyn Waghorn for the tackle he did are Fools. You weren't calling him that when he scored against Coventry, Swansea, S****horpe. Etc.. Infact you were all hailing for him to be signed. It seems alot of armchair football fans are beginning to show their true colours. I'm not condoning the challenge, YES it was a bad tackle, but Martyn Waghorn has done us alot this season. Out of the whole of C2, I was the only one who arose to my feet, and clapped off Waghorn. I admire the bloke, and if some players would have put more effort in, then ask yourself, "Would he have been sent off?" or "Who is actually to blame." Some people are beginning to piss me off on this. Their support is appauling. Yes the bloke has played really well for us, but why should that cloud the fact that it was an appalling challenge? People don't just forgive and forget Roy Keane's tackle on Haaland because he was an excellent player, so why should Waghorn be any different? After all, not only was the challenge disgraceful, it now means we'll be without him for 3 games. No good has come from it at all.
Fox92 Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 A lot, because 'Person A' is exactly the type of person that makes going to the Walkers feel like a chore. Good job I am not 'person A' then. Cos it has the opposite effect. When has booing ever led to success at any club in the country? You pay your money and you take the risk of watching crap or watching excellent stuff. That's why it's a more enjoyable day if you surround yourself with people who can have a laugh and enjoy the day with. I remember Chelsea booing and shouting to Avram Grant, 'you don't know what you are doing' when he brought a player on and then that player went a scored two goals to make it 2-1 against Arsenal. Your boss pays you money to work. You under-perform. Your boss can verbally rip you to pieces, in front of your colleagues and peers. Does this motivate you to up your performances? Or do you get angry or upset, and think "fook you, you willy puller"? And qualify it with any number of mitigating factors that explain why you are so crap at your job? I suppose that is quite a good statement.
CosbehFox Posted 11 December 2009 Posted 11 December 2009 Fair enough if you and others think it wasn't bad, but I'd like to see you up and running straight after a challenge like that. Firstly I thought it was a daft challenge but plenty of similar tackles see yellow. And the player who he fouled, played for another five minutes and even kicked the ball after chasing after it. They then brought him off for precaution because they could afford to at the time.
Captain... Posted 12 December 2009 Posted 12 December 2009 I have used this analogy to death, but it needs to be repeated.Your boss pays you money to work. You under-perform. Your boss can verbally rip you to pieces, in front of your colleagues and peers. Does this motivate you to up your performances? Or do you get angry or upset, and think "fook you, you willy puller"? And qualify it with any number of mitigating factors that explain why you are so crap at your job? Erm... yes. It does both. In my jobs I have had constructive criticsm which helped me to improve, I have also been ripped to pieces in front of my colleagues which motivated me to never let it happen again. I also gave my boss an earful when we were in private because it shouldn't have been done in fron of others but that is not the point. It was a kick up the arse I needed because I had become cocky and lazy in my job. After working it out we continued to have a good working relationship and I stopped taking liberties and worked harder and better. I have also been ignored in my job and recieved very little feedback positive or negative, I got bored and lazy and took the piss for weeks and no-one said anything, I turned up late went home early and had about 20 sick days in 8 months. I ended up quitting after being there less than a year for my own sanity, things might have been different if I had been given a much deserved kick up the arse. That was me, I am different to some people on here, I am not going to cry at a bit of criticism, if it is deserved then I learn from it, and if it is not deserved then I work hard just to prove someone wrong.
Legend_in_blue Posted 12 December 2009 Posted 12 December 2009 30 minutes in and the first boo will sound. Take your stopwatches people.
Guest Posted 13 December 2009 Posted 13 December 2009 Erm... yes.It does both. In my jobs I have had constructive criticsm which helped me to improve, I have also been ripped to pieces in front of my colleagues which motivated me to never let it happen again. I also gave my boss an earful when we were in private because it shouldn't have been done in fron of others but that is not the point. It was a kick up the arse I needed because I had become cocky and lazy in my job. After working it out we continued to have a good working relationship and I stopped taking liberties and worked harder and better. I have also been ignored in my job and recieved very little feedback positive or negative, I got bored and lazy and took the piss for weeks and no-one said anything, I turned up late went home early and had about 20 sick days in 8 months. I ended up quitting after being there less than a year for my own sanity, things might have been different if I had been given a much deserved kick up the arse. That was me, I am different to some people on here, I am not going to cry at a bit of criticism, if it is deserved then I learn from it, and if it is not deserved then I work hard just to prove someone wrong. Really? I was in a job where my boss constantly had a go at me in front of other colleagues, and it did not ever once inspire or motivate me. Not even in the slightest. It made me leave in the end. Besides, it is very poor form to treat employees in that way. It shows a complete lack of interpersonal skills, and a lack of respect for others for a start. But like you say, different people....
davieG Posted 13 December 2009 Posted 13 December 2009 Erm... yes.It does both. In my jobs I have had constructive criticsm which helped me to improve, I have also been ripped to pieces in front of my colleagues which motivated me to never let it happen again. I also gave my boss an earful when we were in private because it shouldn't have been done in fron of others but that is not the point. It was a kick up the arse I needed because I had become cocky and lazy in my job. After working it out we continued to have a good working relationship and I stopped taking liberties and worked harder and better. I have also been ignored in my job and recieved very little feedback positive or negative, I got bored and lazy and took the piss for weeks and no-one said anything, I turned up late went home early and had about 20 sick days in 8 months. I ended up quitting after being there less than a year for my own sanity, things might have been different if I had been given a much deserved kick up the arse. That was me, I am different to some people on here, I am not going to cry at a bit of criticism, if it is deserved then I learn from it, and if it is not deserved then I work hard just to prove someone wrong. Did your companies customers come in and boo you? I'm sure Pearson has dished out some harsh words in his time here and probably in front of the other players not quite the same as customers doing it. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't I just don't think in the majority of cases it works with footballers and could well have a negative effect on some. But people can do want they want
Captain... Posted 13 December 2009 Posted 13 December 2009 Did your companies customers come in and boo you?I'm sure Pearson has dished out some harsh words in his time here and probably in front of the other players not quite the same as customers doing it. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't I just don't think in the majority of cases it works with footballers and could well have a negative effect on some. But people can do want they want I've had customers phone me up and give me an earful, they didn't actually boo down the phone although they might as well have done, often with good reason. If it was a customer that we had let down badly then we would do everything to right the situation as soon as possible. The company I was workng for at the time had problems so we had a lot of complaints and to be honest it was often the customers that got angry with us that got sorted out faster than the understanding nice rational customers. The company was shit so we knew we were at fault and whilst it wasn't my fault personally I had to deal with it. If the customers hadn't complained so much we would never have realised what shit service we had given them I didn't know a delivery hadn't arrived until they phoned up telling me, if they didn't complain then we couldn't do anything about it. It was not nice getting abuse on the phone on a daily basis but it was the company's own fault for being shit and letting down its customers. Without the customers there wouldn't have been a company, without fans there is no club. The difference is that football club knows when it has let down the fans because it is there for everyone to see. 5-1. They let down the fans, the club and the city and a lack of positive reaction against Bristol was also a let down (not necessarily the result we are going to lose against teams worse than Birstol this season, I'm sure, it's the nature of this league). Having said that overall this season has been fantastic and to boo one bad week in a great 18 months is very poor, we got the reaction we were looking for yesterday and hopefully it will continue.
Webbo Posted 13 December 2009 Posted 13 December 2009 Gary Lineker. Only slightly on topic but an interesting read.
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